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Re: boston745 post# 36502

Wednesday, 12/09/2020 5:12:11 PM

Wednesday, December 09, 2020 5:12:11 PM

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good you tube vid on Tesla value... Prof at NYU Stern Biz school... on CNBC all the time... very worthwhile debate on how one could value Tesla... very impressed with analysis..



He basically has model that every institutional buyers/hedge funds typically use in some form or fashion...

The prof sold in jan at $128 ($640 pre split).... missed runup but point of matter is this is how many big players look at value... my guess is made profit and moved on .... other methods to value for sure... now you know how JP Morgan is not crazy... just dif opinion... Tesla was $70 a year ago...

Now that Tesla will be in S&P... there will be more scrutiny and will be compared to peers...

Look at the top ten companies... contrast and compare... multiples of cash flow and operating and profit margins are important.... any particular company stick out ... one can even compare to auto manuf and the comparisons stuck out even more

https://finviz.com/screener.ashx?v=121&f=cap_largeover&o=-marketcap

I just got into Tesla a few weeks ago after seeing all the articles on bubble... many compared to tech bubble.... I agree and was there.... the advent of on-line trading... tech stocks and early internet... anybody remember how slow the sucker was ... w.w.w was world wide wait... and vampire squid GS was a big player as well with crazy ipo's and laddering... now it's skimming with the likes of robinhood et al

After a few weeks of research into ev's markets etc, I concluded de ja vu all over again... a new wave of "innovation"... some companies will win and some will lose and same with investors... only easier to create bubble this time... fractional shares bought on smart phones like a video game... and frictionless trading as in no commission (WS is taking a parasitic ride w/ front running folks, clipping your hard earned margin cash)

I watched interviews of several professional investors (shorters) that basically said that Tesla is like a cult following that Elon has been able to create...Chanos, Eisman ... great economic minds imo... another observation is that the size of CEO compensation is tied to size of market cap... maybe quality control should be a metric for comp given the following events could or have occurred and will impact margins and cash flows... I watched several vids on mad customers regarding service and what appears a big fight with customers on who pays for repairs... not a good strategy when many competitors getting into market... and my guess is goal of profit/max share price at expense of customer satisfaction/quality control...

Potential NHTSA 115k Faulty Suspension (FS) ..
China recall 30k FS
Recently filed California Class Action FS
Model S and X display potential recall
VW id.3 storming EU and gaining market share

Good things can happen as well... increased sales etc...

This could get a lot worse so do your homework... On the 18th, Tesla goes into the big boy arena and the laws and judges of economic gravity will come into play...

Just don't assume it's going to $780 because some vampire squid analyst (that probably will get a big bonus for helping a client sell some expensive shares) says so and you want it to go there... and I don't care whether you buy on the dips etc... just don't be a dipshit about it...

Do your own homework cause I guarantee you there are hundreds of institutions with thousands of MBA types working overtime on this beast called Tesla... all imo




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