If you saying convertible debt, and if it is correct
Then you need to look at NEWLF where Bertsos was CFO
The convertible debt was used to trade shares off-market. This is discussed in the SEC complaint against certain individuals where NEWLF debt was converted into shares and selling into the open market - flooding the market
This makes sense
More than likely, this is probably how Bertsos is paying his $1.5 million salary and other expenses
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