Yes, Carter & Mishcon BRILLIANT. Me too! (vs. 13). > "suit is against the 13" :-) After all, they are the direct infringers, even though ARRS, COMM, CSCO, stole CBV, Inc.'s technology. Plus, those without indemnification, will NOT want to go to trial--if "Like" any of them would. I remember you writing about "The prisoner's dilemma". COMM better hurry and step it up and buy patents to save clients or it may look like NETGEAR, here we (the 13 that is) come. My thoughts are secret negotiations have well been underway and contracts being cemented with COMM (ARRS), CSCO, the 13 and ChanBond. Just takes a long time to formalize agreements to insure COMM can keep biggest customers.