Additionally, we know we (us) have 400M-500M+ shares. Just counting our shares (The boards), we know we have 400-500M+ shares. Plus, over 100M+ are with accredited investors (which includes Deirdre's 44.7M) that we know of. > I/O == 1,614,601,069 shares > Float == 663,868,192 > Carter = 950,732,877 (estimate) Here's your figure in last disclosure (with the SEC filing at bottom). https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=143756796 If not mistaken, 3-4 of the board have 30M+ shares, so no way still 1.012B. Also, once again, spoke with Rich. http://www.oldemonmouth.com/contact.html Lastly, called both Schwab and TDA to confirm I have shares when much misinformation was going around. They confirmed, "Yes, you do and they are real". Finally, Olde Monmouth updated their system or process to be able to report to us in a timely manner if there were any changes or increases. And nothing had changed since 5/1/18 (or before). Same figure. Anyway, that's my understanding, Scruffer P.S. If want to change your guess based on shares out, not a problem.