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Friday, 03/08/2019 6:10:07 PM

Friday, March 08, 2019 6:10:07 PM

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Raf - Apples! or well, some species of our domestically grown foods seem to be on the mind of Scott Gottlieb today, too.

Frans de Waal, a Phd in primate Zoology - has a short TED video on his fairness studies in primates (his books are even better): www.ted.com/talks/frans_de_waal_do_animals_have_morals?language=en

Your apple example is a good one and it fits with the spirit of "cooperation" and or fairness that appears consistently across the animal world. Wash State produces close to 60% of our nation's apples. None of it would have been or continue to be possible without government developed irrigation and subsidies from tributaries of the Columbia River (an apple orchard needs 3 1/2 acre feet of water for a given growing season!!). The irrigation systems were originally built and maintained along with the dams by the US Bureau of Reclamation and the US Army Corps of Engineers. Now, extension agencies at universities like Wash State Univ in Pullman, WA help to further the horticultural knowledge necessary to yield more with less water for farmers due to lots of competing interests for the same water and water levels (outdoor recreation, NEPA, tribal rights). The US Dept of Agriculture (and APHIS), EPA, FDA, Bureau of Indian Affairs and Interior departments help coordinate (or hinder ;-D) efforts across all agricultural sectors to bring apples to market. I'm not even going to list the WA State or county agencies. An excellent introduction to the subject of dams and water policy in the Western US is a book entitled Cadillac Desert. It reads like a noire political thriller. The Hollywood version of some of California's water disputes back in the 70's was Chinatown.



If we didn't have laws and institutions powered as they currently are there would be no apples or at least any that you would trust to crunch into except if grown locally in NC by those in your social network or neighbors although they might be polluting your adjacent property with too much fertilizer and pesticide run-off or stealing your water and where would you turn to enforce your property rights in a peaceful sort of way? Government courts...

The apples we crunch into - exist because of a multi-partner dance between farmers, government, co-ops and universities. We all partially subsidize our apple growers, FWIW.
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