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Re: rekcusdo post# 445512

Friday, 01/12/2018 7:52:51 PM

Friday, January 12, 2018 7:52:51 PM

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rekcusdo I guess they should have called it "The Bill of Protections, Limitations or Interpretations" rather than "The Bill of Rights". lol.

If you don't believe that the Constitution clearly lays out what our rights are, then I don't know what else I could possibly tell you.

And I'm curious where, exactly, you believe our rights come from then?


My rights don't come from laws! No government gave them to me. I was born with them as they were endowed by my creator.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are (1) endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That (2) to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, (3) deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.

And if you're not a person of faith - then you can say they are natural rights. To put it another way:

Natural and legal rights are two types of rights. Natural rights are those that are not dependent on the laws or customs of any particular culture or government, and so are universal and inalienable (they cannot repealed or restrained by human laws). Legal rights are those bestowed onto a person by a given legal system (they can be modified, repealed, and restrained by human laws).....

....The idea that certain rights are natural or inalienable also has a history dating back at least to the Stoics of late Antiquity and Catholic law of the early Middle Ages, and descending through the Protestant Reformation and the Age of Enlightenment to today.

The existence of natural rights has been asserted by different individuals on different premises, such as a priori philosophical reasoning or religious principles. For example, Immanuel Kant claimed to derive natural rights through reason alone. The United States Declaration of Independence, meanwhile, is based upon the "self-evident" truth that "all men are … endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_and_legal_rights

And thus, The Bill of Rights didn't GIVE us our rights. The Bill of Rights was written and added to the Constitution to protect individual liberty - to put limits on government power.

From the link below: The Bill of Rights is a list of limits on government power. For example, what the Founders saw as the natural right of individuals to speak and worship freely was protected by the First Amendment’s prohibitions on Congress from making laws establishing a religion or abridging freedom of speech. For another example, the natural right to be free from unreasonable government intrusion in one’s home was safeguarded by the Fourth Amendment’s warrant requirements.

http://www.billofrightsinstitute.org/founding-documents/bill-of-rights/