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Re: iwfal post# 115718

Sunday, 10/08/2017 12:06:57 AM

Sunday, October 08, 2017 12:06:57 AM

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OK..iwfal...

Gotcha..Interesting...I have not seen those figures probably beccause I did click on that screen...All cause mortality...control arm 265 active arm 286.

Interesting...but not meaningful..And this is the reason its not meaningful..and it is a reiteration of what I said before...

There were a total of 551 deaths in JELIS which was designed as a CVOT trial..but something was pretty strange about the trial. That being there were only 60 deaths directly related to heart disease...35 in the so called sudden coronary death and 25 from Fatal MIs...

You understand of course that CVD is accounting for just over 13% of the deaths in this trial...Looking at stroke we get pretty much a wash helps ischemic strokes hurts hemorrhagic stroke (the guys on anticoags). So what's killing off the the remaining 85%...Maybe all those late nights with the SAKI bottle in all that cigarette smoke...Maybe a bad meal at the FUGU restaurant..we do know gastric carcinoma is a big deal (bigger than CVD???) and maybe EPA doesn't work too well on GC. This is the same kind of thing you might see in a trial for acne cream...if you were foolish enough to be rating the study on "All cause mortality"..This wont translate over to R-I where CVD deaths are going to be way north of 13%...

Nice try though...

?>) JL
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