Ramsey - Aristotle said that the strength of democracy is that many heads can work together in a cumulative (and compounding) exercise of intelligence. I think that many of us here operate with that spirit in mind and the results are beneficial for all participants. Of course, he did say that democracy can also result in very dubious agendas gaining sway over the majority. We've also seen plenty of that, but quite frankly disregarding such attempts is the best way to make sure they gain no traction... Wave and its products are definitely coming into the real world and I was heartened to hear yesterday that there has been a win with the govt. - this is very real leverage that they can take to prospective customers and gain other wins (and there will be an exponential growth from there). The growing buzz around TNC and federated identity is also encouraging and it's very nice to see Wave launching products into this swell, an effort that will bear much fruit I believe. More OEMs to be announced this autumn (as per Wildman's post on the other board)- it all looks pretty good from my vantage point. Regards, Foam
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