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Re: Bill_ENG post# 23842

Wednesday, 07/26/2017 1:25:30 PM

Wednesday, July 26, 2017 1:25:30 PM

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Not jumping on any bandwagon... the NEAH / BASF electrolyte (formic acid?) was mentioned in the video that was taken off line... with the Terra factory...

Not many players in the Terra factory game.. and Malta seem to be a possible prototype production location....

Applied Materials will admit that their solid electrolyte is not yet as conductive as liquid equivalents, and therefore limits power output. The firm would also like to increase the speed with which their tools can deposit “energy-storing materials” faster, to produce thicker layers that store more energy.

http://cafe.foundation/blog/2x-solid-state-batteries/

2X Solid State Batteries?
by DEAN SIGLER on 08/16/2014
Applied Materials, located in Sunnyvale, California, designs and makes equipment used in the manufacture of computer chips and other miniature electronic devices. Your editor worked there on assignment from his engineering firm for six months 15 years ago, documenting and verifying the equipment and control systems for their newest facility. Even then, miniature was wild understatement, with the company crafting machinery that could produce 0.18 µm lines in silicon chips. In the last two decades, line widths have shrunk to 0.03 µm, and the number of elements on chips has increased proportionally. This makes nano manufacturing a highly precise endeavor, and one which seems to defy credulity with lower costs for the ever-increasing number of chips being made.

Toyota's chart showing promise of solid-state battery as interim device between current Li-ion and Li-Air batteries
Toyota’s chart showing promise of solid-state battery as interim device between current Li-ion and Li-Air batteries
It’s this type of manufacturing expertise which makes possible the electronic life we lead today and one that relies increasingly on energy storage technology. The very things that make solid state computing possible could produce solid state batteries – an advantageous storage medium – if they can be produced in commercially viable quantities at a reasonable cost. MIT Technolology Reports quotes an Applied Materials scientist on this challenge. “’The thing that’s holding [solid-state batteries] back is materials processing and the cost,’ says Andy Chu, head of product marketing for energy storage solutions at Applied Materials. ‘We’re addressing these problems. That will allow you to take this to high volume.’

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