Here's an idea: let's say four or five years ago, the smartest, most tech savvy people on this board had the solar powered REDBIRD. And that each of us had outside jobs so we could each contribute to our company...as a start up. Like many, many startup companies begin. We hustled some sales...borrowed against those sales from a bank and produced more RedBirds. Here it is, five years later...where would our business be now? Making money....providing a much needed utility and growing. Or dead broke, no sales, no contracts and in debt. Couldn't do any worse than these clowns running CDNL.