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Re: Huggy Bear post# 15953

Monday, 11/21/2016 9:03:16 PM

Monday, November 21, 2016 9:03:16 PM

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Helps to read the whole post .. ( Lets keep in mind these reviews are over a YEAR OLD )

You want to know why we can't have nice things? This is why we can't have nice things. I'm kind of re-thinking my idea to release something to the cannabis market because the second one thing goes wrong it's SCAM. SCAM. HAS TO BE A SCAM. How many people calling it a Scam have worked in an actual lab or dealt with the problems of a new product to market from an engineering standpoint?
There's plenty out there on how the technology including this patent of a similar device: [a] sensor array comprises at least two sorption-based sensors which are members selected from the group consisting of a chemiresistors, a conducting/nonconducting regions sensor, a SAW sensor, a metal oxide gas sensor, a bulk conducting polymer sensor, a Langmuir-Blodgett film sensor, and combinations thereof.
Next Dimension Technologies
Would lead you here from google. You can clearly see their personnel and if you search them you'll find:
In 2004, Dr. Royea led the formation of Next Dimension Technologies, Inc., a Caltech start-up company that develops chemical vapor detection systems. As president of Next Dimension Technologies, he manages technology and product development for clinical diagnostic, industrial manufacturing, and military and homeland security applications..
The company has also received money from Bill Gates to detect TB: A device called an Electronic Nose that can detect tuberculosis in the breath of a patient, has received a $950,000 grant from Grand Challenges Canada and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. The funding will support further development and testing of the technology, developed by the International Centre for Genetic Engineering and Biotechnology (ICGEB) in New Delhi and Next Dimension Technologies in Pasadena, California., a TB Breathalyzer
So if they are scam artists they managed to also trick the Gates Foundation into supporting their efforts for a 'nose' to detect tuberculosis.
Dr William J. Royea has a few patents. If you'll notice the original assignee is CalTech. Which means that "Next Dimension Technologies" is likely just an incubator company with CalTech owning most of the IP. (Which is how it usually works in higher education). Start clicking through all of his and his co-inventor's inventions and you'll have a pretty clear idea on how it works. [Be warned, Patent legalese is even dryer than normal legalese. I barely recognized something I designed by time the lawyers go through with it].
If you'll click through to some of his co-inventors and the patents they have they have stuff in their name including:
Electronic techniques for analyte detection: An analyte (1810) is sensed by sensors (1820) that output electrical signals in response to the analyte. The electrical signals are preprocessed (1830) by filtering and amplification. In an embodiment, this preprocessing includes adapting the sensor and electronics to the environment in which the analyte exists. The electrical signals are further processed (1840) to classify and identify the analyte, which may be by a neural network.
Also Evaluating accuracy of electronic nose; fragrance and perfume development (And this is from <1998)
This one looks very interesting: Sensors and sensor arrays of conducting and insulating composites and methods of use thereof . The present invention provides a class of sensors [1-16] prepared from at least a first material having a positive temperature coefficient of resistance and a second non-conductive or insulating material compositionally different than the first material that show an increased sensitivity detection limit for polar and non-polar analytes.
[They're also hiring]. Are you sufficiently satisfied at this time that "Next Dimension Technologies" at least exists and has the technology for electronic 'noses'? And that's what I've found in ~10 minutes.
Lets dig into CDX Life (the company releasing this):
CEO, Daniel R. Yazbeck.. Worked at Panasonic & Pfizer. And went to McGill where he got Master’s Degree in Medicinal Chemistry. And he's published:
Challenges in the development of an efficient enzymatic process in the pharmaceutical industry
Automated Enzyme Screening Methods for the Preparation of Enantiopure Pharmaceutical Intermediates
A metal ion-based method for the screening of nitrilases
Enzymatic Process for the Synthesis of cis/trans-(1R,5R)-Bicyclo[3.2.0]hept- 6-ylidene-acetate: Solvent Effect and NMR Study
(I can go on, but I think you get the picture, he likely knows what he's doing).
SeonYoung (S.Y.) Kim, Product Manager
Brenton Montgomery
Then there are the 'soft skill' people:
Jeff Jones, Sales Manager
Skip Sanzeri, president
Jeffrey Landstrom, Marketing & Communications
Nick Hadler, Social Media Director
The whole things smells exactly like a startup company and nothing more. I've yet to find scammers that fake their way into peer reviewed articles just so they can set up a half dozen fake LinkedIn account. And if it is a scam they even went as far as to make up a person that used to work thsere and then left.
Have you actually tested the product?
No, and I put why in my review. I don't have an Android or iOS device, I was hoping to use this as a bench analyzer and they don't have the Windows UI done yet. I'm sure their customer support line has enough random idiots that don't know how to use the product. Even their Google Store app has a clear line "Do not review this, this is a beta test only". So of course people reviewed it.
Is there any instructions on how to prepare samples and how to measure the amount that goes in the sample chamber?
Honestly, the only thing I can fault them with is releasing something:
Through Crowdfunding. Crowdfunding attracts the idiots. They fund stuff that is a clear scam (Solar Roadways) and then cry "Scam" at every piece of advanced technology. They should have done a beta with people that could be confirmed as not idiots.
To the cannabis industry. There are multiple people (like you) screaming "scam" without any legitimate reason to. I'm sorry but most people are idiots and have never done product design nor released a product. This is a beta. I wouldn't be surprised if it was +-5%. I've spent a year of work on stuff much, much more benign things. (Design of a component on a single system, but that's what happens at big companies).
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