$TPAC .05+ may even be a tad conservative. He needs the PPS at .25 just to pay off one of the co-founders on the management team for the $260k factory start-up capitol; and for those that think $260k is a lot, we've already retired more than that in shares($260,000/.002pps = 130,000,000 shares(priced with pps on the high side) and $260,000/.0008pps = 325,000,000 shares(priced with pps on the low side). To date, we've retired 900M O/S. 900M more O/S to be retired as part of 1.8B O/S retirement program. Now, add in all of the other stuff, present and future.