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Re: north40000 post# 10885

Tuesday, 10/06/2015 10:37:32 AM

Tuesday, October 06, 2015 10:37:32 AM

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Wind & solar serve a different market than oil. The former serves fixed point consumption (e.g. your family's farm appliances) vs transportation. Those folks who think they are gaining efficiency and being 'green' thru electric vehicles are people who don't understand thermodynamics and battery manufacturing. If you've ever seen a solar panel plant or start to consider what's involved in panel manufacturing, then you might also recognize that the comment applies there as well. Most folks who have a NIMBY attitude about oil refineries would be petrified by what's involved in solar panel plant.

As for Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Germany, and the US: the wind and solar farms you describe would probably not exist if it were not for the heavy taxation on carbon fuels and surcharges on the consumers' electric bills.

There are places and circumstances where wind and solar make sense, but in a market free of government interference, carbon would win. Of course, some will argue about climate change consequence. I used to work in that business so I'm very familiar with the intellectual dishonesty and hypocracy in the community. All you have to do is listen to a Nancy Pelosi speech on the topic. A former DOE exec once summed it up for me: "one can only go to so many wine and cheese gatherings on this topic..."

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