....and if the product really does suck after all, which some folks on these boards have basically stated before, then rather than SKS being a bad CEO and salesman, it would mean that he was actually a brilliant CEO and salesman to be able to sell, what turned out to be junk, to several mega-billion dollar outfits, before they found out. Maybe Solms right now, is marveling at what SKS accomplished, and realizing he can't match that performance. In fact, maybe Solms is secretly negotiating with SKS to have Rivetz acquire Wave.