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Thursday, 03/12/2015 12:19:20 PM

Thursday, March 12, 2015 12:19:20 PM

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It looks like Steipp is right. 2015 is too early. We are looking at 2016 to 2017 before we get any serious action.

Time to re-read some historical forecasts for Liquidmetal made by Atakan Peker:

http://www.businessinsider.com/liquidmetal-inventor-atakan-peker-apple-will-use-it-in-a-breakthrough-product-2012-5

May 2, 2012

How long did it take to perfect Liquidmetal?

1) I would not say Liquidmetal was perfected. This is a technology that has yet to be matured and perfected both in manufacturing process and application development. I should note that this is a completely new and different metal technology. Therefore, there is no suitable manufacturing infrastructure yet to take full advantage of this alloy technology.

For example, I estimate that Apple will likely spend on the order of $300 million to $500 million -- and three to five years (May 2, 2015 to May 2, 2017)-- to mature the technology before it can used in large scale.

Do you know of any other electronic companies that have the rights to use Liquidmetal? If so, how are they using it or how do you think they will use it?

There were electronic companies who used Liquidmetal in the past. Two notable examples are Nokia and Samsung flip phones.

There is still interest from various electronic companies to use Liquidmetal in electronic devices. Although Apple has exclusively licensed Liquidmetal’s technology, I think they will find a way to use this technology as it gets mature.

Is there anything else relating to mobile gadgets and Liquidmetal that you think people should know about?

I expect Liquidmetal application in two ways: First evolutionary substitution of current materials and secondly, and more importantly, in a breakthrough product made only possible by Liquidmetal technology. Apple’s exclusively licensing a new material technology (specifically for casing and enclosures) is a first in the industry.

This is very exciting. Therefore, I expect Apple to use this technology in a breakthrough product. Such product will likely bring an innovative user interface and industrial design together, and will also be very difficult to copy or duplicate with other material technologies.

In my opinion, Apple has not yet produced a breakthrough product. It has only followed the market of what already was (Samsung watches)

I still maintain that the breakthrough product will be what was Apple's first patent with Liquidmetal: USAGE as a COMPONENT in a STORAGE BATTERY.

I was the first on this board to explain this reasoning. And it seems that this will be the breakthrough product.

I would imagine that a lot of this work could be ongoing in the Arizona plant. But I doubt we see anything before the year 2017.

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