zamouri10 if you look at the links you posted the dates doesn't correspond to what your saying. From: Ian I. Noble iannoble_mg@sparcs.com Date: Sep 28, 2005 1:36 PM Subject: Attention All Penny St0ck Players Crescende International Trading Began just one month ago. <A HREF="http://rjohara.net/money/stocks/2005-09-28-CDIT.PK-crescende-international.html" target="_blank">http://rjohara.net/money/stocks/2005-09-28-CDIT.PK-crescende-international.html</A> That would of made CDIT start trading in Aug of 2005 The other link you posted stated that the spam went out on 03.10.2005 <A HREF="http://www.raingod.com/angus/Computing/Internet/Spam/Stocks/Stocks.php?limit=0" target="_blank">http://www.raingod.com/angus/Computing/Internet/Spam/Stocks/Stocks.php?limit=0</A> That would be 5 months before CDIT started trading. So which one is right? You posted it so you figure out the math for us. GLTY Ammobox