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You make a valid argument .
1.173 million volume.
$300k
Excitement brewing......picture analysis ongoing.
How about some news Zion? Shares are just not leaving as they should with what we think we know. This is low volume on a stock that could pop or crash.
Odd
I know they do as well. All of them. It's what they do with information they get from them that counts.
That's funny. They monitor the boards.
Even the Hoo, which is a riot at the moment. Shorty's playing against each other.
Production tanks, yeah that would be a hoot.
Yes that is strange indeed. I am not sure what to say.
Thank you - Navy but was not near a combat zone but during the height of the Cold War. I have many friends that served in Desert Storm, and Afghanistan and Iraq II...
Today is to honor those whom did not make it home. They gave all.
I just wish our government would recognize the sacrifices made.
I would give that one the 72 hour rule. I will remain skeptical until verification can be said. Right now it is nothing more than hearsay.
Tempting but I do not know what it would do. We would have a video true and we have the folks that could interpret the video but in the grand scheme, the data is what counts.
Although forcing Zion Oil to inform the shareholders has it's benefits as well.
To those that have served, to those that have fallen, to those injured......
Thank you.
Ah good,
RECORD DATE FOR STOCKHOLDERS ENTITLED TO VOTE
April 11, 2022
I have added many more since then but all I had then have voted.
You are right there are 2 whales, but one we know, a single person.
We do not know the 2nd...
I tell you what, if the whale has not voted his shares then we have a problem.
I am not sure if he owns a majority, I am sure he does not as we would have seen that filing by now. He is the largest single shareholder by far however. I wonder for what reason he would not have voted.
Let's assume he did, he watch's Zion closely, this we do know, unless it is a tax write off which is possible.
What other reasons for the blitz to get votes cast? This was my first time voting but only because Ameritrade made it real easy.
I have had two calls over the last 30 days and I left a message. I have yet to get a call back, which worries me as I always did. Then again, I am a ball of fire when I am on the phone so maybe they just do not want to deal with me right now. That is a good sign I think.
Face it, if MJ2 is dry, the company is done as we know it. Sure it will continue but as a private entity. So let's suppose someone knows they have a discovery and are trying to position a takeover? Is this possible? Yes. Is it likely? No.
So we all know something is up, we just do not know what. Politics aside, one can feel it in the air and the trading. Think about it, the market knows at what stage Zion is with this well, and there is just no volume. That puzzles me and I like to think that the shareholders are holding and not selling.
A wildcat company at this stage should be very volatile and its not. That makes me wonder. I think that is a good sign as well. MJ1 was nuts around this time, remember?
Good Summary on what we know, but let's not count the chickens before they hatch.
I believe the odds are in our favor for just the reasons you post.
I also thought MJ1 was a discovery as well, so I have been wrong before.
Guys, just another quick thought, although I can not prove it but I was told that fracking was not considered via Israeli law back in 2018. I my searches on what oil was found onshore and where this came up. I asked and was told the law did not allow it.
That being said, Givot had to 'work' their patch in the years before, but conventional fracking as we understand it from the Permian.
Yes this was a while back, but I have not read why fracking in any form would be allowed onshore of Israel. I think it had something to do with Genie/Afek claiming non-commercial but that is my opinion.
I just think we need to concentrate on conventional, at least I am at this point until I hear differently.
Well I added a few today, 2nd to last trade. Last trade was for 200 shares but it raised the price some. Thing is if a MM wanted to bang it down, there were no shares offered to do so. Learning how this works.
Todays Volume 1.39+ million. $350k.
Someone had posted the short interest has dropped significantly this month. So I guess shorty is not ready to take it in the shorts just yet.
Don't care who you are that is funny!
yet true as for Zion.
Tisdal,
You are right and maybe I am more forgiving of it. I however remember MJ1 very well. I documented it as best I could somewhere else. iHub showed what I needed to know. I personally was attacked and continue to be, less so here now. I am public with my name and such, so I have a vested interest in how this ends up.
I did not invest my life savings, far from it. I has lost more in the last 6 weeks in my 401k that I have with Zion. Yet, I am still here.
I will give credit where it is due and iHub does allow me to post again, yet I can not post what is on my mind. I am ok with it.
As for Zion and their 'tight lipped' interaction with the world. I get it.
The thing that happened was very well orchestrated, and had money backing. Yet because of the whale(s) we are here. My investment played little part in it, theirs a massive one. What drove them to do it? I assume the same thing that pissed me off so bad. I am angry that the defamation has not been addressed. We did not nor do we have the funds to get restitution so I leave that is His hands. I just move forward to the goal and hope I can to celebrate a victory.
There is a battle between good and evil right now that is immense and coming to a head. Zion Oil plays but a minor part in what we will see happen in the next 6-12 months. The Cabal is at play, we are but pawns.
I sleep because I know whom is in charge, and whom the ultimate winner is. It is already won. This is but a distraction but one that I have latched onto.
So in that regard, I am not angry with Zion. Disappointed would be the better word. Yet, I do realize I know not the full picture.
I do believe they have oil, commercial oil. Its the quantity that I wonder. I do not want a partner in this. I want Zion to have their license and become the company that Israel trusts to develop other fields as well. The Meged comes to mind, its there.
I do not dream of 10's of billions of barrels. I only want that mission statement to be completed. It troubles me when I realize that Israel is secular, so Zion walks a tight rope there. We have no idea how hard it is to be a Christian living there let alone a company operating there.
To Him be all Glory!
Kudos Sir.
I do not expect good answers to most.
No matter, we await news, the big question, all else is small.
Agreed.
I will ask one.
What effect did the whales have on Zion's responsibility to report finding to the regular shareholders? By this I mean, if you know someone was going to provide $30 million dollars to pursue MJ2, did that make informing the other shareholders less important?
I think I have an idea on why they say almost nothing. The noise. They do not need the distraction or BS lawsuits that would be coming if they did say something that did not pan out.
I am pretty sure there are anti-whales at play. So to the good whales, I say thank you. Sure I am pissed off I know nothing, but I guess I get it.
When this is over, there is of course much more to the story.
To this day I can not stand the financial times of London.
Great questions!
I think I can answer one.
We all would.
I tell you one thing, they better be able to answer why the silence at the meeting.
If its a bologna reason, they are probably done.
I still think geopolitics is playing a role of some sort (If there is oil), if no oil then they are just being deceitful. I do not think they are How do I know? The noise.
They said they would ignore it and they have and here we are.
I would be ok with that I think.
I am not a fan of the DSPP either but it was a method that one could easily do month to month.
I am not sure why the Whales did not just buy stock directly. There are things we do not know. Dilution of share value happened, fact.
Zion Oil is being very quiet, Fact.
Yet, here we are, on the cusp of something that could be magnificent or heart wrenching. We just do not know for sure. I lean toward oil but I am biased.
I do not see 50 Billion Barrels, $100 share price at all.
I think we find oil, in a conservative amount, that is commercial. Its a numbers game and until we know for sure its moot.
I do however think the share price will shoot up, then follow back to a reasonable value.
John Brown and Zion Oil tried for years now, $225 million spent. It just was not his time, nor Zion oil's time.
It is in the Father's hands at this point.
I will have to think about it. We KNOW why they are doing it. They can ignore the noise and keep trying to find oil.
I have not nor would I participate in the DSPP.
I have bought my shares on the open market. I did not want to deal with getting them out and paying the fees.
For the Whale, I guess it doesn't matter much. Yes, it diluted the shares. I have bought more and diluted my cost.
I think we need to thank the whales personally as without them, we wouldn't be here at this time. It might be a dry hole, we just do not know but I tell you what. If you think your mad at the DSPP dilution, I wonder how the whales feel. They are diluted monthly and have been for a while.
Maybe it is a tax write off or something. I doubt it, they just quietly helped.
The DSPP got us here today Tisdal. I know your frustrated but keep that in mind.
This one is unique. I am not sure it can be modeled.
Without oil, maybe 0.10, with oil $1-2
Right now, its just a guess during the wait.
I get it but, when that theory came out there was no plunge protection team.
Stocks are almost all traded via programs now. I am sure ZNOG is one of them traded. When you see 7 shares traded, then 22, then 10,000, you know.
No worries though. These programs are trying to get you to sell. They are way faster than humans. The old days of the traders on the floor are long past.
I read through it and most was above my understanding. An oil guy such as yourself could make better sense of it for sure. Maybe the oil folks here can summarize it?
Edit I did find another link, a pdf for some reading. I downloaded it and will read later, bedtime.
Abiogenic Origin of Hydrocarbons: An Historical Overview
Abiogenic Deep Origin of Hydrocarbons and Oil and Gas Deposits Formation
Heck, get the book, this is but one chapter.
Talk of diamonds does make sense though.
Figure 3.
Sources of the carbon in the crust (adapted from images by R. Coggon and K. Nakamura).
All I can say is wow. I am learning...
Those of us that have been saying politics plays a major part have been right and now we have solid evidence of the NatGas at least.
Great find Tisdal!!
Edit:
I am pretty sur that was Afek in the Golan, 300-350m thick.
Oh I agree with the politics now. But remember there are lots of Russians in Israel.
We supply them with foreign aid now, but what if?
You have to remember something, the Nation of Israel today is secular. There are many whom do not believe, and they are in power for the most part.
Well I can not find it with my Googlefoo.
I do remember it, old wells ready to be capped that had refilled.
I also remember the Permian and the new drill sites in-between the ones done in the 30's and 40's. Hit NEW oil.
This is a long read so I will just link it but a really good article. It has the chemistry of it as well. I will be busy.
Edit:
Ok great day today for a few reasons. First we were green. I pulled up a level 2 and was watching and saw the 200 shares sell to drop the price. I waited and watched as the market was closing. So I said the heck with it, put in a buy for 1000 shares at 0.25. Immediately executed as expected but I got them for 0.244. Immediately afterwards, large amounts sold to bring the price up. I do not have the powder to cause a change but what I saw did happen. I actually took the share price down!
Since I am limited I will cut and paste some thoughts from today's discussions..
I know , it is not what folks want to hear. As far as replenishing oil, the Abiotic theory is worth a look. I no longer immediately dismiss it. Saudi fields are a good example as they should have went dry long ago.
It only pertains to Zion Oil in the fact that mankind does not yet know all there is about oil.
What I do know, its not from dead dinosaurs and my dad told me that 40 years ago. He knew about the Bakken, just not how we would get to it.
I will grab those, my information on Gharwar is lacking.
Thanks
Good points. I guess what we need to know is what have they found now that the 3D was completed and MJ2 drilled and cased?
A trip down memory lane would be in order...
You are welcome, please poke holes in it.
KyOil has been a big help in reigning in the unknowns. You yourself have been doing some fantastic research. We are limited in how we communicate so at least try.
Many people watch, few contribute. I can not blame them.
I like how Disney is being challenged.
Go woke Go broke.
Exactly,
I am not worried about it much. They saved the company period., We are but bystanders at this point. That said, I am serious about going private, that is my concern no matter the outcome of MJ2. If it goes private, and there is oil, then Zion as a company will succeed, but the 15 years shareholders will be decimated.
Let's consider something however, at the conclusion of MJ1 there was little hope. We were a 25 million dollar company, with a license. If the whale, wanted to crush it he could have bought the whole thing for less than he has put in it in 2 years. That says a lot. One of two things, the BOD said no, or he bought into the mission. I think he bought in. He wants to see it succeed as he provided the funds to get us here today. We are but minor holders, but this saved the company. He is not the threat in my opinion. They should have a say at this point and a big one at that. Table scraps, that is what I would like.