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Maximum of $30,000 over 10 years. ($3000/year)
What pisses me off is that whatever you make, they want 1/2 now but if you lose, they want you to make the deductions over many frikki'n years. I love this system. You take all the risks and you if happen to make some money, they take half of it now, but if you lose, they ignore you. LOL.
Got sick today from filing taxes. I lost thousands on this piece of crap, but I can only deduct $3000 maximum.
We get screwed by the government and pieces of crap like the Hamilton's and sissy BOYD.
I lost so much money with those SLEESE BALLS. It is not even funny anymore. I even made my friend who does not have any money lose a couple thousand. She does not even have any money to lose.
I am pissed beyond your imagination. Those bastards need to pay.
We can't let them get away with his crap. My suggestion is all of of us go up there and demand our money back. I don't have a problem losing money when a company suddenly loses a big customer for competitive reasons and the stock tanks. It is a risk associated with investments, but those bastards were crooks from the get go. they never intended to develop the business. It was all a lie from the beginning. They are scam artists.
Here is my question to the board.
Would you lend money to the crooked lying cheating manipulators?
If the answer is "no", that would be exactly the same answer they will get from the lender.
Who would be stupid enough to lend money to those crooked, dishonest bastards? I am still thinking of sending a nasty email to that bastard lying crook ceo who left without warning and of course, he did it after he stole our hard earned money.
You guys are still waiting for Santa? Those bastards, Hamilton's and that CROOKED CEO who left without warning really screwed us.
1-Insurance business will start generating income in the second quarter
2- We are closing our pools of mortgages without interruption even though we moved our offices.
3- We went live the first quarter according to plan and we are closing on mortgages.
4- Business here in Canada is different than in the U.S. and we are not affected by the sub-prime mess (Boyd's press release)
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I wish there is a way to stick a hot rod in their asses and watch then those bastards burn.
Can add more but I am on my way out the door to lunch.
I have decided to lend the Hamilton's 10 million dollars. I know that they are good and honest people. They even preach at my church. They also always keep their word. I am going with the transaction... no if's and but's. To people on this board, Don't even try to convince me otherwise. OK? LOL.
I am. LOL
Just because our greed got the best of us and we got screwed, it does not mean that some hedge fund or a bank is blind like we were.
Nobody in their right mind will sign a $10 million check and hand it to those crooks.
Crooks they are, and if you all had a better word, let me know.
My wish is that they will never have any peace the rest of their lives as they will always be looking behind them....
Boyd and the Hamilton's, you mother fuckers, if you are reading this board, "after the sunlight darkness sets in"
Darkness: Sooner or later, you will pay for what you did to us small investors.
Sunlight for you: It was the day you robbed us.
Just sent an email to the company. I will keep the board informed of any answer I get from them.
down over $80,000. How about that?
Thyme, unfortunately for me, I got screwed too. I am sorry for everyone that lost money.
I can guaranty you that those bastards are not sleeping in the same bed every night. They are constantly watching over their backs. They know that many people who trusted them lost a fortune. I hope that they get what they deserve. The saying goes like this "you reap what you sow"
Good luck to you.
They lied from the get go over and they are still lying.
One question to the board.
Would you lend money to those jokes? And if you would not, why do you think that some institution would be trusting 10 million dollars to those crooks. The problem with those bastards is that they don't even know how to lie. They left so many traces and it is not even funny.
Their word if they had any is not even worth cow manure.
HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE!!!
Still licking my wounds.
joncody45, I decided to stop in here and see what is going on. I read your thread and I could not help to think that you are so funnnnyyyyyy! You made me laugh so hard that I had to break my promise on not posting in here anymore.
I almost used a whole box of kleenex. Though, I do have a couple plies left for next time.
The statement below was the one that put tears in my eyes. LOLLL
"I wouldn't mind contacting him and see if he is even aware of being the CEO for 4-5 months."
Keep up the good work. As for me I quit reading their pr's a longtime ago.
Good luck
Hello, friends.
This is my last post as I don't even want to be reminded of this company the rest of my life.
It has been quite an experience and a big lesson in investing. I fell for empty promises and I lost thousands of dollars. I even talked to a friend who really did not have any money to lose to invest in this company. She is not very happy as you can imagine. There were so many red flags and so many inconsistencies in their PR's. It was not even funny, yet I ignored all of them. I stayed invested. When I decided to sell I was already out over 90%percent of my principal. Those people ( Boyd and Hamilton ) don't have any conscience. I don't even know how they can go to bed at night knowing full well that many people have lost so much money because of their deceits. I guess that it takes all kind of people to make this world.
I know that I was very negative on this board, but I hope you understand my frustration knowing that probably they are out cooking another scam. They need to be arrested and put away so that they don't do it to another person. I don't care what excuse or excuses they come up with. They are just bad people.
Let it be a lesson, and guys don't ignore those red flags and inconsistencies when you see them. They are there for a reason. They are there to protect us. Unfortunately, in this case they cost me and my friend big for ignoring them.
I need to forget about this experience and move on. It is like a bad relationship that has gone sour. There is no need to look back, because the other person is probably out having a good time and they don't even care. Always look forward and that is the only good and sane thing to do
Good luck to you all
Here is a real company that actually is supported by its officers.
PRVT
31-Oct-07 MILTON BERTH H
Officer 1,000,000 Direct Purchase at $3.30 per share. $3,300,000
18-Oct-07 MILTON BERTH H
Officer 500,000 Direct Purchase at $3.18 per share. $1,590,000
15-Oct-07 MILTON BERTH H
Officer 500,000 Direct Purchase at $2.78 per share. $1,390,000
Here is my feeling.
RFNS stock price is under 1 penny and none of the management is coming forward with even a 100 share buy using their own money. LMFAO. Hamilton and Boyd and the rest of you up in Canada who are involved with this scam" GO TO FRIKKI'N HELL", You are a bunch of scum-bags. Go sue me, ass---es!
Did you notice how Hamilton is trying to weasle out of the commitment of the 14th?
He is a master manipulator if you ask me. They have been feeding hope to the investors for over a year. And like past commitments this one too will end up being an empty one.
This company is doomed.
Any relationships or businesses that are based on lies, deceits eventually always end in bankrupty.
Buz. I am sorry too for not understanding you.
Let me know what you all wanna do.
Good luck
I don't have a problem with BUZ or anyone on this board. We are all on the same boat. My insults were directed at BOYD and Hamilton. BUZ came in here and insulted me.
Got it?
I would like to join you all in a law suit against those criminals ( BOYD and HAMILTON).
I was insulting Hamilton and Boyd and you are insulting me?
You really are an idiot. Did I steal your money?
Go to hell.
Just remembered this from one of the press releases.
We moved to a larger place so we can accommodate our growth and we are on track to close our next pool of mortgages on time.
LMFAO
What a bunch of frikki'n without any conscience motherf---!
MPZQ, I am not a violent person. It is only a wish on my part to them for stealing my kid's money. I believed in everything they were telling us, so I trusted my hard earned money to them.
Obviously it was a scam from the start because they kept lying so we can hang in there in order for them to finish the job of robbing us. We sent them emails. we called them. We called investors relations and all that time they were telling us that things were going great. The sub-prime mess happened here in the U.S. Then guess what? They used that excuse to weasel out.
I don't know what I would do if I happen to see Hamilton and Boyd the bastards. Like I said before, I wish them the most horrible DEATH.
It is good to keep faith, unfortunately, if you go back to their press releases, none of them had any truth in them.
I think that Boyd and Hamilton do not have anything good for anybody but themselves. Why else will they keep lying? Why can't they put out a press release where they actually told us the truth, that they are sorry and also they will do their best to redeem themselves? You know why?
Too busy cooking the next scam. I stand by this. If if any of the two, ever come on this board and mention my me, I will tell him what I think.. I will also give him my phone number so they can contact me. I will tell you that I will not be very nice to them . And that is for sure.
Scum and dirt-bags, that is what they are.
bomo, I feel your pain, I like you, lost a lot money that I could have used to help my kids. Instead, those crooks with no conscience that I hope will rote here on earth and in hell, robbed us. I would have completely forgiven them and not be upset if they actually ran the business in an ethical way. They started this venture with the sole purpose to deceive, lie, cheat and steal our money. I wish them DEATH in most horrible way. I mean it too. Boyd, Hamilton , you will get what you deserve here on earth and beyond. Mark this thread. Life always catches up with us. if we do good, we get good and if we do bad, we will get that back too. They are among the most despicable people on this earth. They lied and deceived us through all the press releases.
"If reliant was sent a delisting notice from the sec, would they have to let us know that? I expect that that is what happened and that reliant delisted themselves prior to the sec doing it for them."
You are probably right as those crooks will do just that.
Delist themselves before it is done for them
I don't believe nor trust in what they do, promise. They don't have a conscience. What do you expect from dirt-bags?
Thank you. This investment is good as Saddam underground.
It is finished. Who would be buying this piece....? I lost thousands and thanks to Hamilton and Boyd the scumbag liars, cheats, manipulators and crooks.
I wish I followed your advice and gotten the hell out of this scam. It cost me a bunch. The thing is that it was so obvious that the bastards were out to steal our money, but we stayed and gave them the benefit of the doubt and look where it got us. All the red flag were there but I ignored them.
Bullcrap. I am telling you and I repeat, they are selling shares to pay for their salaries and the beach houses in Florida.
In a couple of months, check the number of outstanding shares then come back to me. They have been doing this crap forever. They pulled that one last quarter too.
More ass dilution for sure. Like I said before, the wives are nagging them to pay for the beach houses in Florida.
Sad indeed.
LOL. I actually think that if you and I met, we will have a blast together. Honest. I hope you make a bunch on this turd.
I really think that you are a "MOLE"
From management: We are tired of waiting. Our wives are pressuring us into finding more suckers to drive this stock up so we can pay CASH for our properties in Florida and also have more money left so we can live a happy life without worrying about money anymore until we meet our maker. And we will also try to deceive our maker when we meet him. It is just in our blood to do so.
Me too. I am with you on this one. And thank you for the CD suggestion. I knew that I could count on you. LOL.
I think about going to BBY and buy the CD. I will play it in my car, on my computer, on my mp3 and on my IPOD.
Thank you for the suggestion. I knoew somehow that there would be a song with that title. Now I don't have to look it up.
LOL
Givethanks, No need to rationalise. Those people from day one wanted to steal our money, HONEST. If it were legal, I would go up there find the bastards and stick a hot rod in you know where. Too bad that we have to find a lawyer, spend more money, go to court, prove that they are scumbags, cheats,deceivers, liars and crooks.
I knew that you will show up. LOL.
I will not judge you ever again. However I still think that the company planted you on this board.
Also,they will say the following. I hope that very soon we can find a stupid guy like AGHRUM who just kept rationalising eventhough we put up 2000 red flags right in front of his face to tell him that we are CROOKS. He ignored them to the point of losing thousands of dollars that his kids need for their education. He was gullible and we can't wait to find more IDIOTS like him.
The management
Here it is. Knowing how the scumbags upthere have been behaving for the last year and a half. This is what they are going to say. The 10 million dollars we were promised cannot be given to us as they found out from outside sources that we lied to our esteemed and gullible shareholders that we have been screwing all along. But, do not despair as we are still looking for more suckers
who can depart with their hard earned money. We identified more Florida properties that our wives were planning to buy so we can retire to as soon as the SUCKER write the BIG check to us.
Good luck.