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Ok, check out this chat board. This is an ex MM they are talking to. He explains that these are called "cross-trading" and MM's do this in an attempt to create volume. Some of you might recognise some of the people. ~just sharing~
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Today at 9am est we had our Market Maker Expert Steve Kanaval do a question and answer session for us and it was HUGE, had about 40+ here today and will do it again Thursday during market hours
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[09:19:02] MicroMarkets: Good morning Steve
[09:19:03] Royalflush: {Skanaval} Good morning
[09:19:08] Stock Analyzer: So without any further talking from me let me introduce you to Steve Kanaval our Market Maker Expert
[09:19:20] Stock Analyzer: Steve please get comfortable here
[09:19:24] Skanaval: good morning all sorry for the delay
[09:19:36] Skanaval: I can stay as long as needed
[09:19:40] enJOY: {Skanaval} np, we are pleased you can make it
[09:20:02] Callthebank: Morning Steve
[09:20:06] lasernat: gm
[09:20:07] Skanaval: morning
[09:20:10] Royalflush: {chuck44l} GM
[09:20:24] DONNAS: GM
[09:20:28] Skanaval: sorry Im late laptop issues
[09:20:35] Skanaval: so where do we start
[09:20:44] chuck44l: gm royal
[09:20:50] chuck44l: gm all
[09:20:50] enJOY: {Skanaval} perhaps you can explain to our group what the role of a Market Maker is
[09:21:00] chuck44l: thanks for being here Steve
[09:21:06] jav992: {chuck44l} gm
[09:21:19] Skanaval: in the broadest sense its to provide liquidity
[09:21:23] chuck44l: hi ya jav
[09:21:38] katblk: Steve;If you oversell your book do you borrow from other mm to cover your sales and if you do does it show up in time and sales as volume?
[09:21:40] Skanaval: in the early days on the floor (which still exsists
[09:22:01] Skanaval: speicalists used there own money, as doo commodity market makers
[09:22:16] katblk: ty
[09:22:20] Skanaval: but u guys need to know real life things that help u trade
[09:22:51] chuck44l: lets hear em steve
[09:23:05] lasernat: what are those real life things? tia
[09:23:24] enJOY: {Skanaval} guys and gals lol
[09:23:28] Skanaval: please understand that the majority of market makers do not want a position
[09:23:33] chuck44l: lol joy
[09:23:40] chuck44l: gm carlito
[09:23:44] Skanaval: they are working an order
[09:23:55] Carlito: Gm ,alllll
[09:24:09] Skanaval: and they compete against the alogorythum (computer models) and the public
[09:24:43] chuck44l: {Skanaval} please explain alogorythum
[09:24:52] Skanaval: also the promotions to move the stock price that exists in small and microcap
[09:25:11] Skanaval: i would like to explain !.) algo trades
[09:25:24] Skanaval: 2.) promotion trading
[09:25:36] enJOY: {Skanaval} great thank you
[09:25:54] Callthebank: Steve one of the questions I would like to know . Is there a true numbers system and what do the real numbers mean..Exsample 411
[09:25:58] enJOY: {Lex_Luthor} gm
[09:26:12] chuck44l: gm lex
[09:26:12] Lex_Luthor: {enJOY} gm
[09:26:18] Lex_Luthor: gm all
[09:26:34] enJOY: Can we let Steve give his explanations of the system and then we can ask him questions ....sound good?
[09:26:46] Callthebank: 10-4
[09:26:48] Skanaval: CTB..let me come back to that
[09:26:59] Skanaval: Algorythum trades
[09:27:17] katblk: Steve:Why in pinkie land and bb when so many shares are in the float it takes huge volumme to move it forward,but then out of nowhere a few thousands shares trades and the stock drop a high percentage
[09:27:38] Skanaval: are ctalled VWAP or Volume Average Price Weighted
[09:27:52] chuck44l: gm redz
[09:27:58] redZ94: morning
[09:28:09] Skanaval: where the computer will prompt to trade with the volume
[09:28:40] Skanaval: whereas if 1000 sharest next avail price trade at a price it will auto execute
[09:28:41] chuck44l: for all that don't know we have Markt maker Steve Kanaval with us for a q&A session
[09:28:51] i_like_bb_stock: ATNO asking 009!
[09:29:06] chuck44l: gm elcheepo
[09:29:06] Lex_Luthor: brb
[09:29:27] Skanaval: I know we are in the opening range so you guys do what you do and I will keep typing
[09:29:41] chuck44l: ty steve
[09:29:44] enJOY: {Skanaval} sounds good thanks
[09:29:47] Skanaval: INIX is a good example of a stock in promotion
[09:29:48] Carlito: {Skanaval} :--)))) thx
[09:29:50] chuck44l: gm rakk
[09:30:15] rakkbjblessed: {chuck44l} gm
[09:30:19] Skanaval: I spokew ith the Chairman and asked if he would come pn later this week
[09:30:24] Skanaval: Drew
[09:30:28] jav992: also, please let steve finish what he is talking about now before going to questions
[09:30:57] Larry: {jav992} agreed
[09:31:07] Skanaval: know that INIX can only iuse stock to raise money and this dilutes everyone
[09:31:23] chuck44l: gm crypt
[09:31:29] i_like_bb_stock: ATNO 008x009
[09:31:45] Skanaval: he hired a "market awareness" firm if you read his press release
[09:32:11] Skanaval: and he gives them discounted stock and they start buying and average up
[09:32:16] Skanaval: then they sell
[09:32:21] Skanaval: very simple
[09:32:31] chuck44l: great info steve
[09:32:40] Skanaval: except if you are there when the promotion ends
[09:32:49] Skanaval: and no one knows the timing
[09:32:56] Skanaval: except 1 guy
[09:32:56] jav992: amhd, .0027
[09:33:02] Skanaval: so be careful there
[09:33:24] jav992: brb
[09:33:37] Skanaval: let me lkook back at another question
[09:34:10] enJOY: {Skanaval} how can we spot a Market Awareness firm doing the buying?
[09:34:17] Larry: frgy .067
[09:34:36] lasernat: Steve concerning promotions when a company is raising capital, is there a certain target when it goes on a run and how is that figured if so? tia
[09:34:42] Skanaval: enjoy
[09:34:52] Skanaval: there is a website that lists them
[09:35:00] Skanaval: I will find it for you
[09:35:00] i_like_bb_stock: ATNO 008x0085 3x1 the buying continues
[09:35:05] enJOY: {Skanaval} thank you
[09:35:28] Skanaval: but you can tell by increase in volume
[09:35:36] chuck44l: {redwing} m to ya
[09:35:41] chuck44l: gm
[09:35:41] don_t: {Skanaval} That alone is worth the price of admission.
[09:36:13] chuck44l: hi gocubs
[09:36:17] redwing: morning
[09:36:33] Skanaval: the promoter is trying to dupe you guys into buying
[09:36:40] Skanaval: so he can get out
[09:37:11] Skanaval: and the company turns over all shares to promoter
[09:37:16] chuck44l: once again for anybody that don't know we have steve kanaval with us this morning for a q&a session about market makers and how they work
[09:37:21] Skanaval: they have little control
[09:37:40] Skanaval: another thing about Algo Trades
[09:37:49] i_like_bb_stock: adcs news ADCS news: Advanced Content Services Reveals Strategic Alliance With Major Big Ten University MBA Program
[09:38:00] Skanaval: these were designed in the 80's to mirror trader tendencies
[09:38:21] enJOY: {Skanaval} for the benefit of whom?
[09:38:22] Skanaval: I helped design them with Goldman and Reay Plus
[09:38:31] Skanaval: Ready Plus
[09:38:54] chuck44l: gm chart trader
[09:39:01] Skanaval: they have become a monster for markets
[09:39:20] ChartTrader: g/m guys&gals
[09:39:40] Skanaval: the guy who blew up at the French bank
[09:39:57] Skanaval: was using a n algo system and he got over his head
[09:40:36] Skanaval: next time i come on i will have links so you guys can follow the thought process
[09:40:56] Skanaval: and I will come here at least once a week to help you identify action
[09:41:02] Skanaval: know this
[09:41:05] chuck44l: thanks steve
[09:41:14] Skanaval: if you are buying a stock which is rising
[09:41:14] Carlito: {Skanaval} k, thx
[09:41:22] dak77: Thank you
[09:41:23] enJOY: {Skanaval} most helpful thank you
[09:41:43] Skanaval: you are playing a game similar to hedgefunds where they are jumping on a momentum trade
[09:41:53] Skanaval: and they have deep pockets
[09:42:09] Skanaval: that is THE moost difficult trade to make
[09:42:16] Skanaval: buy a rising stock
[09:42:23] Skanaval: or short a falling stock
[09:42:42] Skanaval: most people in microcaps are relativeloy new traders
[09:42:59] Skanaval: its like asking some one in band camp to play Mozart
[09:43:13] jav992: amhd .0028x.0029 2/1
[09:43:42] chuck44l: gm wymen
[09:43:47] Skanaval: in microcap your only edge is knowing where all the bones are buried
[09:43:59] wymen: GM everyone
[09:44:01] Skanaval: who owns the shares and what they intend to do with them
[09:44:13] chuck44l: if woofer was here i know he would respond lol
[09:44:27] Skanaval: to know this you must read the filings or call the company
[09:44:53] Skanaval: I am glad to call any company for you or sort out filings
[09:45:12] Skanaval: you guys have an edge in your room becuase you can disseminate info as a team
[09:45:15] Skanaval: use that
[09:45:27] chuck44l: steve how come i feel like a market maker is stepping over my order at times
[09:45:29] Lex_Luthor: would it be possible to get a transcript of Skanaval's talk today?
[09:45:41] Stock Analyzer: yes lex
[09:45:45] enJOY: {Skanaval} are you becoming a permanent member of our group?
[09:45:47] Skanaval: market markers know ahead of time the info to be released
[09:45:50] Lex_Luthor: EXCELLENT!
[09:45:50] chuck44l: {Lex_Luthor} yes save session
[09:45:53] Skanaval: you dont
[09:46:02] Skanaval: so its a spped game
[09:46:06] Skanaval: speed
[09:46:34] Skanaval: you guys need to be like the underdogs in gladioator
[09:46:46] Stock Analyzer: {Skanaval} lol love that
[09:46:52] enJOY: {Skanaval} lol we are
[09:47:05] Skanaval: and hide under your shields
[09:47:10] Callthebank: agreed
[09:47:16] Skanaval: because they want to harm your pocketbooks
[09:47:36] ChartTrader: BLLB moving up slowly
[09:47:40] Skanaval: as a former hedgefund manager
[09:47:46] Skanaval: we would divide dutiews
[09:48:03] Lex_Luthor: I had to chase BLLB to .004 to get in!!, erg!
[09:48:05] Skanaval: everyone had an area they would research and we would have fire drills
[09:48:21] Skanaval: to see how fast we could decifer info
[09:48:31] Stock Analyzer: FRGY going for .07 here soon imo
[09:48:38] chuck44l: {capNkewl} gm
[09:48:38] ChartTrader: {Lex_Luthor} it was mentioned yesterday
[09:48:46] Skanaval: you all should divide your skill sets
[09:48:51] capNkewl: goooood mornin all
[09:48:57] capNkewl: heyaz chaz!
[09:49:00] Lex_Luthor: I tried yesterday and they wouuld not sell to me
[09:49:24] ChartTrader: k
[09:49:31] Skanaval: also know that pink sheet guys skirt sooo much regulation
[09:49:54] Skanaval: whereas a OTCBB guys is paying much money to satify sarbanes oxley
[09:50:08] Stock Analyzer: {Skanaval} really appreciate you being here Steve
[09:50:09] Skanaval: most OTCBB companies should not even be public
[09:50:13] enJOY: {Skanaval} am I correct in deciphering that you feel as a chat group, we should form one buying group?
[09:50:15] Skanaval: np
[09:50:23] Skanaval: NO
[09:50:36] Lex_Luthor: Like Shakerzzz?
[09:50:42] enJOY: {Skanaval} ok, clarifying for others
[09:50:42] chuck44l: lol
[09:50:44] Skanaval: I mean you should arrive at conclusions aas a group and trade on your own
[09:50:57] enJOY: {Skanaval} perfect
[09:51:06] Skanaval: this is why there places will always exosts
[09:51:14] Skanaval: exsist
[09:51:33] Skanaval: becuase the social concept is changing communication
[09:52:01] capNkewl: thank u Dr Phil
[09:52:02] Skanaval: and thus changing markets
[09:52:07] enJOY: {capNkewl} lol
[09:52:21] Lex_Luthor: Did anyone talk about mirror trades?
[09:52:25] chuck44l: {cha_ching} gm
[09:52:32] enJOY: {Skanaval} agree and important
[09:53:02] Skanaval: I dont know what a miror trade is can you describe what happens
[09:53:13] Skanaval: it propbably has another name
[09:53:37] Lex_Luthor: 200000 bout, 200000 sold at the same time
[09:53:41] Lex_Luthor: immediately
[09:53:54] Lex_Luthor: back and forth
[09:53:58] Skanaval: cross trades
[09:54:00] Skanaval: yes
[09:54:02] Lex_Luthor: yes
[09:54:06] cha_ching: gm....chuck
[09:54:11] Skanaval: these are done by the same trader
[09:54:13] jav992: {Lex_Luthor} or 200550x200550
[09:54:16] Lex_Luthor: meaning crossing stock?
[09:54:19] Skanaval: to create volume
[09:54:23] ChartTrader: {Lex_Luthor} that's called painting the tape
[09:54:24] Skanaval: yes
[09:54:28] Skanaval: yes
[09:54:39] Lex_Luthor: {Skanaval} Crossing?
[09:54:41] Skanaval: to draw watchers and participants
[09:54:44] ChartTrader: which is illegal but MMs do it all the time
[09:54:52] Skanaval: yes they are crossing trades
[09:55:00] Lex_Luthor: I used to cross in 87, LOL
[09:55:21] capNkewl: TMI
[09:55:22] doc_frank: gm all
[09:55:26] Lex_Luthor: I thought cross could only be between same MM?
[09:55:40] jav992: {Skanaval} have you covered 411 and 911 trades? are they signals
[09:55:47] Skanaval: if you all think that the regulators have any control over the massses and that they can protect you you are dillusional
[09:56:04] chuck44l: gm doc
[09:56:09] Skanaval: u can cross a customer order with the firm
[09:56:11] Lex_Luthor: I have placed order trades in at 911 before
[09:56:25] cha_ching: is there any validity to the numerical trades such as 100......200....500 etc.
[09:56:36] cha_ching: do they mean any thing
[09:57:10] Skanaval: Technial analysis effects markets
[09:57:11] doc_frank: wheres crypt
[09:57:23] Crypt_Keeper: im here frank
[09:57:36] Skanaval: logical round number stopping points effect perception
[09:57:38] enJOY: {Skanaval} like jav asked, are there signal trades like odd numbers that signal MMs
[09:58:05] Skanaval: Enjoy..I would say in general NO
[09:58:19] enJOY: {Skanaval} in general? lol
[09:58:25] Skanaval: they dont care..they care about their current position
[09:58:38] cha_ching: Skanaval.......my question was for you
[09:58:38] chuck44l: there will be a chat log posted
[09:58:43] Skanaval: and how much time they have to execute
[09:58:51] doc_frank: onmc ban what did you post or who did you chew out / will not get past my ears
[09:58:58] Royalflush: PCLI on watch .018 +28%
[09:59:05] Skanaval: cha ching
[09:59:16] Crypt_Keeper: lol..i'll pm ya
[09:59:17] chuck44l: gm alegra
[09:59:17] enJOY: {Skanaval} so many times we see 711 , 411 ..is that merely someone who likes to trade odd numbers?
[09:59:34] chuck44l: nice group today thanks all for being here
[09:59:35] lasernat: do MM's walk down a stock to shake you out or is that done by clever traders?
[09:59:36] JimmyJ: Have a great ay all. Thanks Steve, very informative!
[09:59:49] enJOY: {JimmyJ} cya
[09:59:56] chuck44l: see ya jimmy
[10:00:00] jav992: {JimmyJ} thanks for coming
[10:00:00] Skanaval: these are identifying flags so they can go back and read tape
[10:00:16] chuck44l: {Skanaval} please explain
[10:00:21] enJOY: {lasernat} good question
[10:00:39] Skanaval: sorry i did not understand question
[10:00:46] Skanaval: these are all algo rythum trades so they can go retest thier system
[10:00:55] Skanaval: and they put a 411 on it
[10:01:03] Skanaval: or 711 or 911
[10:01:12] cha_ching: Skanaval....it's said those are signal numbers to other MM's needing more shares etc.
[10:01:18] enJOY: {Skanaval} ahhhhhh ok
[10:01:33] Skanaval: the computer can review price action in hindisght and upgrade algo
[10:02:02] enJOY: {Skanaval} so we are not trading against human nature, we are trading against a machine more so
[10:02:09] Lex_Luthor: {Skanaval} I have bought at 911 to make traders think stock is going higher
[10:02:10] Skanaval: yes
[10:02:22] Lex_Luthor: lol
[10:02:22] Skanaval: but someone is monitoring multiple names at the same time
[10:02:27] enJOY: {Skanaval} gets more like Las Vegas all the time lol
[10:02:35] Skanaval: yes it does
[10:02:55] Skanaval: be back in 5 mins, need to check on my flight
[10:03:04] cha_ching: (Skanaval) was that yes for me...???
[10:03:07] enJOY: {Skanaval} ok,
[10:03:37] Lex_Luthor: {Stock Analyzer} This is great!
[10:03:47] enJOY: {cha_ching} ask again when he gets back
[10:04:09] jav992: {cha_ching} he said: hese are all algo rythum trades
so they can go retest thier system
Skanaval: and they put a 411 on it
Skanaval: or 711 or 911
[10:04:38] chuck44l: gm sky
[10:04:57] skyblu: g/m all
[10:05:37] Royalflush: GRMU .0024 +41%
[10:05:52] Skanaval: back
[10:05:56] Lex_Luthor: looks like BLLB shake
[10:05:59] Skanaval: cha ching
[10:06:31] enJOY: {Lex_Luthor} so you are the 911 hahahaha
[10:06:45] Lex_Luthor: {enJOY} sometimes LOL
[10:06:56] enJOY: {Lex_Luthor} lmao
[10:07:04] Skanaval: the 411 and 911 is so they can retest the algorythum by looking at the action of the tape and thier trades stand out
[10:07:13] allegra: does anyone know anything about PDGT
[10:07:20] Skanaval: I ma no longer a market maker
[10:07:21] cha_ching: {cha_ching} (Skanval)...ok.....can u give us a list of what those alog. numbers mean
[10:07:36] Skanaval: yes i can
[10:07:58] Skanaval: I will need to post it on the site i do not have it all in front of me
[10:08:07] Skanaval: and i want to be up to date for you
[10:08:12] Carlito: K
[10:08:13] enJOY: {Skanaval} that would be excellent
[10:08:22] Callthebank: {Skanaval} Why do some buys or Sells I put in not show on the L2 ..But are near the money
[10:08:38] cha_ching: (Skanaval).....ok......thanks....that would be most helpful to us all
[10:09:16] Skanaval: ctb
[10:09:22] Skanaval: i dont know
[10:09:27] Skanaval: but will find out
[10:09:58] Skanaval: here is info still coming to me in the form we would get it
[10:10:12] Skanaval: 7:06:21 AM): VNO--neg chatter---Hearing New York State Assembly is looking to put Penn Station redevelopment deal on a permanent hold. - could be a significant negative for the co.\h
[10:10:14] chuck44l: we should start a q&a session for steve on the home page
[10:10:18] Royalflush: {Skanaval} dont you think once they are published on a cht board thyll change them or its not that easy
[10:10:18] cha_ching: (Skanaval)....I'v seen same numbers at BID & ASK for couple minutes......then it starts moving......does this mean any thing
[10:10:34] Skanaval: it means someones system is slow
[10:10:41] Skanaval: probably you connect speed
[10:10:48] Skanaval: they have very fast systems
[10:10:58] Skanaval: zero latency normally
[10:11:31] Callthebank: it's only on some I have seen this
[10:11:36] Skanaval: All..I must go catch a flight. I will come back Thursday
[10:11:52] Lex_Luthor: Thanks alot!
[10:11:52] Skanaval: I hope this helped you
[10:12:10] Callthebank: A big thanks STEVE
[10:12:13] Skanaval: I am glad to support knowlegde and understanding of the markets
[10:12:13] cha_ching: (Skanaval)......thanks
[10:12:14] enJOY: {Skanaval} thank you so much for being here ........you have been so open, direct and helpful. We look forward to your return.
[10:12:15] Crypt_Keeper: thanks steve
[10:12:30] enJOY: {Skanaval} Would like to keep you around lol
[10:12:36] Skanaval: I will make my self available over the next few weeks for you all
[10:12:37] enJOY: {Mary} gm
[10:12:45] enJOY: {Skanaval} muchas gracias senor
[10:12:46] Crypt_Keeper: much appreciated
[10:12:46] Mary: good morning, sunshine
[10:12:51] chuck44l: thanks steve
[10:12:55] Skanaval: trade safe..friends dont let friends buy highs
[10:12:58] Callthebank: Great like hearing that.
[10:13:03] Skanaval: or sell lows
[10:13:05] jav992: {Skanaval} see you thurs.
[10:13:15] enJOY: {Skanaval} will do our best
[10:13:18] chuck44l: {Skanaval} call me when you get a chance and we will get your mic set up
[10:13:29] Skanaval: become an honest tight knit community with vareid research skill sets
[10:13:31] Mary: chuck!!!!
[10:13:36] cha_ching: Steve.......that's food advise
[10:13:36] Skanaval: will do
I spoke with a different person at my local office. After waiting on hold, she came back and told me the response email that the other guy had gotten from the main office was : we have not been informed of these divys at this time :
She explained that there was no payout date yet and no info from the DTC.
Then I asked her "what if they are 3rd party divys?" and she said that if that is the case, then they could possibly send them to the shareholders by certified mail.
Then I asked her "how would they get our addresses?" And she said that they would contact our brokers and request a list of shareholders. Unless we signed a privacy statement they CAN give it out in regards to our stocks.
Then I asked her "how can I go about finding out if (or when) they contact ST for my address"?
She told me that I can call them anytime and ask them if they've been contacted. She said it wasn't common to do it this way, but it HAS happened with pinks.
I'm gonna start calling every two days, starting with Monday. Hey if they mail them to me, they MUST contact ST to request our addresses.
Did anyone have their T&S up? I'd like to know if there were any mirror trades, and if so, how many? TIA
PROL is worthless (practically) but it's always been worthless! LOL...but I've seen a little movement on it lately. Goes weeks without buys/sells. Another struggling company!
But remember the "goldfish swallowing the whale"?
This is the whale! 20,000 stores by 2011. I'm game!
Been a year for me. I like the sounds of Good Life. Looking forward to the divy and maybe will buy more after it settles into the market. GL
He thinks they will be mailed to the brokers. ~I asked him how they could possibly have my physical address and he said they could not know that information.~ They know everyones names and our brokers, but not our home addresses. Hopefully, he'll have more solid facts whenever he gets a response from the main office. If I don't hear back today, I'll call him tomorrow morning again. GL
I just got off the phone with ST. He just explained to me that he has no idea how they would have my physical address, and that the divy would probably be mailed to them "scottrade" because they HAVE that information. He said that if that is the case, it would ~probably~ be applied to my account under the ticker of TLGP, UNTIL the restriction was lifted and then it would be displayed with the new ticker.
~example~ I owned PAIM just long enough to receive the PROL divy. The restriction on that is due to be lifted on 4-1-08. But right now, it's listed on my account under the old name of PHIL. On 4-1, it will automatically be changed to PROL and be available to trade.
He is emailing the main office to try and confirm how this is going to take place and will try and call me back later this afternoon.
~just sharing~
Here's another thing...after waiting on hold, he came back and said "it looks like that dividend will be mailed out" ....meaning that he DID see that the divy would be coming:)
Compliments of ClayTrader.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=27551855
Thank you!
Hi ClayTrader, would you please update a chart for ASII, when you have time?
This is good stuff. Knowledge is always good:) Thanks for sharing this!
congrats you two. Got mine this morning too. GLTA
Two partials, not done yet. They mirrored both. Good luck to us tomorrow:)
I've never seen a website for ASII, but soon you might find them under Global Staffing:) Can't believe this price, hope they finish filling my order today
Thats my partial fill, waiting for the rest. But I actually got 13513"6" so far.
And thanks for the update Lexey:) Thats good news!
I have to tell you Claytrader, this dvd is awesome! I'm only two hours in and it's answering all of the questions I've wanted to ask a chartist. Easy to understand too. Any other newbies who follow the board...get this! (I'm a newbie) Can't wait to go forward but gonna re-watch so I can take notes. Thanks:)
Have a great week all.
Oh yeah. Member marked you for that!
As a newbie, I thought I'd found a wealth of information on the stock-specific boards. In reality, they hinder you from learning. I appreciate what you folks do!
Great call on that!
Congrats.
Compliments of 4Godnwv.
I'm a patient woman.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=26766547
GLTA.
Thank you 4Godnwv:)
Hi 4Godnwv, would you share your insights on ASII please?
Thank you:)
Thanks. Yeah he's got guts, huh?
The way I see it, I've already recovered from from the price drop here, and I want my new shares in both companies.
I've read that the only RS that wont kill a stock is when it's applied during a venture just like this.
Been here for almost a year, and I want to see it for myself.
And anyone who's riding on fear, don't bother me with comments cause I wont respond.
GLTY
Well, it's finally party time. Everyone chooses on their own now. If you believe in this stock, stay. If not, get out while you can. No more whining cause you had a choice.
I'm staying. I want to see it through. GLTA
"Be fearful when others are greedy,
be greedy when others are fearful" ~Warren Buffet~
Yeah, you got a good board here. Just marked both of you:)
Very helpful here.
yeah, gotta at least upgrade to a bass boat!
down a fortune on another play, so I'm recovering slow!
If my other play comes home, it'll be the Queen Mary for this one!! LOL
Very interesting tonight..
Tomorrow everyone!
GLTA:)
Me too (my little row-boat:)
funds next week, but I'm gonna add anyway!
I think when this happens, it's going to happen all at once.
WHAM-BAMM-BAMM.
Hold steady everyone, we all know it's almost here:) GLTA
Thats great KA12.
When we get to that point, would it be possible to get a couple of good charts in the new ibox?
Thats great news 4G, thank you:)
That'll be SO nice! Thank you for the update:)
Thank you Tony:)
Hi Tony! I'm hanging in there ~learning~, and thank you!
Yeah this is a great board, lots of good info.
(you've been a great help too:)
GLTY.
Thats exactly what I've done too. Married a few stocks, and emotion kept me in. Lessens learned hard, that'll teach me!
Thanks for everything. GLTY.
Thank you 4Godnwv. At the risk of sounding infantile, it's exciting to actually start understanding some of this:)
GLTA.
Hi everyone:)
Ok, I have a question about LDTI.
I was just reading about LDTI today on pinksheets and it's annual high was .19.
If the volume holds up and it acheives it's golden cross, would it be expected to go higher than it's annual high?
(I'm still a newbie, but I'm learning) Thanks:)
LOTS of good info today guys, thank you very much for all the sharing. Waiting for funds to settle ~again~ I have GOT to get more of this:)
I'm not worried about the dips either, this baby will come back just as strong as ever IMO
Not to mention the fact that this recent snow storm, (while it has caused hardships in the area) this will benefit the farmers growing Winter-wheat.
They've got some serious water problems.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/02/02/wchina102.xml
China wrung dry of water for thirsty Olympics
By Richard Spencer at Xidawang Reservoir, Hebei Province
Last Updated: 1:51am GMT 04/02/2008
China is planning to divert billions of gallons of water hundreds of miles from drought-stricken regions to feed Olympic development in the capital Beijing.
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Workers are struggling to finish the first phase of a huge canal to meet a surge in demand for water, fuelled by construction projects and the hundreds of thousands of athletes and visitors at the Games in August.
The project is already under attack as an expensive, makeshift attempt to counter China's environmental crisis with another environmentally damaging mega-project.
But the decision to speed up part of it before the Olympics also highlights how ordinary people are paying the price for Beijing's showpiece new buildings, along with associated lakes, fountains and gardens.
They include farmers already suffering from shrinking reservoirs that can no longer feed their irrigation systems.
Some have abandoned traditional crops such as rice, others have given up land to the desert that is encroaching on swathes of the country, and others are switching to livestock, a problem that is making the arid conditions worse.
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"I had to give up watering my land." said Dong Zhiwen, 34, a goat-herder near the edge of a deep section of canal being dug through Hebei Province to Beijing's south.
"All my land was irrigated before, and I could grow wheat," he said. "From the beginning of this year there was no water supply."
The shortage of water is one of the most visible consequences of the country's inefficient use of resources, climate change and the pressure from its growing population and booming economy.
Government figures show Beijing has water reserves of 66,000 gallons per head of population - an eighth of the Chinese average, and a thirtieth of the world average. The south-north water diversion project is the £30 billion solution.
Three enormous canal systems are planned - and two already under construction - to take water from the Yangtse in central China to the Yellow river and Beijing in the north.
"We will have to cut down water irrigation to the fields," said Miao Shunyao, an official with the Xidawang water authority.
"Those in the north of the province are already having to give up rice paddies to grow corn to cut down water."
The Xidawang reservoir is already at its lowest ever point, after constant use for irrigation and to supply the nearby major city of Baoding.
Most residents insist that the sacrifice is one they are prepared to make for the Olympics. "The Olympics are a very big event for the whole country," Mr Miao said.
But in a scathing article published in New York last month, Dai Qing, the country's most outspoken environmentalist and critic of the Three Gorges Dam, attacked the country's leaders.
"While they have created previously unknown wealth, it is a wealth made possible by the avaricious consumption of natural resources," she wrote.
I'm looking forward to getting that. Thanks for all that you do ClayTrader.
Yeah we are!!!
And it's worth mentioning that the Asian markets did great last night too! Another good sign:)
WHAT A RUSH! YAHOOOO!!!