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Anyone has any news from the girl who visited Panama. I know its someone's daughter, perhaps he could give us some news...
No big deal, you points stay the same!!!
Maybe he got confused with Daniel, who said he was selling on monday I think.
I was also surprised when I read it, but I figured he was talking about Daniel!
The way I see it is more like Paypro (or Panamersa America) is getting 30% of what the whole Panamersa group is doing down there. What we need to understand is that Panamersa group used Paypro to have a public/american face. Of course it would be better for us to get 100%, but the deal they made was, we get 30% and they use us. Thats pretty good if you think about the fact that without them we would get 0% of all this big thing and we would try to sell debit cards to individuals.
So actually, I think the 100 millions Pirates thing is also from them. Yes we do own 100% of pypr, the pypr only owns 30% of all the project down there...
Thats the way I see it, please feel free to correct/add anything to it...
I have to agree with him, it is pretty annoying, just take off the caps lock and it's going to be all fine.
If someone update the Ibox, a small description of the past of these people would help investors to trust the company, or just saying MBA beside Pedro would look a little more professional...
Just my thought
Lizard - I'm so tired of reading your post, all your trying to do is bring the stock more down. We all know this is not Apple or Microsoft, we know it's not going well, but it's a freaking SHELL...
If you're not patient enough to stay around here and find something smart to say, leave. All you've been posting today is basically that you don't like/trust/beleive in ECFL, I think we got that part. If you have nothing else to say, please leave and come back as soon as you find something interesting to say.
Dez is NOT saying to get out of the stock, I just don't understand how you guys can see it this way. He simply knows that investors don't like when the company is announcing a new merger and then for some reason they have to call it off...
My opinion is that he is tired of announcing mergers, then cancelling them and announcing something else, then having to call it off again. All he's saying is that next time we'll hear about the merger, it's because it's going to be official and most likely already on its way.
If you guys want to get out of this stock at this point, go ahead, some investors will take your shares. But there is one thing I need to say, you won't have any hint on the next merger in advance, because as soon as we hear from it, it's going to be done...
We all know what ECFL is able to give us in term of % gain once a merger is announced. Remember what it did around mid-november, this was only on speculation. Next time we move, it's for real with a real merger announced and on its way...
whats up with all the people advertising other stocks here??
Why would you say something like this in the first place?? The PR today is only showing that they want to merge with another company. They are therefore a simple shell. If he wanted to leave the country with the money he'd have done it way before, before they spent it on trying to merge...
How would you do if you were in his shoes right now, you'd have to find a company to merge with ASAP, this is what he's trying to do. He's also as tired as we are to announce a merger and then call it off, this is why he said that next time we'll only know it when it's going to be sure and all signed!
These things take a lot of time to arrange, if you don't like being a shareholder of this shell, then SELL your shares and go put your money somewhere else. Or simply stop complainning and let them do their jobs...
I know I couldn't get a 100 million loan! I really can't wait to see the Q4 results, maybe this is just a little tip on how much money they made on the 4th quarter!!! I wish I could wake up in a month!
I agree with you that something should be made about it, but I don't think an online petition is the answer here... I'm not calling you stupid, just saying, would you really consider an online petition if you'd received one and had control over what they signed???
Found on another forum...
"It is RUMORED to be finding someone to do a reverse merger with, and it was hinted at in one of their PRs that they are looking to do it. I just find it strange that someone bought 3 million shares! Does someone maybe know something? And if you look, all of Friday was buys. I have a nice stake in this with some extra cash, hoping that it does do a reverse merger, and I make a bit o' change. I am going to do some research and see how much has been bought and sold, lately, because I find it hard to believe that the MMs HAD 3 million shares to sell, but then again, maybe they did. Is anyone else on here holding and waiting for reverse merger news?"
Anyone as more information or more thoughts on the 3 million shares block they're talking about??
thats why online petition are naver taken seriously...
I don't believe it, are the Q3 relusts auditted???
You guys seem to forget that we will get a PR after today as stated in a previous PR. We will receive more info on the divy and on everything else that is going on soon...
Thats my guess, but if he's ready for all this, we might even see a PR this week!
not to the PDR holders because all these actions would be for those who did NOT receive their divvy!
Well, if you don't care about the divvy, I'll take it for you. Look what 4g said, they could give land to am organisation, then. we could do the same with our "useless" piece of land and get a tax credit for it.
Now paypro will have to decide the value of this squared meter, they already offered to sell to short brokers the land for 1000$ a meter. So lets use this value for now.
Imagine you have 100 000 shares, this would "worth" about 10 000$ of land that you can't really sell. Now lets say you also make a donation to the organisation of your 10 000$, you can probably get a tax write off of this amount, no?? I mean, not really write off, but maybe 10 000$ of your revenues won't be really "taxable".
So all of a sudden, a lot of people want this in order to save tax, and people who did not invest or did not invest enough will be willing to pay to get the PDR so they can "make a donation and save taxes". Lets say I sell my 13 meter2 for 100$ each, thats 1300$, still a REALLY high return on investment. And the buyer saves 900$ for every 100$ he invests in PDR, he's still winning. Ok, he gets too much, I'll sell them for 250$ each...
With 250$ per 10 000 shares, only the divvy would worth 0.025$ per shares. I think a lot of people will regret there choice to do not jump onto this because if the divvy only worth 0.025, whats the share worth?
I don't know at all if any of this is going to happen, I sure wish so. And I am long and strong on this one, and I can't wait to see whats the future going to bring us.
Please do not take any of my thoughts make you invest. Invest only after reading everything you can and then you'll see that there is nothing to be scared of, some people scream scam, other BS, I just think Mike Terrell is a smarth guy who knows how to grow money and companies... Its only my thoughts, but can someone actually go over all this and tell me if I made any mistakes??
Thanks
long read I guess!!
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https://www.otcstockinfo.com/repository/612745/612745_FR19.pdf
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I've been reading on the majority of the transaction of this company and I actually like where we are in the devellopement of the company.
One thing I want to point out on the reading.
"Accountant:
Gordon Jones
J&J Consultants, LLC
1393 Bennett Circle
Farmington, UT 84025
Mr. Gordon Jones is an experienced S.E.C accountant with over 20 years experience as an S.E.C auditor for companies throughout the world. His firm J & J Consultants provides the issuer GAAP accounting reports each quarter and an annual financial report."
The more I read about this one, the more I like it...
Read this for a better understanding of where the company currently is.
https://www.otcstockinfo.com/repository/612745/612745_FR19.pdf
When the dividend is paid, if you are eligible for it, it will be received into your account.
Wow, way to do not answer to a question. You should really call them...
I think that the next good PR will only be released after the 20th.
If a pr comes on the weekend, I'll be really happy because I won't wait for one!
Something is supposed to be clarified after the dividend. All the other times that I see someone say we'll have a PR today, and then the next day, well the PR is going to be today... Still nothing (happens in ECFL, and nothing if founded).
But Mike stated in a PR that more information will be released after the dividend, hopefully by the end of next week as I want to be rich this chrismas (haha)
Problem is that if they drop it lower, I'll think about buying again...
I don't see why we care that much about the Authorized shares, I think the outstanding shares are a little more important in this case, no??
Start/Run/Calc/enter
here's a calculator
thats why the company asks that every shareholder contact their broker to make sure they are on the NOBO list so they can get the dividend. Paypro will then get the results from every broker so they can then send us (legit shareholders) our dividend...
kind of long answer
I think that all the "new shares" in the market are from investors that had this stock from a long time, and now start to see all these PRs coming out and then start to look at every step of PYPR. A lot of investors invest then stop looking because they trusted the company (much more often it happens with big companies for as long time investment). But we can't deny the fact that the same could happen to a company like Paypro.
So my explanation of what is going on, the supply is indeed supported by way to many investors. But this "rush" of investors in only due to the fact that there are(was) way too many shares outstanding (and authorized). As I can see, Mr Terrel knows it and with today's PR we can see that he is doing something about.
Add this to the fact that a lot of people are selling because the stock is not moving, but in fact, them selling is only supporting a little more the supply of the stock, not the demand.
So with less shares, all these good PRs comming out, the dividend, the revenues, the profit... This really can't go anywhere else than up in the medium and long run.
Supply and demand, logic and revenues will bring it back up on the long run...
I believe we could easy work WITH the MMs on this one.
Here how I see it. If I was to short the stock, thats how id do it. Looking at the stock, we can see that buyers are scared of this stock eventhough it has a lot of good PR suporting it. MMs know it and they short it to hell and then recover, hence they're making money of it.
I am also certain than MMs know how to ride a big gain in PPS... They wouldn't miss it. I just put a sell order of a little less than 40% of my total investment for 0.008 (I know, too high for now, but I had nothing to lose). If a lot (I mean, a lot) of investors would do just like me, it would show the MMs that this stock is ready to fly, so they could change their situation, buy back A LOT of shares (more than they need to recover so they become "long". All their buyings would bring the volume needed and the attention (hence momentum) to the stock. They could then become even with selling back on top of it, so their problem would be solved (they recovered), our problem is solved (we now have a more logistic PPS) and most of us make money and are more confidend.
Everybody is now happy and have a great christmas time..
Ok, this is my fairy tail of the day. I am not in this market since 10 years or am I a professional, but I think I see this clearly. Tell me what you think about it, no bashing, just comments that may help the cause please. Thanks!
1 year chart
Was just looking at the 1 year chart and what we are doing right now is just getting ready for the huge gain. Just like we did early october. History always repeats itself and really soon the shorts and/or MM will be forced to buy which will make the littel spark we need to wake this MONSTER!
All my opinion, but to me, it looks right!
aren't we now at 0.0026??
Since when Micheal Jackson is credible when it relies to the stock market???
I am with TD Waterhouse and had no problem whatsoever with buying yesterday. Bought 100k at 0.0025 and it went through really fast.
It means there is more people who think it it coming today than there is who believe it's not!!!
You really think that one company have control over 75% of the buyers???
I am convinced that with all the brokers out there they do not have more than 10% (estiamted)! Someone has real numbers?
I love what we see here, buyers confidence is back up, so is the PPS...
I agree with the fact that Ameritrade is cutting the buying, but I wouldn't say that half of the people can't buy. I really doubt Ameritrade controls 50% of the buyers. (They'd be freakin' rich!!!)
I think people are actually just scaring each other and bringing the price down themselves. (I exclude myself because I just read and post neutral information)
what we have right now is plenty of good news (more than we could wish for usualy) and some people scared of buying because the price is not going up, so tey buy as low as they can. Sellers getting tired of waiting (remember, this was a long buy, nothing to get you rich in 1 day). So the tired sellers get rid of their shares and new buyers buy.
Since nothing moves, and no other GREAT news come out, people start saying ITS A SPAM, I TOLD YOU, YOU SEE NOTHING MOVES! If we'd just all relax and give more time to the company to get a straight plan we'd see great result. People complaint that the price go down, if noones ready to sell at this price, the price wont be sold at this price.
If this would all be a scam, we'll find out about it (even if it's next year) and Mike terrel would be in deep trouble himself (face prison charges + will have to give back a lot of money).
So what I think, this guy will fight to bring our PPS up, but all we gotta do is wait and have a little faith.
Doesn't he own 6.5 Billion???
TD waterhouse CANADA
Janette, send me your email in a private message please. Thanks
Is this the company "we've" been dealing with??
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