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I have always called B.S. on this. (Not that it mattes for Patent Infringement cases) 1st they (Calypso) have never shown the actual existence of a piece of software in any form such as a screenshot etc...
For this to be possible the software would have to register back to some kind of a session controller and etc.... such as a GIPS engine or ICM.
And secondly for "ANY" Voice Application running on an un-jailbroke (meaning normal)IPhone the application will not run in the background. Only IPhone apps will natively run in the background. So the software is only active (able to receive and make calls) when it is currently running.
Also the battery life on an Iphone stinks. I have one a 3GS. Love the thing but hate the battery life. I charge at my desk, car, and nightstand. I have chargers everywhere. And I keep Bluetooth off for the most part because that makes a bad situation a nightmare.
Now the conjecture is that on 4.0 version of the OS for IPhone, background applications will be possible. I hope they come up with a backgrounder budget. Meaning they find ways to allow only a certain amount of applications to run in the background.
There are a lot of SIP stacks that work across IPhone now and actually and lot's more coming.
Can't wait for tommorrow :)
I guess according to others the other day tommorrow the stock will rise by .977 all the way the $1.
It will be a great day :)
I jest of course but wish it were true. I have not posted in forever and will continue to watch and wait, but the filings look good.
But court filings are just that. Until there is a favorable outcome it is just a filing.
Keep your fingers crossed. It would be nice.
I wonder how far the stock would have risen if Acacia deal had been done back when it was reported? No sense in pondering at this point though.
Biscuit
What Mountain is that in your Signature?
Dave what are the possibilities to revisit the Acacia Deal now?
Is it even plausible? I know you were very much against it back in the day but may be a good way to put some money in the coffers and have someone really defend the patent.
Curious if this is even something that would be considered?
Robert Leon.....
Does he still own stock in the company?
I am in!!
I had posted the link. it is under Social Networking. And the only way I know of to add any App is through the App store.
Here is the link....
http://www.skype.com/download/skype/iphone/
Here is the Itunes URL...
http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=304878510&mt=8
Correct. Once the machine goes into sleep or lock after a few the apps shut down.
They are supposed to enable the ability for Background Apps in the future. So you can be for instance web browisng and Skype running inthe background (MultiTasking right) and then if a call comes in it could pop tothe front.
As it sits now once you go to ANY other app Skype shutsdown. That is not a Skype limitation but rather an IPhone Lockdown thing.
Nope.... I don't want to. You can go to the Itunes and download the App for free if you have an IPhone or ITouch.
Here is the link....
http://www.skype.com/download/skype/iphone/
Here is the Itunes URL...
http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=304878510&mt=8
Oh... BTW... i still would like to see the piece of software that was touted as Asnap on the IPhone.
Funny. Never seen anywhere other than a blurb on the old website. Truth or not.... I vote not.
FYI... Verified Skype -- IPhone -- Does not run in background
I just downloaded it. It was already in teh Apps store. And as i suspected on a non jailbreaked (legal) phone it will not run in the background.
Sent chats, made a call. Worked fine.
Started chatting again. clicked the Home key (only button on front of phone) and it stopped working.
So it logs out. this is not a limitation of the App but rather the way Apple locks these phones down tighter all get out. it should be changed over the next year when they are supposed to open up the phone a little more.
IPhone is cool, but until they allow other applications to run in teh background like this it is hard to use.
I have used Fring which is quite good actually. it has a SIP stack so you could natively connect to a system like Avaya or Cisco natively.
BUT>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is only active when you activate it. Once you go to email the app is again off line.
That is of course unless you jailbreak the phone, which I am not wanting to do. So I am curious if apple is going to allow this App to stay active int he background.
I understand that they are opening the door wider in the future.
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Posted by: John Winston Date: Monday, November 12, 2007 12:02:12 PM
In reply to: bayonetcharge who wrote msg# 29775 Post # of 33136 [Send a link via email]
Let Me Put It This Way
Drago Daic Will Eventually
Own Calypso And All Of The
Worthless Patents By Default
And All Of The Worthless Shares
Will Remain Worthless And Become
Even More Worthless
That's Just The Way It Is
And All Of The Little Circular
Questions In The World Will Not
Change These Facts... It's Over
There Is Not A Judge Or Jury In The
World That Will Side With Calypso ,
Especially After All The Lies And
Deliberate Deception That Has Been
Played Out Over The Past Four Years
Over And Over Again Proving The Lack
Of Character, Integrity And Honesty
That Calypso Has Failed To Offer
You See, Calypso Is The Bad Guy
Calypso Has Proved A Factual History Of
Nothing But Grand Lies And Deception That
Has Resulted In Absolutely Nothing, With No
Explanation From Anyone Other Than :
" Well, That Was The Old Management "
Which I'm Afraid Gentlemen... Is Just Not Good Enough !
Daic Wins . . . And . . . Calypso Loses
If Calypso Wants To Pay Off Daic To Keep Him Quiet ,
It's Only To Keep The Scam Going... And Daic Wins
If Calypso Goes To Court, The Jig Is Up And Calypso
Will Be In A Heap Of Trouble, And The Company Will
Be Destroyed... Daic Wins Again
It's Just The Way It Is
Daic Is Always In Control
J W --- J M H O
I guess i am trying to say that why would anyone not want this to have really worked out.
Everyone would have made a lot of money.
But what does he stand to gain? If he the company di acutally have something legitimate business wise.
Would that not have legitimately made the stock, shareholders, etc... money.
Why does it matter who controls the Patent as long as it is Calypso's and something is actually being done with it.
What good does it do anyone at this point for the company to be int eh shape it is. We have a invalid Law suit it seems because we do not own the Patent. We are not even operating anymore at this point right?
It is all over I guess. And one wins. Drago can;t realistically even have much gain now. No one would do business with this littel dramatic company anymore. And the Patent is not Calypso's.
So I guess Drago robbed the company of the Patent and he is now going to defend it himself and try to prosper. In the end he will not prevail and EVEYONE has lost out on a good opportunity.
There was a real chance to do something. But that was pissed away.
but Greed is to have money right? Even being Greedy who in there right mind could ever possibly think that what HAS taken place is better than what could have taken place?
The fact that the company "supposedly" actually had legitimate options and no one took it is crazy. (Not saying that did not happen just stupid that someone would let it happen.
Those guys would have been filthy stinking rich and making money now. Time is Money right?
I can't understand why anyone would have thought this was a better plan. It was NO plan.
"Let's just say that when we are done with them, they will never be able to practice their trades anymore, and the patent will be distributed fairly between all stakeholders including Daic."
Okay... So I thought DAIC was part of them. Who are you refering too? DeWine?
Who are the willing participants to this fiasco and why did they do it? What was theri motivation. And don;t say GREED.
There had to be some reason why someone would sabotage what appeared to be legitimate activity with Acacia and others like the legitimate Lawyers.
correction. To be exact.. I have lost...
-55,897.33 at this particular point in time.
Where is CT and AV?
Where are these guys now? Has anyone actually talked to them in a while? Where are the saviors and Sharma etc...
I thoguth the whole team was abo to come back...
What ever happened to the Baxter patents?
So what will they do now?
Form a new company and put the Patent in there and try this all over again?
IF THIS EVER HAD A LEGITIMATE CHANCE..... I don;t know why they would try to sabotage any chances of Calypso really taking off.
If this had been done properly those in charge would have been filthy stinking rich. There is NO plausible explanation for drama other than it was as bennitto said all a long. A Sham/Scam from day one.
Why would people keep propping this thing up? Were they scammed, disillusioned, etc??
Funny how the orator of Upsidedown has gone quiet. He is most certain the goober (Pattin or DD) that has been trying to run a lot of this. Spin Spin volumes of words, shiny objects to try to disctract, etc...
What did any of them have to gain by this? Control of the Patent. With each day the Patent is less and less valuable. With each Soap Opera drama that goes on here the more that everyone will see this as purely comical.
I do not think ANYONE out there in the REAL world has ever taken anything about Calypso seriously. Menaing the companies that we supposedly were supposed to original sell ASNAP, Cell Phones, WLAN APs (stil laugh at that one), etc... too.
I believe we tried to tak ourselves too seriously, and the guys that ran the company all along were just looking for ways to keep emplyed. So they conned others into continualy pumping this all up.
DWHCO, DROY, etc..... As a part of the deals that you guys out of your own pockets did... Were you never given any control or portionof control over the Patent?
Let's face it guys. The patent is completely gone. No reason DD will ever concede it to Calypso at this point. It is clear these guys have NO Ethics and deserve to Reap what they sowed. There are some low life scums out there of course. Guys like this are lie Grave Robbers, stealig money form littel old ladies, etc....
They have no conscious etc... If Draic has ANY ounce of decency and integrity he would have setup the Patent back to Calypso, brought inteh outside people that CT had to get things going, Acacia etc....
I totally question the authenticity of any rumour that has ever been generated by Calypso.
Some of you guys really believed in thsi and put your life and money behind it. It is really a shame.
I lost about 45k - 50k myself in it. nice huh?
there never was a sky to fall... Chicken Little is us screaming the sky is falling, but the sky is gone.
this turd stinks.
Where does this now stand that the 60 days is up?
If they would just do the right thing everyone would have benefited.
I think it is entirely too late for this company to ever really matter at this point.
Other than getting lucky on the patent trolling.....
There is nothing else left.
"his presence makes this company worthless
until proven otherwise"
AGREED
"you DO have to trust Diac WILL live up to his responsibilities and NOT engage in self dealing at shareholders expense"
What at all gives you any indication he is actually doing ANYTHING in the shareholders best interest. This company is worse off than it has EVER been.
There is practically no hope of any kind at this point for present shareholders.
WHY does he continue to block anything that would possibly be considered a legitimate deal? Acacia???? etc....
Why would anyone seriously not do this the right way? Is he that greedy? The longer this drama goes on the crazier it is.
I believe benitto was totally right. There has never been anything legit about this company.
My significant number of shares stand in proof that this is just utterly unbelievable. I am about ready to do a dump.
Care to expand on that????
I have also always wondered what the benefit is and has been to anyone to screw all this up?
There is not upside for anyone if we do not do the right things.....
new owner? huh i did not think they owned the publicly traded company. Maybe we don't actually own anything anymore?
oh yea i bet the other calypso corporation actually owns everything and we just have stock in aa shell corporation with nothing?
where is christian?
next week :)
Where are the other Law Suits?
What is the status of the current one?
We KNOW there are fully functional infringing implementations popping up all over the place now... so continuing to question the technical merits is more than a tad ludicrous.
Tad Ludicrous is that CLYW has not really documented by showing any tangible evidence that there really is a product that was developed.
Don't mistake that the Infingement is being done using someone else product they may have developed that uses The same methodolgy of the CLYW Patent. Methodology is different than a product.
If Calypso wants to go to TRIAL they have to have a product and not just a piece of paper or PR. I have from the start of posting here stated that CLYW should show via screenshot or other that a product does indeed exist.
There is no question that the Patented Method looks to be in violation and is starting to be defended.
But again there are two elements here. 1) The Patent and secondly 2) a Product.
You cannot trial a Patent.
Field Trial Agreemnts is using a technology not a patent right?
Are we certain that Calypso does have a product (as is claimed) or is it jus the "Method" which is the Patent.
I hope for the former. But again have never seen any evidence like screenshots from a mangaement console, shots of the ASNAP client ona phone, etc... As is common in the Technology industry.
Writing about having a technology and not showing the technology are two different things.
But I am sure the downside up will try ot say i am wrong here. I really don't care.
I am not even wasting my time reading a long diatribe of pure nonsense.
That is a Tree in front of you. And yes there is a Forest behind it.
You are way out there you know?
Long winded and long in the tooth actually.
If the thing doing the signaling is directly attached to their network (even if the device is VPNed in)then there is no seemless switching.
The device doing the "switching" is the Class 5 switch the carier has back on teh network. Therefore they may be using a foreign transport but hte "Method" used is that hte switch never loses state of the call. The Femto Cell AP basically exstends the switching ability of the Core Switch out in the persons house.
T-Mobile does nto use Femto Cell and actually is "Switching" from GSM to VoIP across WLAN to the carrier. So the carrier may be the termination point but something literally has to switch the call from GSM to a SIP (For example) based VoIP call to the Class 5 switch.
Since the networks the switch is using is seperate then there is actually a "Method" by which the call is having to look at resources and determnine an alternative path to transport. Therefore FMC is in the middle of this.
With GSM (FemtoCell) being an exstension of the carrier network (regardless of who owns the assest) how can this be considered FMC?
Question I have is was T-Mobile firsthand involved with this? Or did someone get a T-Mobile device and use it with ASNAP independent of T-Mobile involvement.
If they were involved that would be very convenient.
Again I should have read your post as well.
The Call never leaves their network and licensed spectrum.
I disagree. You sayig this is FMC is in essence the same as saying all Carriers that handoff from one cell site to another are infringers.
The call never leaves their network. They simply put a Femtocell AP (for lack of better term) that would VPN back int othe Carrier network. So it in essence looks just like a cell site to cell site handoff.
DWHCO is right in that focusing on abvious infringers is the way to go.
Yep... Should have read your post before respondig myself.
Should nto be. If it is using Femto Cell technology it is a GSM to GSM handoff. Or technically a GSM exstension into the home.
I have not looked at the product but Femto is using Native GSM frequencies across an IP network back to the carrier. SO it would not technically be FMC. IBecause it is really like having a GSM antenna extended into your home.
Hope that makes sense...
Spoke too soon. My browser showed old stuff.
i thoght no one had posted about the Patent Infringment,