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re: "min gap up $-1.00 when you want a max gap down of $1.00"
So if I set min gap down of $-1.00, I get a max gap up of $1.00?
This is so not confusing, not. <g>
I think I get that the neg input apparently inverts the function as well as the data polarity. Thanks I guess I have something to play around with some more.
By the way, still missing triggers sometimes on some stocks.
EFJI on Monday this time. I suspect it might be due to picking up bad data over the weekend due to calender days which spoils trigger for ensuing monday? I will try to verify that TI is more reliable during the week for past x days related alerts.
Many STE quotes go bonkers after the markets close and sometimes I will see phantom trades flicker over the weekends on some stocks, usually with bid and ask going to the extremes.
Just a theory.
Per the other poster, I too would like to use TI to detect OTC stocks. (someday?)
Gap Question
I found the "minimum gap up" and "minimum gap down filter" setting,but, let's say, I don't like gaps. Investor's delight is often the trader's nightmare. A stock that gaps and then flatlines is worthless to a trader. I'd prefer not to have to wade through them.
How do I set TI to filter out stocks that gap (either way)?
e.g. I don't see a "maximum gap up" filter setting.
$25,000 per vehicle ?!!
re: "The EPA rules were changed in 2002 making a requirement of testing on 300 cars (at $25,000 per car, that’s a total of $7,500,000 and taking a period of at least 18 months). "
Wow. When I was in NJ years ago, the emmision test involved sticking a probe up the cars exhaust pipe and a guy reading a meter. It took less than five minutes.
Who gets the $25,000? Is it an EPA fee? Somebody's brother-in-law at the EPA? And to think some people are worried about corruption in foreign contries!
How does one becoma a tester? What a racket. I think that I could spare a few minutes each day to test cars at $25,000 a pop.
There was a good documentary on TV (PBS?) a few weeks ago about a company called Lustron in the fifties. Like ethanol, their sudden market oppurtunity came about due to a government agency mandate, in this case to "encourage" affordable and easily built houses instead of the similar present mandate of encouraging alternate fuels.
The poor Lustron CEO guy, one day, turned down demands by somebody's "buddy" at the government agency to send business their way and the final straw was evidently refusing to make a large politcal campaign contribution. So the poltical appointess at the agency "pulled the plug" on him.
Here, it's a case of the letter of the law contradicting the spirit of the law.
Hedge fund(s) dumping? It wouldn't take avery big hedge fund to slam the share price if they suddenly got cold feet on crude price downtick. A lot of the wieird moves in thinly traded issues could be explained by "hot" money wielders suddenly losing their taste for specualtion or shifting cash elsewhere. A lot of mysterious surges could simularly be the same sort of money rushing back in when sentiment chages the other way. In other words, not so much about SOIGF but external or only loosely related market influences. I don't know...
SOIGF listed $6 million as stock based compensation in recent 10Q, but I wonder if that merely refers to their recent 50% expansion of holdings/acquisition, which, theoretically would be a good thing. It does make the bottom line look bad (losses)..
http://biz.yahoo.com/e/061109/bucy10-q.html
If so one would think it would have happened right after 10-Q...
But that is old news from Nov. 9
Definately an unpleasant surprise move in pps.
If it was compensation to individuals, maybe one or more of them is (unwisely) cashing (too fast) in on open market. SOIGF apparently has around 10,000 brl / day production of (thick flowing) oil, not tar sand, which makes them better than many purely tar sand plays.
Some of these small co.s hand out stock payments to employees, consultants, vendors, in leiu of cash,one might suppose that someone liquidating would happen if the shares weren't restricted.
Hard to say, take a look at recent fin report. What would you say big chunk of stock for compensation refer to? The acquisition of additional lands or basic payouts to individuals?
re: CAAS
re: "Are you looking for these surges in the pre-market?"
No. Just looking for new daily high after start of regular session. In regard to the "surge" remark" I was just making a characterization about the nice upward price movement.
re: "We have specific alerts for the pre-market that should be used."
OK. But not what I am after right now.
re: " However the best way to see what's wrong with your configuration is to paste it in a post for us to see. Let's start from there."
OK. Here is configuration used:
Basically all it should contain is new high $ 3 days
http://www.trade-ideas.com/View.php?O=1_19_0&QNHP=3&WN=nh3&SL=1372889550
To test,
Set time frame to:
end 11/13/2006 5:28:08 pm
start 11/13/2006 12:00:00 am
Create a symbol list containing CAAS
Called mine "china" currently has CYD,CAAS,EFUT,CLWT
As with Monday in real time, new high for CAAS doesn't seem to be detected, although the new highs for the others are.
As of Tuesday afternoon (today) CAAS appears to have started working again, although I now have days field set to 1. Whereas on a Monday I set to 3 so as to work off of Friday's previous high.
CAAS: Dang, it happened again (!?)
Monday 11-13-2006
A bunch of China stocks made a terrific surge today for some reason, CYD, CLWT, EFUT, including CAAS
Unfortuneately TI seems to have missed my "watch" stock of the group,CAAS. It is a Nasdaq stock. Seem to have an "invisible" situation similar to a stock I previously reported.
I have CAAS in a sym list, reset alert to 1 day high from 3 day high, no other filters = nothing. Added CYD, efut, they show up...
Thanks for the leads, enhanced wants to reload over my existing setup so this has prompted me to do some file maint and I will also be doing a monitor upgrade etc... Will check out soon once i get some of these other items done (between trading and stock research)...
But right now have a more pressing matter which I will cover in a seperate post CAAS (to follow)...
OT: biofuel
There isn't a lot more to say about XLPI just now other than I hope they will be volume ready w/flextech when the time comes.
re: Nova Biofuel permit
Yes, I've been in and out of this one (when it was still NVAO).
Still watching it. They may well do OK.
Having done a bit of ongoing research into alt fuels, one thing I get out of it and to also consider is byproducts (this would also apply to ethanol, though different byproducts and process).
The thing with bio-diesel is that when they make it, they end up with a lot of glycerin as a byproduct that they don't know what to do with. A glycerin glut is developing.
I noticed the surge in CMT (plastics) recently before it occured to me that a chief use of glycerin is in the production of polyester resin which is a key component of fiberglass. Apparently, CMT makes fiberglass products.
Now, all we need to do is find as-yet relatively undiscovered users of ae byproducts that should theoretically enjoy reduced input costs = increased profits = increased pps, as biofuel ae ramps up.
Anyone have any (further) ideas?...
Summary Window FR (Feature Request) #3
How about this? In addition to the scrolling alert window, have available, a window that accumulates triggered alerts. Its operation could be envisioned as follows:
First alert trigger of the day stock x appears at the top, first alert for stock y appears in the slot below it. A second alert triggers for stock x. Stock x display remains in its slot but the count (and other relevent data for stock x) gets updated only. This would continue for as many stocks and alerts such as would occur.
Advantages would be condensing the massive volume of alerts into a readily viewable form and be spared from the dilemna of enduring too many alerts flying by rather than risk omitting info as with count limits. Also, an item would stand still long enough to click on it correctly to bring up a chart, etc.
Additionally, it would be nice if column heading could be clicked on to put list in order, e.g. alphabetical name, counts, etc. To reiterate one of my previous suggestiona, a nice complement for trigger price field would be a percent (and/or) $ change from initial or last trigger (if/as appropriate for type of alert).
The little column mini-charts are cute but it is a little like trying to find your house on a map of the world. I wouldn't miss them if you needed to take them out to make room, though I suppose it's possible that someone somewhere might use them. The daily is really for what, one or two monthes. A condensed intra-day 1 or 5 minute increment chart might be more useful.
I haven't yet figured out how the horizontal age/range bar thingies could be useful for or what they actually purport to represent. <g>
Well, just some thoughts.
ethanol related
MIT Researchers Work to Boost Automotive Fuel Efficiency by 30%
Brandon Hill (Blog) - October 27, 2006 10:48 AM
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4719
re:"If XLPIs bird flu product.." Your're kidding, right?
Tell me you're kidding... Good Gawd
Could lack of managerial focus be an issue here?
And after seeing his picture, there's something familiar, dare I say, eerily familiar (well, it is Holloween <g>).
I remember coming across a another pinksheet company a while back that was maybe going to use waste to try to make plastic or somesuch. Has a picture of the ceo. I could be wrong but I wonder if it is the same guy? Couid be still in my notes somewhere. A very small note. At the time I had him categorized with the DIGG guy. Actually more like the eco-green company whose sole assets consisted of a pole barn, tire shredder, and pile of old tires. At least they had assets and sales as fuel for a cement kiln. I don't know if you've ever seen tires burn, but "eco-friendly" doesn't come to mind. <g>
I don't know. Confidence factor is not exactly soaring right now. I just wish they would acknowledge what isn't working, cut their losses on the failed "retail shelves" fiasco, and other dead ends, to stop wasting resources, and concentrate on what shows the greatest market potential (Flextek) before the opportunity is squandered. The magic additive to protect seals has a shot but only if they get brand recognition and market entry from which Flextech provides the ticket.
Ah, yes, let's drop everything and go for the bird flu market. It's not like there is any competition. Yeah.. right.
Well, if it goes to .0001, we could all get together, pitch in our lunch money and buy out the co., let's see 300,000,000 shares = $30,000 <g> ...Assuming he doesn't resort to toxic financing. That's the only upside to the dilution at the moment.
re: "...calendar days.." Ah that explains a lot. Thanks.
Things are looking a lot more reliable now. Now I'm afraid I feel a bit inspired to ask: DOES IT MENTION THIS IN THE HELP FILE?
Hopefully getting this straight on new highs/lows now.
Blank is new highs or lows for today, don't care about other days
1 day is higher or lower than yesterday's high (or low). Unless it is a Monday in which case I need to put 3 days to pick up Friday's high or low. For a 2 day high on a Tuesday I simply have to count back, let's see, Mon=1, Sun=2, Sat=3, Fri=4, so 4 days would be from Friday...
Piece of cake. <g>
Looks like days arg not being recognized
per my last msg.
Moreover, just clicked on chart for IMMC 12:07 pm
"Quality" column in alert shows 2 days..clearly didn't hit 2 day high, so maybe taking arg but, I don't know, something doesn't seem to be working with whatever function looks back?
Actually the other alerts with low day counts don't seem right either...
I don't know. Think I'll be trading in "manual" mode for a while today.<g>
sym lists ok now thanks but
Still experiancing a bit of strangeness this morning. I have alerts set for 2 day highs only it's telling me that XING,MDS,QLGC (spot check)have 2 day highs which isn't the case on charts. Only a few of those displayed have actual 2 day highs.
STE/TI Symbol Lists Stopped Updating
ST was offline around 3am Sat Night. Don't know if they did something or is it my sys? Have a symbol list named test, deleted test from STE and made a new one "test1", TI still shows the old one named "test". Just as well I guess I needed to get more sleep <g>...
Still doesn't seem to be working Sun afternoon here though either. The old sym lists that I had already in there seem to still work though...
Anybody else having same problem?
Oops never mind about BLUD
Had the wrong chart up (minor mental burnout). In way that still underscores my point somewhat, it's easy to forget what one is looking at while flinging chart after chart up. Having the price there in the alert would help one keep things straight mentally.
apologies and thanks
re: ..will soon introduce what we call 'cascading alerts'
Super! Really looking forward to that!
thanks
re: column price trigger stamp sugg
re: "...can determine the price from which the alert triggered by noting the time stamp of the alert and then viewing the same time on a ST ELITE chart."
Yes, of course, and I do that. And with window linking is relatively fast, however...
Dial up (which is to say, select) 1 day high alert, filter 5 count, then set history to start at 9:30 am for today (10-27).
Look at the alerts for BLUD. Between 9:34 am and, well 9:34 am, within that same 1 minute interval all 5 counts got used up.
Count Field Value:
1. 9:34 AM New High +0.01
2. 9:34 AM New High +0.01
3. 9:34 AM New High +0.04
4. 9:34 AM New High +0.03
...
5. 9:34 AM New High +0.01
>>This implies that we are up +0.10
Looking at STE chart (1 minute intervals last 7 hrs - max resolution for today, unfortuneately, this degree of STE intraday chart resolution is only available working back from present, won't be able to see after monday, but anyway..)
One minute candle for BLUD shows
BLUD 9:34 10/27
Open 31.48
High 31.49
Low 31.44
Close 31.46
Not only are we not up +0.10 we are actually down 2 cents. I'm curious what is going on there.
Going with a car driving metaphor, sometimes an idiot light for engine overtemperature is good enough, but sometimes you want a temperature gauge to get a better idea of what is going on with the engine. Ditto with an RPM tachometer, or perhaps more aptly, theoretically, all you really need is a low fuel indicator light but we may all agree that it'sit's nice to have an actual fuel gauge.
This suggests an idea for, brace yourself <g>, another feature/improvement. How about adjustable sensitivity for hi/low limit alerts, $0.01 could still be the default, but it could be handy to be able to set 0.02, or 0.05, whatever.
Time is the other variable, and while we have 5 min and 10 min, several fixed selections in rather steeply increasing time increments. I'd like to be able to override those to say, have 1 minute, 2 minute, 7 minute under certain circumstances.
Being able to select Moving averages for x ticks/minutes could be an additional option/approach to the threshold control issue.
Alert/Filter/Alert Feature Request #2
This probably would be a massively difficult one to try to implement but let me outline my thoughts just the same.
In the faqs you (TI) elucite(s) the following:
"..in general it is not meaningful to combine two or more alert types with an and. Alert types, unlike filters, are events which _occur instantaneously_. "
Well, I agree, to a point. But wouldn't it be immensely useful if we acknowledge that what the user is trying to do is detect a unique event that follows another special event for a given stock? What I want is analgeous to a progressive sort algorithm . I don't want alert#1 and #2 simultaneously, but, _sequentially_. Like, trying to sort name and date simultaneously is generally not useful, but sorting name _and then_ date is.
In a typical scenerio for one scheme I sometimes try, I look for stocks that surge at the open then fall off before resuming a climb. For example, today, this morning at 9:30 I detected a new 1 day high for CRZO, CVNS, AHM, ESIO . From the charts one can see that those are not ideal entry points (to say the least). What I want from that point is a trailing stop to try to get near the bottom of the potential mid-morning dip.
But the trailing stop alerts are triggering like crazy for stocks I'm no longer interested in at the moment. I have to try to remember which ones just hit the opening high.
Now, the "running up", "x-min high", and "trailing stop" alerts are theoretically useful for catching this, but, here agin, if I set counts too low to restrict the deluge, I might miss the one I want.
I improved my situation by "taking my eyes off the road", to hastily type in a symbol list with just those, then select that list on the filter page, reset some new alert types, up the count filter, check history in case I missed something...
I would like to be able to automatically cascade alerts and filters to produce a progressively smaller list of stocks that "fall out" over time. Ie.
1. Filter initial criteria
2. First tier alerts provide filter list output out to second tier alerts.
3. Second tier alerts operate only on list updated from #2.
Theoretically, the refining process could continue with more tiers, but just a second alert/filter tier would be quite a useful improvement and automate what I am attempting to do by hand ( & mentally).
2a. Being able to set individual count limit criteria for each alert type might help toward this end as well. Not quite the same thing but perhaps easier to add initially. (hmm why not both)
re:"...count column/filter:" Feature request (#1)
I'd like to be able to have a column showing the price that the alert triggered at. This would be useful for "debugging" a stragety and also allow mental filtering of bad prints (false triggers) as they fly by.
Doesn't seem like it would be too hard to add this option to the "columns" menu, along with the available icon, time, symbol, etc. selections.
Looking them over.. Gee, why would I ever want to turn off "symbol"? Oh, I see. I just tried it. If I turn it off and on again, symbol moves to the end of the display. So the order I check them determines the display order. ok.
As I continue to spend countless hours w/TI I intend to try to post things like this as they come up (before I forget <g>) seems like numbering them into a kind of list might help future reference.
re: "...no hyperlinks on symbols in alerts and no alert action options..."
Hi. I'm relatively new to TI also. It's funny, before reading your message I hadn't tried the links yet. Just did now. Pretty handy actually.
I just clicked on the "Linker" menu in TI main window and selected quotes and chart window via the ">>" selector. Now when I click on a stock symbol in the TI list of alerts that comes up, I get a chart for and it also appears in my quote list. Seems to work pretty good for me. One point is that you apparently need to have a window already open of the type you want to link to.
For example, Level II didn't appear as a linking option on the left side until I had opened a Level II window in Scottrade Elite. Then clicked on the "linker" menu heading in TI.
Afraid I don't know what you mean by "action alert options" though. I've had this fantasy of generating trade orders automatically from a perfectly debugged strategy setup but,of course that would be pretty tricky and scary in real life. I don't know of any software so far that allows one to translate alerts from various sources into scottrade orders. Do you? I envision perhaps writing my own program someday perhaps starting with a small seperate test (cash only) account for development purposes. As far as what "actions alert options" really are, hopefully the TI person will be around to shed a bit more light eventually...
I'm relieved that I hadn't driven you off or something with too much nitpicking.
Also feeling honored now. I don't think I've ever had an anomaly named after me!
I plan on spending many many more hours going through everthing. There is a lot there. Obviously I'm just scratching the surface here. Your servers must be awsome considering all the data they crunch through so quickly.
So hopefully you won't mind then, if I continue to post questions, findings and/or possible suggestions or "wish-list" items as they may turn up...
Hello, are you still there?
Was it something I said?
Shareholder Meeting Attendees
Unfortuneately I don't own enough XLPI stock to justify a 1000 mile trip to Virginia though I still hold enough to "feel the pain".
If anyone here goes to the meeting, here are some suggestions for questions to forward to Bill or his representives pertaining to his business plan, which, after reading the latest PR, I think, needs work.
"The sales goal was based on 2nd quarter Flextek sales growth and on contract negotiations to put Lubrilon products on the shelves of over one thousand major retail stores."
Question: Why isn't XLPI pursuing the obvious huge wide open market of FlexTek installation by third party drive-in lube centers instead of futilely expending resources to try to penetrate retail stores whose shelves are already saturated with oil and cleaning products?
Has XLPI made any ovatures to major lube-center central offices yet? Have any small independant oil change centers been approached with a FlexTek distributer or concession deal?
If Jiffy Lube, Magpie et al can install windshield wipers and EGR valves, they already have the employee skills and perfect setup to make 15 minute FlexTek installation/sales. The hood of the customer's car is already open and waiting.
Since XLPI is obviously low on money why not consider sending a travelling Flextek sales and training person around to lube centers in just one ot two E85 states like Minnesota or S. Dakota?
In regard to branded liquids, would it not be prudent to concentrate initially on a key E85 protective additive packaged in a small bottle analgeous to "Slick-50" to conserve process, storage and transporation costs? Plus, lube centers could then easiliy make a pitch for adding that little bottle of "crucually needed magic stuff" right next to the FlexTek kit at the time of sale.
Lube centers already have too many oil brands to push. The niche is still open for E85 related additive sales by them though.
I could go on and on, but, hopefully you get the idea...
re:"..Hello CLYP again. First seller on the ask .006"
Sounds like you have LEV II. Where does one go to get Level II for XLPI? I have Level II on scott but it doesn't show order book for pink or OTC's. Would be nice ...
Oh, wait...Or was that just time & sales?
re:"invisible" stock COA
re:"..Please post the strategies you are using or let us know your username."
Well, the TI window comes right up automatically on menu click just like Level II or Totalview window in Scottrade Elite without entering a username or anything. The test "strategy" is pretty straightforward though so here is a step by step of what I did:
TI "Tape reader" window
right click -> configure
> set alerts = x new high, 1 days, nothing else selected
> window specific filter = none ( all blank)
> exchanges = x nyse, x amex, x nasdaq
> symbol lists = "test COA" created from scottrade elite quote window menu, sym lists, create/mod sym list, contains only symbol COA
[ok]
TI- right click > history > time frame
start = 10-13-2006 4:00 pm
end = 10-11-2006 9:00 am
[ok]
TI right click > history > unselect [ ] realtime
all I get is 3 triggers for 10/11 3:53pm...nothing for 10-12.
A further experiment: added EDEN to "test COA" symbol list.
Need to select then deselct real time to get it to take sym list update. TI picked EDEN move up fine, nice screen full of (tradable) triggers for 10/11 and 10/12..
hmm.. also geting some EDENS for 10-16 and 10-17 . Seems like I shouldn't see those since time frame limit is 10-13. Yup. time frame still set (just checked). ok figured this little quirk out myself. Apparently if you don't reclick [ok] on timeframe after making a change elsewhere it didn't clear out all the realtime display completely (i guess). I redid timeframe [ok] and the extraneous EDENS went away.
Still no 10-12-2006 COA's showing though...
eden is nasdaq stock
coa is nyse
A bit more feedback chatter (sorry, piling on here this msg because I am limitted to 3 msg/day as new ihub user).
I seem to be experiancing a bit of trouble with TI retaining my alert settings. I felt I had to keep going back and rechecking that they stayed the same during the above testing.
When I first open the TI window it seems to default to some previous setup e.g. 30 min high checked. What is the right way to "save" settings?
Also, the hist/time frame settings are a little counter-intuitive. Normally one expects the "start" of something to occur before the "end", temporally speaking. A minor matter which I managed to figure out after a few trys wondering why it wouldn't let me check [ok]...<g>
thanks
"Invisible" stock: COA
Weird. I have been testing TI using history and while this stock had a significant move up on 10-12-2006. It never shows up.
I set lots of "new highs criteria", then lots of other criteria to see if it would pick it up. To further test I created a symbol list with just COA in it -- still nothing.
I'm beginning to think problem is with NYSE data and not TI, but, this is the sort of detail thing that, what shall we say, drives one to distraction.
Any thoughts or has anyone else experianced this phenomona?
Right click for history. Thank you. Yes, much better. Somehow must have missed that crucial bit of info in the help files. Maybe too many hours spent all day glued to the monitor. Reducing mental burnout has gotten me interested in automating as much as possible.
Have also been trying out the TI pre-market screener. Not bad.
Now, what would really be handy would be to be able to input the resulting list of screener symbols into a Scottrade symbol list - (to use as filter for TI alerts).
Being able to save the premarket screener list as a comma delimitted text file which I could then paste into scott symbol list would work as well.
Or am I missing something again? <g> Maybe can already do this somehow?
Something to consider: Sector pressure.
XLPI is basically an ethonal play. Around June eth was hot but until a couple days ago has been pretty much universally reviled in the market. For example:
If you bought PEIX, a major eth player, in June at $44, as of a couple days ago you would have been down, what -71% at $12.50 pps.
XNL, prev "hot" cellulosic eth play, June: $16.18 pps, recentprice : $3 = -81% ...
XLPI is down around 86% from June level but that dip is comparable to most of the other specualtive ethonal / alt fuel plays out there.
Lately (last couple of days) seeing some life in ethonal stocks, perhaps mainly due to news from PEIX and rise in price of oil. I would expect a lag with XLPI due to its unknown status but my point is that most of the price decay we have seen could be attributable to general sector weakness.
With luck, and E85 pump equipped stations sprouting up almost every day, the plug-in convertor gizmo should eventually produce one heck of a "flash-in-the-pan" (at least until most new cars have standard e86 capability. People are and will continue to keep their cars longer duw to economics, so the "flash" should last for many years, once the "stars" (high gas prices, foreign troubles, economic turndown, housing etc) come into alignment again. So that's my 2 cents ( which ironically is about where I bought in. drat <g>)
Hi.
How do I utilize history data to test alert configurations?
I currently get TI through Scottrade and also tried downloading TI pro application but still no history function.