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could not have said it better
some are quick study's, others slow learners
how many press releases did we have in 2007
20-30 ? I think the show is just starting
at least this PR shows up in news feeds Unlike the one from dec 18th was it ?
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/19686097/NAEG-Announces-Merger-New-Symbol-Audited-Financials
which mentions the Pro Rata share distribution
but lacked the guts to come out and say 1 for 10,000 in
finding that on the net is like looking for a needle in a
hay stack. It should allmost be a stickie somewhere so it doesent get lost.
You think they will start to
answer that phone again ???
Over 2 pennys yes but earlyer you said
Posted by: shining_star Date: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 6:54:02 PM
In reply to: veto who wrote msg# 26880 Post # of 26981
When nvmg went was going up to 3 and 5 cents way back you were proud to be onboard, weren't you?
So you must have been talking "Pre 20 - 1 forward split" ???
and i am calmly waiting for you to clearly show me what i have said that May be in error
lets not just play "he said she said"
thats not the intent of the boards, in fact to bwe correct is not a requirment here
As i learned long ago when i "Had faith" in the company
Hey i just sent a querry by pm to Matt but
i wonder what the consensus is on i-hub about possible company employee's
or directors of said company's becomming board moderators ?
do they need like a IRP ?
or do they need to admit who they are?
You mean should he need to disclose
as if he was in the IRP Program ?
You bet thats a question for the question and answer board
Maybe Matt will have to make the call on that
wow your up early, its a lil late for me.
as a assistant Mod you if you see deletions that are not in line with the TOU
you could allways request reviews by the mods
shareholder sentament is not covered by the rules of the use on I-Hub
as referenced here
"To promote the civil exchange of on-topic dialog that complies with the Investors Hub User Agreement."
"It is no accident that neither the above definition nor the User Agreement makes mention of investment sentiment, shareholder interests, or considerations such as "the good of the company." That is because the TOU are blind to investment sentiment. In order to be a successful Moderator and conduct a board within the scope of iHub's TOU, it is critical that Moderators distinguish their role and privileges as Moderator from their role and privileges as a posting Member. That is often easier said than done, particularly on active boards with both the typical and atypical controversy."
A good board moderator Never sleeps
All Welcome The New Moderator to the board
WOW EH ???
the lock is on the now defunct NVMG
and hinders the exchanges of our share exchange to nagp
there was a total 500 short shares showing on shortsqeeze.com
last nite
so we can expect to see a few trades over the comming weeks
man, thats where the smart money is "shorting these guys"
NAGP probly get halted, :/
You think i should apply for the mod position on nagp board ?
i had no desire at all to be honest
but i might be able do some real good over there.
WoW, and i thought i was a disprespectful SOB
LOL
if Shiney was either
A. - Raj himself come to check on shareholder sentament
or
B. - Just some guy who thought this was a "good stock"
i think he found out, i wish him all the luck in the world
but in a world where everyone deserves a second chance
These guys from new York City ran out of chances (IMHO)
sadly, for the rest of Raj Nanvaans life, on the internet
and on the lips of those investors who knew him.
It will forever say SCAMMER
sadly for as little as "approxamatly" 3 million shares of NAGP
they could have had "happy bag holders" with Hopes and "best wishes"
i spent the day taking care of a lil buisness and rechecked my
upcomming workload, ive free'd up a lil time towards the end of the week,
So i think i will be calling Finra to discuss a thing or 2 with them, that i feel may be misleading to potential future investors.
Looks like a thursday friday thing, cant say much about it,...But.
Mr shining star, if you care to discuss anything about shareholder sentament with me (before its really too late)
I invite you to feel free to send me a private message
How can you expect to profit from a merger more than you stand to benefit already?
benefit ????
Benefit ?
ahahahahahahah
omg aha omg my ribs hurt i can hardly catch my breath from laughing.
My broker cant even get me NAGP shares they dunno nothing about em
Id stand to benefit if i could just take my take loss and rite it off
Spread over the rest of my life.
thats some benefit isnt it,
A lot of nice people got hurt believing in this company and them 2 gents running it
you just dont get it do you, ???
watched em get halted because they were too incompetant to
get themselves a clean shell.
thought you knew all about this company Raj ?
its far from there only mistake,
Im still waiting for you to tell me what disinformation im spreading
repeatedly you claim im in the wrong you've called me names
several times but never have you specified
any one point that lacks correctness
you just continue to assert that this is a GOOD STOCK
You are the biggest laugh i have had in months my friend
Say hi to Joe for me, maybe send richard in here to back up your claims
he's got a lotta time im sure, having not releated to investors much in the past couple years.
it restores you completely and gives you a running start
How the $#%& are they gonna ever get 100 $ a share ?
That my learn'd friend is what it would cost to restore me Completely
Good God Man cant u understand ???
Its All ASS WIPE
and there gonna try n sell more of it
that must be stopped
Welcome to the internet
wasnt laughing about your losses
dont misread my intent
but your intent here raises nothing but questions
how could anyone in there right mind try to put a happy faced spin
On the share exchange we've been dealt
Management had the power to structure things any way they wanted
and this is the road they chose
10 grand is chump change ?
you really shouldnt play BB stocks
the companys they represent are more often then Not
a load of something that will stick to your shoes
Why am i "unhappy"
simple, for 50 grand i got a hat
and im still waiting for it Raj
and they are getting ready to try it again, with the debts they have
I dont think they can raise enough money to DO anything
just another 3 years of talking about past accomplishments
and robbing investors
You still have not told me what i Lied about ? or did I ???
Just wait untel the pump for NAGP starts bro !!!
They screwed all of us,
whats done is done....
isnt it ?
Dude those are not even my words
in the message your responding too,
thats the tweeter linked to the web page that is shown in the message
Good god man
You have too much stress for the happy sunshine your trying to sell
please expand on that what did i lie about exactly ?
IM Right Here RAJ
info47 wrote on 05/30/2009 11:06:35 AM:
Last fall, I had a reservation under two men's names for 9 months, to rent one of my vacation rentals off Bogard and Trunk Rd. They didn't show up on the 1st day of the reservation and it took a lot of digging and voice mails on my part to find out they were NAEG employees. They strung me along, that they would pay cancellation fees, but when I called back, phone numbers were out of service, etc. It was then I saw in NY online newspapers that NAEG stock was worthless and there were problems. Instead of suing, we just ate the loss, figuring we'd never see anything from them. I had no idea it was tied to the Fowler project, which is just a mile from this vacation rental. I felt they acted in bad faith at every turn.
http://www.adn.com/2009/05/29/813115/partners-move-to-oust-fowler-from.html
COalmostnative wrote on 05/30/2009 09:50:13 AM:
@ludlarson:
Sounds like one group of crooks is trying to oust another group of crooks; nothing to do with Greenies, or anyone else-
Ya know the Market Cap is at a All time High ???
This whole scenario is a A-Typical example of what is wrong
with the finacial markets.
and why they will find no one to touch the nagp offering
The very thought that Native hopes to raise money through 504 sales
is insulting to those shareholders who are screwed
"they told me my stock is worth the same as it was"
good god man what a crock that is !!!
"give management a chance"
I THINK WE DID !! and now we see how they plan to carry forward
"BASED ON OUR PAST ACHIEVMENTS"
WTF IS THAT ???
IF ITS ANY INDICATION OF THE FUTURE i GOT ONE WORK FOR MANAGEMENT
BANK-RUPT
PERHAPS a 1 for 100 exchange may have been better recieved
at least it could have been defended, justified, endorsed by appreciative shareholders
you know it, nothing seams to add up
not being a accredited accountant myself its not my place to question
these financials
but nowhere in them do i find anything that remotely looks like the alledged 5 mil financing.
it appears mr fowlers FWOG venture was gobbled up for something in the range
of 115 million shares, nvmg which i can only assume were also exchanged at said 1 for 10,000 rate.
understandably there may be more litigation over the palmer property
and some of those other alaska lease acres
Shiney does not seam to want to hear of the past, be it promises
or failures
or just plain bad luck, we've certainly had our share of those
"we should all be thankful"
we should bury our heads in the sand awaiting the machete to the neck
because we have allready been given the Coup D'etas
it appears that in 2009 the total number of shareholders jumped
by allmost 1000 ???
- - - - - - - - - - - - - 12/31/2007 12/31/2008 12/31/2009
Total Beneficial Shareholders - Common 536 536 1584
maybe im wrong but from my viewpoint it sure feels like
outside management the only ones who will come out ahead are the former
Flight management holders, we seam to have adopted some of them too !!!
Im just reading these financials right now and
I really could use a lil help understanding a bit of it,
i'm hopein' maybe you have some background in accounting and can help me
to understand the truth of it here
Lets see if this will copy n paste, so we can look at it together and you
can maybe clear up my concerns,....
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Common stock In 2009, the Company issued 20,000,000 shares of its common stock as per a technology license and distribution rights agreement for proprietary wind turbine energy products. The shares were issued in lieu of a $2,000,000 payment for such license and distribution rights. The rights encompass all Indian lands in the continental United States and Alaska as well as the entire state of New York. License and distribution rights cover a territory of approximately 112+ million acres in the United States, equal to approximately 5% of the total U.S. land mass.
Prior to its merger in October 2009, the Company was authorized to issue 2,000,000,000 shares of its $0.001 par value common stock. The Plan of Merger called for the exchange of .0001 shares of the surviving entity for 1 share of the merged entity.
As per the plan of merger, two principals of the merged entity were issued a total of 10,000,000 shares of common stock and 500,000 shares of Series A preferred stock as in incentive for joining the management team and Board of Directors of the surviving entity.
As of December 31, 2009, there were 11,002,323 common shares and 500,000 Series A preferred shares issued and outstanding of the Company.
=====================================================================
And yes thats right out of the finacials,
my question is if 20 million shares were issued for "technology licence's"
Are those "pre share exchange" because they carry a value of 2 million dollars.
That seams like a lot of value for non trading NVMG shares
But if they are in fact NAGP shares, thats ok too, just curious if they are not yet showing up in the outstanding NAGP share count YET ???
Since that would be more nagp shares then the current float reflects?
I would appreciate any lite you can shed on this for all of us here.
I mean its easy to account for 10 of the 11 million shares in the nagp float.
And Ohhhh yah Shiney
were gonna get all the way into this stuff too....
According to Mr. Johnson, the language in the initial “Private Placement Presentation For The Project Financing of Exploration and Mining of Uranium on the Tribal Lands of the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation” presented to the Tribe was just the hook to get the investors on board. We don’t actually have plans to mine anything on Pine Ridge…unless that is what the Tribal members want.”“…
I mean we are trying to get to the truth of it all are we not?
During his testimony, he implicated Eileen Janis as potentially committing fraud by misrepresenting herself as OST Vice President in January, 2007. Janis authored at least one letter to N.A.E.G. officers on OST Vice Presidential letterhead while she was employed as Steele’s administrative assistant at the time. Further, when presented with a copy of a memo to N.A.E.G. on Steele’s presidential letterhead, Steele testified that he had never seen the memo and that his signature had been forged. At that time, Janis yelled from the Court gallery that she had discussed the memo with John and he told her that she could sign his name to it. Steele denied this.
what comes to my mind of this whole ugly scenario is the apparent lack
of Due Dilagence on the part of NAEG mangement to have gone to such efforts
Without ever finding out just how unpopular uranium mining can be
Not to mention a possible violation of tribal law
Further, the order stated that OST Member, Eileen Janis, failed to inform N.A.E.G. about OST ordinances prohibiting exploration and mining for uranium.
Failure is not a crime, ignorance is bliss.
YOUR Reply will be forthcomming
due to the amount of information being reviewed
it may take several or many Hours to fully compile all relavant information
Upon my initial look into properly replying to your concerns
It may very well require as many as 20 pages of text
as well as a good number of image uploads to properly address all
of the issues a few of us disgruntled shareholders harbor.
Please be advised there is no safe harbor here Shiney
forgive me for not properly addressing you on the 3rd as an update to adobe acrobate reader prevented me from backing up my statement
Imagine that!!!
there was no mention of Bob Fowler "another major shareholder"
who got the shaft, i guess hes not a major shareholder anymore.
he sure didnt get no 5 million share bonus now did he ???
Or it would have been mentioned in that filling.
And geeze maybe i was wrong in thinking we were reverse split
When in fact management simply exchanged our NVMG shares for Flight management shares
(at the rate of 1 for 10000)
Just so you know it may take most of the weekend for me to Post my reply
sorry to hear about your pain, but i guess you will have time to read my next post, and perhaps you will be able to answer some of the questions it will raise.
Posted by: shining_star Date: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 6:54:02 PM
In reply to: veto who wrote msg# 26880 Post # of 26896
"When nvmg went was going up to 3 and 5 cents"
So ahhhh, help me out here sir,
Just when was nvmg 3 and 5 cents ????
You have accused me of spreading false information
and engaged in name calling.
I can forgive that that, but i cant help but wonder "when" NVMG
traded in the 3 - 5 cent range
Be a good dude and show me when that was, I've only been holding
this stock since very late 2006 (Post 20 for 1 forward split)
and collected much through 2007.
I'm sure you will be happy to address my question since you did
in fact lay your good money down to subscribe to this web forum
and don't seam to have any other stocks you post on.
is it just me or are the filings
from pinksheets unnavailable ???
when i try to open them it tells me i have an adobe error
But only when i try to open a filing for nagp ????
Let me see
'shining_star'
Alias Born On: Wednesday, March 03, 2010
i get my info from very rare press releases
also places like pinksheets filing,
back in the day, i even spoke to managment from time to time.
Back in the day, i was a strong supporter of the company
and of the vision management had.
Since then i have formed my own opinion that manegment is
"INCOMPETANT"
unless you can show me anything that i have said that is incorrect
i'd sudgest you dig a lil deeper into what you think is going on.
and also i would recommend you take a few minutes to read the
I hub terms of use or TOS for this forum,
before you find yourself in the joint.
get a lil more specific please
Right you are,
the average shareholder in this stock is stuck in
at a cost average of 1 Cent or .01 $
then through nothing more than being halted
it drifted to .001 then .0001 (the plague of the grey sheets)
the whole idea of pulling off a 1 for 10,000 RS
just demonstrates Raj's willingness to screw over his shareholders
as far as there Jumbo bonuses they gave themselves.
Imagine that!!!
there was no mention of Bob Fowler "another major shareholder"
who got the shaft, i guess hes not a major shareholder anymore.
strikes me as funny that Raj being of east indian heritage,
He should know the punishment for stealing back in the ancestral home.
those are nice DAILY list,
how soon after EOD do they come out ???
cause you have like fridays list in there and its
Sunday,
so anyone can check the list and see how much shorting was done
and compare it to the days posted trades...
WTF.... do they call thats ???
Transparency ?
wow.... blown away
hey what brings you by righty?
its not like u own any stock here?
truth be known i'd like to do a lot worse than complain...
basically because Raj lied to me in a phone conversation
and the updated pictures and pr's, verify the fact that
he was not above bold faced lies to his shareholders.
You expect someone like that to treat the next batch of NAGP
shareholders much better?
As they prime up to meet eligabilty to rule 144
i expect you showed them the luvely PR
that sudgested they were hoping to buy us out for
near 1 penny, then how they honored that with the RS
well gee Joe or Raj maybe? lol actually i doubt it
But i did go re read there filings and
couldn't help but notice how many mentions along the lines of
Compliant with rule 144
Like they really wanna be compiant with their right to sell
a million dollars worth of ass wipin paper
LOL I'll hurt myself laughing
weather in alaska might be bad i dunno but as for montana
here just over the border the weather has been very civil for
the last couple weeks, if they wanted to be reworking wells in Montana, the weather would not have been an issue recently,
well, i'd go back and check but i think
MN1 and that interview have been made to disapear
like a lot of the company press releases and phone lines
even Macfun stopped talking
who can blame him,
If i saw joe or particularly Raj out on the street
I most definatly would not hit the breaks.....
remember the MN1 interview !!!
when Raj said "we have the best shareholders"
the guys to ask would be
Standard Transfer & Trust Company, Inc.
Company Information
Company Name Standard Transfer & Trust Company, Inc.
Location 2980 South Rainbow Blvd.
Las Vegas, NV 98146
Phone 702-212-3493
wheather they are allowed to give it out is another question
how odd,
if you goto Pinksheets.com and click the tab
for Company info, this is what it is now showing
Current Capital Change
shs decreased by 1 for 10 split
Pay Date: Nov 5, 2009
a fair contradiction to what was seen on the daily lists...