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Duran Duran - Ordinary World
Stock Market theme song
THREE DOG NIGHT- "OUT IN THE COUNTRY"
Little played Three Dog Night song I liked>>
Waiting for the End (Official HD)
SIX CENTS--got a good chart of ISLM...
I can only get a 2day at Yahoo, none at stockcharts
How many boards give you a 35 bagger.....
..........and in four months. I got in March 9th thanks to Rhino(6th). A lousy $300 is worth $10,000. I'm surprised more people don't post here. I sold some of it today.
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=SMKY&p=D&yr=0&mn=6&dy=0&id=p51313572544
IHCH taking off today!!! Another 6th stock>>
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=IHCH&p=D&yr=0&mn=6&dy=0&id=p72435283472
links from bigbasslure and xybrfuture
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2011/0183918.html
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1749-6632.2011.06088.x/full
http://www.ricesolution.com/index.php
And Patty keeps on rolling
http://vitaminmonkey.net/blog/24/ugly-duckling-waste-product-is-now-seen-as-nutrient-dense-super-food/
Possibility thinking based on other food stocks
Short said at the shareholders meeting, "There are 2 things not quite ready". If one takes other posters comments into the equation it could be speculated that a big money deal such as a convertible preferred stock deal that could turn that buyer into a 51% holder upon conversion is one of many possibilities as one oth the deals. Short has mentioned preferred as a possibility, but the new shares issued, about 200,000 if converted would not be 51%. So, who knows. Deal two could be a nutraceutical pharma deal.
So, just pretend my two possibilities are right, and chances slim that they are exactly right. Assume that and we can guess how the stock will react. If the big money one come first, the stock could have a big move up then continue up for a while. Then if a nutra/pharm deal comes that would be a big pop by itself.
Anyway, I just looked up fast moving food stocks to show you what can be done.
CALM--lousy egg producer went up 6 fold from 9/17/02 to m12/29/03. If Z does that from here, .93 by Thanksgiving
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=my&l=on&z=l&q=l&p=&a=&c=&s=calm
LWAY went up 7.5 fold from 6/4/04 to 4/15/05, if Z compares, it will be $1.62 next 4th of July.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=my&l=on&z=l&q=l&p=&a=&c=&s=lway
MGPI up 17 fold from 1/30/09 to 12/16/09. If Z does that, it will be $2.63 next July 4th.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=MGPI+Basic+Chart&t=5y
Now, I don't think the above 3 could be hard to beat. There are just 2 growth stocks and MGPI was a turn around. I think with the right news, Z could be better. DDRX, (Diedrich Coffee) sold Gloria Jeans Coffee Beans an was getting into upscale coffee and went from ..31 to $20 in two months and months later bought out for $30. The chart is not available anymore, but I posted on this stock many times. If Z does that, we'd be $9.74 on October 1st. Now that is a bit much. DDRX was thinly traded and not many shares outstanding. But, still it was a lousy coffee stock. NTRZ can increase the food supply of the world with no more land, water, seed and little energy. And Z is a potential pharma company. I think with that in mind, Z can do better than CALM, LWAY and MGPI easily. The old high of $5.00? I don't know about that. That could be stretching it. But, many dotcom stocks in 1999 went to great heights with NO SALES. It would be fun to see the market get irrational with NTRZ.
I could live with with $.40 at years end. The above is just possibility thinking based on what other food stocks have done. Their circumstances do not compare to NTRZ so don't bank on anything yet.
Penny--It certainly would send it up, how high I have no idea. It would amount to massive dilution, but it would expand the business exponentially and fast. Short said at the last CC, but let me change the names to be more current. He said, "Would you rather own 10% of Apple or 100% of the current NTRZ?". Shorts example was a small percent of the Rolling Stones or most of Bo Diddly" or such. He dated himself.
After a little thought, what was said in the last post is nothing new. Some said Short and Leo got golden parachutes when the got them and the United Creditors Committee did not object even though a month earlier they were calling for a special meeting because NTRZ was top heavy in management pay. I do like the thought of a possible pharma deal still in the works.
Interesting reads from the Yahoo Board. One I think is condolezza and I won't tell you who I think that is and the other is mambo, Marge Adelman, I think, former VP of sales.
I have never seen anything like this
First jill(condi)>>>
Puzzel Pieces-Put them together!!
I'm not a basher or a pumper. I just want to make money!! Put the puzzel pieces together. BE, JS, LG and DB are high D (dominate) personalities. They are only tuned to one station WIIFM...What's In It For Me!!! They are motivated by GREED and this is about GREED!! You actually think they are taking stock instead of salary to HELP the company!!!!! WAKE UP!!! The employees of Z have been in a "Blackout" period since JS took over. In other words they can't buy stock on the open market. The only way they can get more shares it to trade salary for stock....and they did it. Why do you think they did it???? They got a big deal cooking. If they were able to buy on the open market it would be classified as insider trading. This is the ONLY way they can aquire shares. Look at their contracts. JS and LG just signed new 4 yr contracts. You all think they signed it to show the world they are in for the long haul...BS!! Look at the fine print. They get their contracts PAID IN FULL if they move 51% of the company. With the management tean and the BOD trading cash for stock means something is going down....and its not NTRZ!!! Do as all good detectives do....follow the $$$$$$$!!! This is greed driven and I wish them luck!!! Bring it home JS!!!
http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_%28A_to_Z%29/Stocks_N/threadview?m=tm&bn=47300&tid=183852&mid=183852&tof=1&frt=1
mambo>>
Here's my two cents: Puzzel Pieces is bulls eye on target here. They are up to something and whoever is in now at this price is going to make money. Their contracts state that they have to sell 51% of this company to hit pay dirt. You really think they are going to stick around and build this company from the ground up? NEVER HAPPEN> JS is looking for his way out. All he cares about is KaCHING cashing out and that is what they are up to. Don't sell your stock and buy more if you're smart. They're working on something big no question.
http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_%28A_to_Z%29/Stocks_N/threadview?m=tm&bn=47300&tid=183852&mid=183862&tof=1&rt=1&frt=1&off=1
Man feeds deer rice bran, gets record
Interesting find from the Yahoo board>>>
http://www.northamericanwhitetail.com/2011/07/29/oklahomas-most-wanted-206-inch-trophy-buck/
Wednesday I saw that trade at .15 that bypassed 3 orders at .16 and figured the market makers wanted to paint a lower candle and send us down was the reason. This overall market does not help either. IS the bottom or the next notch down? Got ammo?
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=NTRZ&p=D&yr=1&mn=0&dy=0&id=p30142739206
The CC in about two weeks or less is an important one, Z could rocket. Then Brazil should start putting out stabilized products if not already and Q3 will be dynamite.
As far as the budget problems, we need a 3rd party. Raising taxes hurts the economy as the rich will not have the money to hire as many people. Lowering government spending hurts the economy becuase it will take away many jobs. A MESS.
China warns of tight power market
China's power supplies will remain tight in some regions for the rest of the summer even though electricity shortages since the start of the season were less severe than anticipated, a government report showed on Friday.
China had forecast the worst summer power shortage in recent years for 2011 but so far actual shortfalls were smaller than expected due to favorable weather and other factors such as power price hikes.
The National Development and Reform Commission urged all relevant parties and regions to continue their efforts to increase power supplies and curb unreasonable demand.
"Thermal power plants should proactively purchase thermal coal and increase coal imports, and try to generate power as much as possible; hydropower plants should try to generate more power under the preconditions of flood control and dam safety," the commission said in the report published on its website (Ndrc.gov.cn).
"Coal miners should prioritise thermal coal supplies and oil firms should try to increase gas supplies for power generation while ensuring supplies to major users including residents and to storage facilities."
The Commission expected maximum power load for air conditioning alone to grow 12.5 percent from a year earlier to about 180 gigawatts (GW) during peak demand from late July to mid August, or a quarter of national peak power load.
It said power demand from industrial sectors will continue to grow fast after rising 11.7 percent in the first half.
"Hydro levels in Hunan and Guangxi remained at unusually low levels due to uneven rainfalls recently, and the growth of coal production in some regions could be undermined by recent coal mine accidents."
The commission said 12 Chinese provinces cut power supplies to users by up to 12 GW in early and mid July, compared with power deficits of 18 GW in June and 11 GW in May.
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/business/2011-07/29/content_13014441.htm
China banks can withstand 50% property price drop
I don't know if I believe this article.
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/business/2011-07/29/content_13013978.htm
If these levels hold, this could be a nice bottom play.
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=EWZ&p=D&yr=1&mn=0&dy=0&id=p09437237475
Penny--Great info their. I heard from a friend at the shareholders meeting that Rice Bran Protein was going to be big. I hope the technical pharma link leads to something as well. NTRZ is close, but this is sure a painful time for it's shareholders. I think the new FDA rules have delayed a nutraceutical deal or introduction of 3 new trademarked items.
I was in Whole Foods last evening and noticed two products by NewChapter, Every Man and Every Woman. No big deal except for NTRZ has two new trademarks for unknown products named Healthy Body and Every Body. The names seem to rhyme a bit, don't ya think? I think the BiFlexin is the joint pain nutraceutical in wait. All 3 of these new products were filed in February/March. And an interesting point is that the trademark link for RiPowerImmuneBoost expired. I informed management of that 2 months ago, so I suspect maybe other means of protecting the name such as patent, or maybe even a name change showing the great radiation fighting qualities might come about.
http://www.trademarkia.com/company-nutracea-888189-page-1-2
http://www.newchapter.com/multi-vitamins/every-man
http://www.newchapter.com/multi-vitamins/every-woman
Maybe a deal with NewChapter is delayed by the FDA rules or even a larger deal with someone else with New Chapter and Z part of it.
Penny, keep the good info coming.
I am surprised at the buying. I see NO REASON to buy this stock as there is NO INFO coming out. In the past month there has been more selling than buying, but not by much. I don't know of anybody buying, but I do know of one selling and that person needs money due to job realted problems. And that has to be more than one persons story in this economy. So, who is been consistantly buying? Is it new customers and their friends? I don't know. I would not be surprised if we lost another penny or so, but if the stock is .15 or .25, when the right PR comes out or ther right earnings come out in a couple of weeks it won't matter. We will soar past old highs.
In the 80's we had Reagan, Johnny Cash and Bob Hope
Now we have Obama, no cash and no hope.
Food as fuel people don't give up
From World Grain>>>
Biodiesel achieves 5-to-1 return on fossil energy
World-Grain.com, July 22, 2011
by World Grain Staff
JEFFERSON CITY, MISSOURI, U.S. — A new study released on July 21 shows that for every unit of fossil energy needed to produce U.S. biodiesel, the return is 5.54 units of renewable energy.
The study was completed by the University of Idaho and U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA). The energy-in, energy-out ratio is called "energy balance" or "fossil energy ratio."
"This study shows the clear trend that biodiesel production continues to improve when it comes to efficient use of resources," said Don Scott, director of sustainability for the National Biodiesel Board (NBB). "No other fuel available in the U.S. comes close to such a high energy balance."
Scott noted the most recent data available for this study was from 2006.
"Using data from 2009 or 2010 would likely show an even greater gain in energy efficiency," he said.
Biodiesel, made from agricultural co-products and byproducts, has always had a relatively high energy balance. This is partly because the main energy source used to grow crops is the sun, which is "free energy."
The U.S. Department of Energy and USDA completed the first comprehensive lifecycle assessment for biodiesel produced in the U.S. in 1998. That study found a 3.2-to-1 energy balance. The energy inventory for this analysis was updated in 2009 using 2002 data, finding the ratio had improved to 4.56-to-1.
In the new study, three things are primarily responsible for the leap in biodiesel's energy balance number:
• New data from USDA and the National Biodiesel Board show that soybean crushing facilities and biodiesel production plants have become increasingly energy efficient.
• Soybean farmers have adopted energy-saving farm practices, such has minimum tillage.
• Increases in soybean yields.
"In addition to improved energy efficiency at processing facilities, soybean growers have accomplished greater yields with lower inputs of water and fertilizer per bushel, even as cropland has declined," said Jim Duffield, USDA senior agricultural economist, who co-authored all three life cycle analysis studies. "Biodiesel deserves some credit for this progress — the demand it creates is helping to drive the new technologies that make American agriculture more efficient."
Specifically, in comparison to the 2009 study, the new study finds:
• The energy input in soybean agriculture was reduced by 52%.
• The energy input in soybean processing was reduced by 58%.
• The energy input in biodiesel production (transesterification) was reduced by 33%, per unit volume of biodiesel produced.
• Overall, the energy input reduction was 42% for the same amount of biodiesel produced.
• The addition of secondary inputs, such as farm machinery and building materials, did not have a significant effect on the fossil energy ratio.
http://www.world-grain.com/News/News%20Home/World%20Grain%20News/2011/7/Biodiesel%20achieves%205-to-1%20return%20on%20fossil%20energy.aspx
Genius Bread US Shipments Begin This Week
A Yahoo poster found the following on Glutino's facebook.
See the first post on Glutino's Facebook page:
"Genius by Glutino breads are shipping to locations in the US this week, be on the lookout and post a picture on our wall when you see them!"
http://www.facebook.com/Glutino
if they are shipping, they probbly bought SRB in Q2 in June. This could be one of Z's biggest customers in the "Gluten Free" category and maybe one of their biggest customers so far.
jatd--They are in somewhat of a blackout til all creditors back. Next major news will be in 3 weeks, unless a major deal is done requiring an 8-k or such. I believe Irgovle is close to stabilization, Q 3 should be the big breakout quarter and hopefully the market will price that in, in advance of it.
Elo-Rockaria
The last 40 seconds of this used to me in a party moooood.
ELECTRIC LIGHT ORCHESTRA - Do Ya
Richie Havens, Freedom, (Woodstock)
Richie Havens in Woodstock '69 :: Handsome Johnny
Just watched this on VHI, yep, I am an old phart.
New Henk article on the webiste, the one dated July 2011>>>
http://www.nutracea.com/RiceBranArticles
Cork--Hope it was a good buy. A couple of big bids parked at .16.
311 - Sunset In July
More Than Half of Tuna Species Facing Extinction, But Over-Fishing Them is Too Profitable to Stop
As we've written about previously, tuna's in trouble, and it's not just limited to one species and/or one geographical region. A new study conducted by the International Union for Conservation of Nature (IUCN) and published in the prestigious journal Science found that 5 out of the 8 tuna species are at "risk of extinction".
The problem in good part lies with the commercial appeal of these species. There is little interest in stopping over-fishing because it's so profitable. And when there are regulations, they are hard to enforce because of the logistical difficulties of monitoring fishing, and because of a lack of political will. Basically, money talks.
IUCN experts warned that all three bluefin tuna species - southern, Atlantic and Pacific - were susceptible to collapse because of pressure from fishing for the high-value fish.
Southern bluefin tuna are already critically endangered, the highest category of risk, and Atlantic bluefin are endangered, the assessment for the IUCN red list of threatened species found.
Bigeye tuna are vulnerable to extinction, while yellowfin and albacore tuna are close to being under threat, or will be threatened with extinction if conservation measures are not put in place to turn their fortunes around. (source)
Dr Kent Carpenter, manager of IUCN's marine biodiversity unit: "If no changes are made to current fishing practices, the western Atlantic bluefin stocks are at risk of collapse as they are showing little sign that the population is rebuilding following a significant reduction in the 1970s."
Problem is, countries like Japan and Canada (shame!) are opposed to adding bluefin tuna to the UN list of protected fish, because of the impact it would have on fisheries. What they need to realize is that the impact will be worse, and permanent, if these fish go extinct.
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2011/07/more-than-half-tuna-species-facing-extinction-iucn-study.php?campaign=th_rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+treehuggersite+%28Treehugger%29
Good call thumbs and Donna, breakout looks like it is arriving.
Hey Condolezza--Second paragraph--When?
A great post at iHub by Condolezza, but when will paragraph 2 happen>>>>>>>>>>>
There is substantially more depth to this Company than most here realize. Once they exit BK the potential exists for them to unleash scores of applications using their proprietary technologies. They have been furiously recording patents for these applications during BK and prior.
They have patented applications for using stabilized rice bran fiber ingestion for treating or preventing various maladies including: colon health and cancer prevention, cholesterol reduction, diabetes stabilization/control of hyperlipidemia, prevention of gall bladder/kidney stones, promoting bowel regularity, reducing risk of coronary heart disease, achieving healthy weight loss, preventing joint inflammation/pain, the treatment of IBS, IBD, Crohn's disease, antibiotic induced diarrhea and other bowel disorders
Nutracea's products can easily be incorporated into a multitude of food applications to not only reduce manufacturer costs but to increase nutritional profiles. Examples include but are not limited to:
A variety of food formulations and oven-baked items, such as in crackers, cookies, breads and other such food comestibles. Bread products according to the invention include, but are not limited to, white bread, wheat bread, tortillas, rolls and buns, specialty/artisan breads, rye bread, whole grain varietals, bagels, pasta, grain-based snack foods, cereals, crackers, cookies, cakes, muffins, pastries, pancakes, pizza crusts, doughnuts, grain- based nutritional supplements, and salty snacks such as pretzels, tortilla chips, and corn chips, healthy beverages, low fat nutritionally boosted meat products.
http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_%28A_to_Z%29/Stocks_N/threadview?m=tm&bn=47300&tid=176576&mid=176576&tof=-1&rt=1&frt=2&off=1
Condolezza--The last two paragraphs seem to be coming true--Thanks
I hope the June bottom was tested today and away we go. Parker, I saw you post just as the TV show ended last night. Did I miss anything?
15 Food Companies that Serve You ‘Wood’
AGHAST>>>>>>>
http://foodfreedom.wordpress.com/2011/07/08/15-food-companies-that-serve-you-wood/
Looking better Parker for you to get in?????
Getting Used to Life Without Food
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=25483
Will USA gold and silver stocks outperform the metal on another leg up of a gold and silver rally? That was the question I was going sort of eluding to. I see analysts say gold and silver stocks should outferform the metals if we got another leg up. I am thinking, if they can't keep up since 2004 with gold up 3 and 1/2 fold and silver up 5 fold, we can't be so sure.
If the next leg up is caused by the dollar collapsing further, then yes as USA gold miners labor verse the world labor would drop? I don't know, I'm just looking for thoughts as to investing. You guys are good.
The Chinese Black Swan
Submitted by Vitaliy Katsenelson on 07/05/2011 14:48 -0400
Party rulers in China are trapped in a position that chess players deeply fear — zugzwang — where any move made puts you at disadvantage. In China, the potential cost of both action and inaction is economic collapse.
China is slowly starting to face the consequences of its actions — loans grew over 30% a year over the last few years — and inflation is rising fast. Inflation in developed countries is unpleasant, but it is tolerable. For a developing country — and China, despite its size, is still a developing country — it can be catastrophic. In developed countries, we spend two or three times less on food as a percentage of our income as do people in developing countries. Therefore, though food inflation is unpleasant, we have a much greater tolerance (margin of safety) for it. While food inflation the US can mean fewer trips to restaurants or no summer vacation, food inflation in China leads to hunger.
The Chinese government is desperately trying to put the brakes on the economy. It is shutting off lending to land developers and has raised bank reserve requirements five times this year. However, its success on the inflation front will likely lead to a slowdown of the economy and high unemployment. Ironically, those were the issues party planners tried to cure when they stimulated the hell out of the economy over the last few years.
China bulls are arguing that the almighty Chinese government will be able to soft-land the economy. Unlikely, I’d say. Forced lending was at the core of Chinese economic growth. Simply put, there is too much debt to go bad. According to Ernst and Young, one-third of the $700 billion in loans taken out by local governments may face repayment problems. The People’s Bank of China estimates that Chinese banks’ exposure to local government loans is 14 trillion yuan ($2.2 trillion), according to the June 17 South China Morning Post. Once lending is cut off, property prices will stop appreciating (and likely collapse — that is what usually happens in a Ponzi scheme). Also, the overcapacity in the industrial sector and commercial real estate will come to the surface. And suddenly everyone will discover that the venerable emperor has no clothes.
I often hear the argument that China will not have a real estate crisis of US proportions because home and condo owners have to put 30-40% down when they buy. So where do people get the money to buy a house that costs, on average, 8 times their annual income (a figure several times higher than in the US)? Some of it comes from savings, and some comes from borrowing from relatives.
Let’s pause for a second. In the 1990s, the Chinese banking system basically collapsed. To revive it, the Chinese government took bad loans from banks’ balance sheets and put them into off-balance-sheet vehicles (Enron would be proud of that financial ingenuity). Banks started to function as though nothing had happened. To finance the off-balance-sheet assets, the government set deposit interest rates at very low levels: 1% or so. In a country with a very high savings rate and 5% inflation, this resulted in a 4% annual loss of purchasing power.
Chinese consumers were punished severely over the last 10 years for the banking crisis of the late ’90s. And they’ll be punished even more soon. Keeping money in the bank didn’t make that much sense, and investment alternatives were limited. However, they could invest in an asset that supposedly never declines in price – a house or condo. So they did. As China slams the brakes on the economy and as housing prices fall, the banks will lose plenty of money. But more importantly, it is the people who bought tremendously overpriced houses, and their relatives who lent them money, who will lose. The wealth and hard work of more than one generation will be lost, and this kind of pain leads to political unrest. That is the Chinese Black Swan!
Also see presentation – China The Mother of All Grey Swans
Vitaliy N. Katsenelson, CFA, is Chief Investment Officer at Investment Management Associates in Denver, Colo. He is the author of The Little Book of Sideways Markets (Wiley, December 2010). To receive Vitaliy’s future articles by email, click here or read his articles here.
Investment Management Associates Inc. is a value investing firm based in Denver, Colorado. Its main focus is on growing and preserving wealth for private investors and institutions while adhering to a disciplined value investment process, as detailed in Vitaliy Katsenelson’s Active Value Investing (Wiley, 2007) book.
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http://www.zerohedge.com/article/chinese-black-swan
Sify Added to the Russell Global Index
Partly the reason for the big rise today?
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Sify-Added-to-the-Russell-prnews-3871261654.html?x=0&.v=1
Opinions of gold/silver stocks lagging.........
.......the price of the metals big time.
I sold CDE, GSS, and NEM in 2004 near the high of that year for all of them. CDE and GSS are substanially lower while NEM is $6 higher than I sold it for, but inflation adjusted, lower.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=my&l=on&z=l&q=l&p=&a=&c=&s=nem
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=my&l=on&z=l&q=l&p=&a=&c=&s=gss
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=my&l=on&z=l&q=l&p=&a=&c=&s=cde
Gold is 3 and 1/2 times the price and silver 5 X the price as in 2004. How can this be? I know Venezula has taken away some of the mines, but if all three lost 1/2 of their mines, the stocks should still be higher. I know unions were helping out the miners in the late 90's and early 2000's and got nice raises, but still, WOW, the divergence seems unexplainable unless there is outright theft going on, government regulation expensive or bad management. Maybe the stocks were overpriced in 2004?
Some Canadian miners have done real well, ABX and EGO come to mine since 2004. The dollar has fallen since 2004 compared to the Canadian dollar, but not that much.
This message board has some real pros on it, can any of you add to my lack of knowledge?
TIA
It could. Many ohters to look at as well down there..
http://stocksabroad.com/modules.php?name=Brazil_ADR