gotmoney must be a newbie not to know the entire story behind SW f up. Winnick is to blame and if people stick around long enough he'll screw them again. He uses bkmp as a source of income not to build a brand. TFN is building the brand and I'm sure in the end TFN will make it's own history. Why take TFN to the states with BKMP when it doesn't even look credible. TFN will end up in the states but it won't be as bkmp and of course not bkmpp.

Not often I see eye to eye with you Rags but you are right. The only person I trust in investing is myself, that way I have noone to blame. If I put anything into what HR and others have said I would picked door number 3 that had the 800 pound gorrilla. At least I could have fed him cheap bananas.

We all talk about that idiot Winnick, does anyone know how to contact Garrow? Say and email address we can flood with concerns of the relationship with Wizenut.

Who said SEC has bigger fish to fry? If TFN turns out to be what some think I'm sure they'd be interested in knowing that the CEO is a crook.
This latest effort is to extort money from the investors. Winnick isn't generating any more revenue or not enough because they are not in the states where the real money will come from.
Unitl they hit the states he is and will do anything to include crooked acts to generate money for himself.... He has proven this in the past. Why ignore what he has done before....
Mike Garrow should also be slammed with emails on this as well as the SEC.

the SEC should be getting tons of complaints from folks like us. Even if we are not sure of any wrong doings it will bring attention to this matter.
The legal side would be a class action law suit not just one pissed off guy going after winnick.

How can anyone trust AT or HR? We don't know them from Winnick, they have no credibility if you think thru the last..... oh let's say year maybe.... Winnick has proven once again that he cares for noone but himself. If you listen to those on this board who "KNOW" then your going to get bent over. If you take winnick for his past doings your fine. Bankrupt, possible. Who are YOU going to believe? You have to assume that until TFN shows another hand that BKMP stock is the only piece of TFN.
If TFN goes down or goes a separate path I'll take my divys and commons and roll them on a spindle and hang it next to the toilet.

Emerging companies require sound leadership, TFN needs to break away. Easier said then done since Blackout Communications own it and Winnick has his dime in there somewhere.
Garrow isn't a vet at running a global communications company or broadcast company but he'd do well to get rid of the relationship with Winnick at have a go with TFN himself.
My thought has been to by BKMP because it was the only link to TFN, if TFN had stock I would have bought that. I would have bought Blackout Communications stock if it meant getting closer to having a piece of TFN. Right now I'm not sure on any of it.

This is my point, he does have a "Not so Good Past" There have been many people critized on this board because they brought that up. Past performance as a CEO is very important for a company like this. Winnick could destroy the potential that TFN has just by being himself and continuing his ways.
If I was one who critized those for brining up his past I am VERY sorry if I did. He's on the same path as before, stickin it to the investors.

Just to reply to you comments. I have every right as an investor to attack, be angry and even suggest the SEC should be knocking on his door.
When you a CEO of a company you are expected to act in a professional manner at all times. You have the responsibility to your shareholders to do so and give an image of security. The CEO is a reflection of where the company will go and the future direction is dictated by the CEO. If you can't see that he has issues based upon his past performance and those of the last couple of days you'd be in the minority.

Winnick is the most unprofessional CEO. I sent an email and here was his response. My original message is the last part.


"
I guess only time will tell if you are right or I am right.....but I guess if you think you can do a better job then maybe you should ask for the job...what do you think......

All I have been trying to do is create value for the s/h that it is...I am sorry if you do not think that is my focus or my job.....
"

You just don't get it. Being a ceo of a public company requires investor confidence. They have none in you. If you don't know what you are doing let someone else take charge. You clearly stated the divy would be tradable, they are not and never will be. What do you think the SEC will think of this? More importantly what do the investors and future investors think.... It goes beyond what you are capable of understanding.

I'm not shy, I sent a formal complaint to the SEC. Not keen enough to cite any violations but it was outright fraud. He should be in prison stripes in a cell with a guy named mister Over.

Bob Ubanks of the Newly invested game ask:

Wheres the strangest place you've ever been told to shove a stock?

Well, down to 2, over half a billion served and the ceo is a snake with no background that any traditional investor would trust. But in pinky land you can expect it but this is a little out there. It is begining to sound like the ole winnick will eventually be wearing prison stripes with the path he is on. Investor trust and confidence is important even in pinky land and he just peeeeesed that away with many. New investors will look at old news and forums and not have interest and the old investors MAY hang on a little longer but at this rate it doesn't look good.

That's a good point but not a good outlook. If the MM's are buying for inventory then we are screwed down the road. Gives them even more control later.

email from sandy:
I sent a pretty scathing email on my disappointment.

her is his response.

Nobody is putting a gun to your head to convert - it gives shareholders an option to buycommon at a reduced price and get some value out of your preferred.

Based on the price your preferred shares are worth .00025 - not bad for shareholders.

If you believe in the company then you believe in what we are doing.

I sent emails to the street, cramer, and others. maybe someone will think this is as f'd up and give ole winnick some kickin in the teeth on a national level.
management of a company, even in penny land, is very important. This does not bode well for king sandy... wait.. I'm demoting him to court jester... maybe even piss boy..

You have to call your broker on this...
they are just laughing their rears off.
My broker basically said, "Good thing you didn't put much into it" asked me if I had ever seen an ekg go blank... too funny

350 mill volume and it's starting to flat line....hahahahahahaha
I remember when HRHR told me I was an old man going to get lost in the dust.... who's laughing now....

Tell us how you really feel!
I remember those who said don't worry about Sandy's past, he's a different person... blah... blah...
Turns out he is still a snake.

Are f'n kidding, there have been some stupid comments come from sandy and really strange head scratchin emails and prs but this is punch him in the face type situation.

Here's your lump of coal.

First, other boards are kinda laughing at us. Don't really blame them.
Second, Canada news is old news. I hate to say it but we've know canada is a done deal. That isn't what was going to help this company.

The company needs money, maybe this is one way to piss off all the investors and guarantee he'll never get anymore.

SEC, does anyone have the number to the SEC where we can bit%$ about this, maybe turn it into good ole fashioned winnick barbi...

I believe a couple of folks tried to tell people HRHR and some others were FOS!

Gee golly! where are all you geniousessss who said this was a great deal...
I smell a law suit..

20 mill on the volume and it's been down to 3 and back up.

And what would make you so sure of that? Do YOU now have information that others don't? Not even the CEO of the company is making a statement about the divys.

Post of the week right there! Clown, windmill, wagon wheel and add some whoooopie dooos and we're at a reglar putt putt course.

Ya don't want to know. I got peeeesssed and bumped the buy button and I'll be. Got more at 3.

Well said. the problem is even with a well thought out post like this you would still be considered a bad one to have on the board. I disagree, expressing the angst we have is part of investing and I've had a ton with this stock but I don't base my opinion to buy or sell on a couple of pumpers or at least that's all they are until this stock hits the roof.
Well said..

Hey NOW, don't be so hard on AT and HRHR.... I was able to grab some today at the .0003 mark... I'm a little happy... er..
Even with the gagillion... oops only half billion trading..

That's gotta hurt!
All the expectation and the pps dipped to .0003. What a day, .0005 .0003.

Where's the pumpers or cheerleaders? Almost 600 mil and no good explanation... huh...

slinging mud... same thing happended the last time there was huge volume and no movement... just more proof... people are getting a little edgy having to wait soooo long for the magical pr.

half a billion and still the pps remains the same.... so who do you really think is pulling the strings behind the curtain...
Not us or HR.... MMs still not going to let it run...

To steal a line from a Jim Carey movie liar liar "You've been here before."
You've seen this song and dance before as well.

Someone has been paying attention. I have a running tab on the pump info, even those statements that the great HRHR has made and most has been fluffy poo... Year later and we're still sittin here seeing a lousy pps and a ceo doing a great job for TFN but not the ceo of BKMP the stock of the company we own.

Had certs for awhile.... There is only one person responsible for this and that is winnick. Both the SEC and the TA said the company can get those trading. If you recall the GREAT winnick said and I quote "They will be Tradeable"... Not much on his word is he. By the time most could get them back into an account if they become worth more than toilet paper there'd be a HUGE R/S.

The hype isn't working either. TFN has coverd Canada and moving to other countries that won't affect the pps. We are almost a year old on some hype from the "Very respected posters" and the pps hasn't moved.

Gee, he doesn't even have a good rep as of late either. SW said clearly that the divy would be tradable. Hmmmm.... still not tradable. Don't give me that they'll eventually be tradable either.