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I've been out of this stock for awhile, but I thought this article was something worth posting.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/john_rolfe/01/08/team.caskets/index.html
Been in FCCN for little over a month now. I like what I see so far. What I do not like or understand is why some of you even respond to the bashers. I would rather see this board with no post at all than to respond to bashers. Let them talk to themselves. Trust me, I have seen them many times before. They will go away if you ignore them long enough. They are like stay cats, they won't stay if you don't feed them. I'll check back in on Friday.
No problem guys. This is just some manipulation by some larger buyers to keep the price low so they can get in. There are also some bashers here as expected that want to get at the low prices for a quick 25% flip. This is rise as it is expected.
Hey guys, I have been in FCCN for about 3 months now. This is a quality stock IMHO. I am starting to notice some bashers come out of the woodwork. Look at the links below for the signs and remember. NEVER RESPOND TO A BASHER! Every time you respond you are assisting them and if they are paid bashers, they get paid by the number of replies they receive.
http://www.novakcapital.com/bashers.htm
http://moneycentral.groups.msn.com/jdsumoneycentral/general.msnw?action=get_message&mview=1&...
ALWAYS start a new thread if you NEED to reply. Don't just change the subject line.
Excellent post Diesel. I agree with you fully. That is why I pulled my profits today. Not bashing ETIM, it will flourish one day, but money that is not growing is decreasing in value.
Take care guys. I keep ETIM on my watchboard just for sentimental value.
James Plant from CKYS. I was so lucky to get out before it crashed. Not good, because I did not see it coming, but lucky.
why do you think that companies pay millions of dollars to sponsor athletes and sports arenas. Exposure to customers. Get your name out there. companies dont do charible work because they are loving companies, they do it because it generates goodwill with potential customers. Exposure is the name of the game. it is a proven busines practice, when you need sales, your increase your advertising budget. if you can get the advertising for free..do it.
Not the point, GM was coming out with a new car, so they gave a few away and now it is a big seller. People look to Oprah for trends and her audience is in the millions. What cheaper way can you get your product in front of millions of potential customers.
Gotta go guys, just thought I would chime in for a second. ETIM needs exposure. AF's will give it credibility, but ETIM still needs exposure.
Grass, it wold be a great move. Remember back when Oprah was giving away Pontiac G6's to her audience members. She didn't buy those cars herself, Pontiac gave them to Oprah to give to her audience. Now the G^ is one of Pontiac's best selling cars. Think about how every book that Oprah reads becomes a best seller. She gave one of her guest a Porsche for losing a lot of weight one time, Porsche donate the car. Oprah doesn't pay for the gifts she gives away. Cheap publicity. people follow oprah.
Gotta go guys. Market is closed. Life is calling and I must answer. Anybody here ride motorcycles? Greatest feeling in the world. Here is to making money and forging relationships. I will probably log back on next week to check in.
What is wrong with that post. A stock seemed reliable, but ended up being a scam. I didn't see it, but my ego was not too big to request assistance from others. Where is the problem JSKIBLA? Do you see me pumping or bashing this stock. I make money because I ask questions, do my DD and question authority. Try it sometime it might work for you.
Stock, it is not funny and that is the point.
I agree with you BEE, but it still has similar PPS swings that most pink stocks have that can be profited from. Like today, I bought some at .005 and last week I sold some at .006. That is a 20% swing. I will hold a chunk of free shares in this for the remainder of the year. But I will also trade a nice chunk when it is profitable.
A company is mostly susceptible to shorts and daytraders when management does not manage their PPS, which is for the most part managing expectations. Be consistent in your PR's and keep your word to your shareholders and shorts and daytraders will be minimized.
Does anyone remember Cyberkey Solutions? Their board was all-positive and noone was looking at the possible negatives. The company is now dead, the FBI arrested the CEO and the shareholders are holding the bag. Do I think ETIM will do the same? No, but you still have to be extremely cautious and not fall in love with any stock. When all is said and done, the individual shareholder is always the one left holding the bag.
It's not about bashing, it is about making money which is the purpose of trading stock. If you can call me a basher for the few statements that I have said, then I can call you a pumper. But nobody needs to be labeled here for voicing an opinion.
I don't want this stock to go down, I still own a substantial block of shares in it. I have just seen this before (a good pinky with young management). Which means that there will be plenty of mistakes. I have nothing against ETIM, I just don't listen to mindless chatter with no basis in fact. There are approximately 3 to 4 people on this board who seem to understand stocks and trading. The rest appear to be followers.
CT, this board has drunk the cool aid full strength. Don't worry about it. You are not going to open any minds here. Just sell it when it is high and buy when it is low. Don’t form any emotional bond to this thing. Treat it like it is, a good company with young inexperienced management. Trade it for what it is worth. If you say anything other than positive mind numbing statements about ETIM on this board they will attempt to shout you down.
Had a free moment so I logged back in for one more second. Free Nebula, I think you are the only one on this board who actually understands this. My blunt message to ETIM was NOT the point nor should it have been the emphasis. The point was the amateurish response from Clint. I honestly did not expect to receive a response. I just want to vent my views on the latest events of ETIM. Personally, if I was Clint, I would not have responded at all. Gotta go fellas. Life calls. Take care and here is to making lots of money on ETIM then moving on to the next stock.
It doesn't matter if you have 5 or 5000 employees. When you take that leap to go public and accept public dollars you have an obligation to do it right and you have to keep your word to your investors. There is no choice in that. Most large companies stated out very small i.e Fed EX, UPS, Home Depot etc. They build their brand on the reputations which is their word.
I understand the affection that a lot of you have for ETIM, I like the company myself or I would not have purchased the stock over a year ago in the first place, but I still treat ETIM like what it really is, a public company that has a obligation to its investors. Maybe if someone or some organization had done this with other pinky stocks you would not have been victimized by the other pinky killer that you stated that hurt you financially.
And far as this capable info machine that you speak of, that sounds pretty communistic to me. This is a democracy, if you have a voice you should make it heard. Trust me, I have seen this. I work in banking and have seen plenty of investors love their CEO and do they think the CEO has any knowledge of them or care? Not calling Clint lazy, but he needs to step it up.
My last words on this.
Silent investors are a lazy executives best friend.
Not a problem. I am not mean person,just to the point. I will go back to being silent on this board like I have been for the past year. Take care fellow investors and don't drink too much of the cool aid. Remember, this is an investment to make money, not to be liked. Logging out.
You mean Clint?
I will do that, but I guarantee you that there are multiple longs that feel that same way as I do. Just like this is the first time I have posted to this board, there are a lot of investors that watch the boards, but do not post.
I understand the Clint is new at this and young, but come on, I have been in department head meetings where the nice words that were spoken were harsher that the ones I used. When you "take" the public's money, you answer to them.
I saw this happen at UPS. People forget that UPS was a private company. UPS has only been public company for eight years. A lot of executives had to leave the company because they could not handle the responsibility of running a public company. It is a different ballgame and you do answer to your investors whether they are nice or not. It is your job.
I have been to multiple sharholder meetings. I was most recently at a Home Depot shareholder meeting and of course that was not a pleasant affair, but it was still handled in a professional manner by company executives. I expect a lot from the companies that I invest in. And keeping your word is at the top of that list. That is the main reason why Nardelli is out as the CEO at Home Depot. Larger companies for the most part understand that and most small companies are still learning it. If he thought this was rude, wait until one of his bankers gets upset with something. I know for a fact that bankers are the meanest SOB's on the planet when a company leader goes away from the stated script.
I sent this message to Clint and received this response. I didn't mean to come off as rude to Clint, but wanted him to understand the sentiments of some the longs that have invested into the company.I guess he is not in the greatest mood as of late.
My Comments: "Been an investor in your company for over a year. Not some daytrader. You have done nothing lately but screw your investors over."
"Do not give out dates if you are not sure you can make those dates. AF's, PRs, etc. Just don't forget that investors put money in your pockets as well."
"postmaster@eternalimage.net" <postmaster@eternalimage.net> wrote:
"Best of luck to you. If you send a message like this again, your email address will be added to our block filter."
Sometimes I get the feeling that small company executives forget that when they take their companies public that it is no longer their baby. When you accept the publics money, you accept all of the responsibility that goes along with it. That includes answering to your shareholders and doing what you said that you were going to do.
This is the only small company stock that I currently own so I have faith in it, but would like a little more accountability. I operate by the rule, dress for the job that you want not the job that you have. Well, I expect the companies that I invest in to act like the companies that they want to be, not like the company that they currently are.
Excellent. Thanks. How long usually is the file and wait period?
Question for the board:
What steps does ETIM have to do to be uplisted to the OTCBB?
What steps are still remaining?
Thanks
Thanks ETIMlurker. Appreciate the reply. I did a little DD over the weekend and feel comfortable about this investment so far.
Great! What did you find? Where was it listed?
College student here. Had a pretty good investing year so far, but I like to invest in solid companies, not just fast fliers. I have to watch my pennies.
Has anyone verified any of these contracts with MLB, or the other entities that ETIM says they do business with? I was on the MLB website and so no mention of ETIM. I am long, but doing some DD.
Thanks
I had to get out today guys. Maybe i will get back in in a month or two. Was passing up too many opportunities other places. made 50% on ETIM today. wish ATWT would that. i had a larger position in ATWT.
Maybe it is just me, but I can no longer see pink sheets stocks on Yahoo.com finance. Can someone verify. thanks
I am looking on the bright side. The company is part of the Goodyear/Gemini franchise chain and they are very large. So hopefully the ATWEC program will expand to the other locations.
1.6M shares here
1.6M here. waiting for 10 cents
Well, for once the SEC made a regulation that makes sense. Maybe the government isn't so inept afterall.
Why is that RVZ1020? Is that a rule? I didn't sale, but I was not aware of any regulation like that. Please explain.
Thanks
Decent day. Low volume but still closed in the green.
Sir, yes sir. May I please have another sir!
Seems low, but thanks for the input.
Ok everyone, lets play the 2007 target price for ATWEC contest. Who can say (realistically) what the target high price for ATWT will be next year.
Thanks Nez.
Sorry for being so negative. I am still long on this stock. Just had to vent.