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I used to watch him many years ago. If he mentioned a stock (buy buy buy), it went up the next day. The key was to sell right away because it usually fell later in the day. I think many people did that.
Dave would say no response is my response.....
Isn't dv-vax in a combo trial with keytruda. I keep thinking a saw a report somewhere on outstanding results so far. But I never hear any mention of the trial so I keep thinking I must have misheard it or senility is setting in.
Why not both, LL to discuss science, Les to give overview without revealing too much. Cramers the one who bathed stock years ago wasn't he? Maybe he would like to make amends now we've submitted for approval. Hell of a coup recommending a .66 stock before approval. Or nwbo can say nothing and remain in the .60s
LL on Cramers show for 3 min discussing results, combos, and submission would skyrocket SP. Instead we get DI on a small radio show revealing nothing. But there's always an excuse, quiet period, MHRA doesn't like pressure, NDA, delays, covid, etc. what ever happened to the flood of PRs promised instead of lawyerspeak where you can't get a straight answer.
It's possible, but why not just come out and say it in PR? Instead they blame some key personnel for being unavailable for 2 weeks
Why are you posting this to the board? Keep your private arguments just that.
And still the average investor will have no idea about nwbo, rapid review or not. Company has done a lousy job of promoting imo.
Another question is are we going to see 150 days of silence again? LL should be doing a victory tour of every major news outlet. Describing the treatment and saying they submitted would not affect the application in any way imo.
I agree, but the combo trial with Merck, showing outstanding preliminary results, has got to have people excited. If they would ever get the word out.
I'm invested, as I believe most are, until the end/approval. I don't need to know the exact day, all that is out of my hands. Obsessing over the timeline will only cause agita. It wouldn't affect timeline or SP one bit if we got an exact day and time. Someone will always argue another minor point. Arguing that investors need to know... Is pointless at this time. It is in the hands of MHRA. in the words of baron von rashke, dat is all you need to know
My mental attitude is just fine. I don't need another PR. I don't need a stopwatch to calculate anything. Approval has been submitted. Now we wait for UK to do the rest. Once they submitted for approval, everyone should have just sat back and relaxed. Instead we get arguments about PR's, timelines, lawsuits, and future submittals. My timeline is this, by the end of the year I will have a glorious and peaceful retirement with more money than I ever thought I would have. Pay me now or pay me later, this is the year. That is my mental attitude. Now to prepare for effing snow storm coming
This post makes the most sense.
The more you post, the more I like Hoffman. And I really liked his posts in the past.
My favorite time of the year , next to Christmas, is when asco is hyped.
And just like that, the lawsuit discussion has vanished...
was it against billion dollar funds?
My guess is Roth ira purchases at discount price. Christmas cash
Isn't it once your Roth is 5 years old, you can withdraw all of it tax free, even an amount you just put in? I am throwing some more cash into it as soon as it settles.
Gary, I did sell shortly after the drop 50% of what I had due to bills. I can prove what I paid for and what I sold for. I expect nothing from NWBO to compensate me. If they win the case, I will be part of a class action suit if there is one. Maybe that is Posners game plan, win spoofing case and start class action suit. Has spoofing and manipulation effected NWBO SP, of course, I just dont see how they can calculate the true damage in numbers for NWBO.
"As a shareholder, even if damage to the share price is proven in court, you would be able to claim any damages only on any shares you sold. I'm not a lawyer but I know that legally speaking you haven't suffered any loss on paper, you only have any claim of loss when you sell. The disappointment we suffered of holding through a price dump when we were naturally expecting a higher value to our LT holdings is not a 'real' legal damage."
Thank You
paper loss. Not actual since you didnt sell. Is NWBO suing for you? If they win a verdict of spoofing, then a class action suit is likely. jmo
Thanks Doc, but you still haven't explained how they will come up with a figure. If I was MM, I would argue they never stopped anyone from buying or selling. Longs are proof of that. I would argue low volume and lack of transparency were the reason for the SP. You can pull on the judge and jury heartstrings all you want, but there has to be a way to prove loss.
absolutely, its all about the money. But, today is a holiday and no use spending it here. Start the new year off right.
I am. I am focused on approval. Others though seem to be focused on whistleblowers and lawsuits. Trying to keep it real. Go over last years predictions of "billions from lawsuit", that are just not going to happen. No matter how much NWBO is in the right.
I see not earning Judas coins was not on your resolutions this year. I'm glad to see your predictions since most were wrong last year, I'll bet the opposite.
ok, if its so simple, explain please how to calculate NWBOs losses.
Shareholder is the main word here. A shareholder can demonstrate an actual number by shares they bought/sold . A class action suit by shareholders would work better in this situation and I could see coming if the court rules in NWBOs favor, but how can they calculate actual numbers from the companys standpoint?
Yes, I know, but how are they going to come up with an actual number? Yes spoofing occured, yes there should be jail time and fine. But how are they going to calculate damages? Not estimate, but real time numbers? You cant say it went from 2$ to .30 in May and ask for damages if you didnt sell. People are trying to throw in future value of the company in the mix, but NWBO is not profitable yet. You can't prove a company would make x amount of dollars in the future. It is entirely possible, but its not a fact at this point. Court deals in facts.
There could be individual lawsuits or a class action suit because investors can show what they personally lost, but how can NWBO? You dont lose unless you sell. Yes, they commited a crime by spoofing, but figuring out an exact dollar amount, I don't see how, it would all be theoretical.
"4) Over the past 4 to 5 years the damage upside gains vs. downside losses are well over $3 to $4 billion."
The question is how are you going to prove this?
first post of the new year
Good Lord I got away from them a long time ago. I invested when they split. Everyone promised special dividend, rumors Musk was interested in them because they were in same warehouse, etc. Then special dividend was somehow turned into a symbol and was tradeable. Whole thing was fishy as hell and I got out before this fiasco. Funny thing is the CEO of that company would tweet every day, trying to be mysterious like musk. So I was not against NWBO sending out PRs sparingly, but maybe a little too sparingly. When you called broker about MMAT (fidelity), they had no clue either what was going on. But MMAT did jump from canadian market only to NYSE by merging with shell company...
Not a defeat, at most a distraction. Imo spoofing never stopped. The endgame is approval as we all know and that is in the works and there is nothing the mm's can do about it. Another pos note is investors don't like to invest when there is litigation going on. They were able to shine the light on the rats and hopefully it will do some regulatory good down the road.
There is/was no way to prove what damage was done. You would have to prove what SP would have been without manipulation. I never thought there was a way the could do that. The crime has been proven though, imo, and they even admitted to spoofing , but no way to calculate damages and there's too much money at stake for a politician not to get involved. I would like to see them go after AF for claiming trial was a failure to manipulate SP. Clearly he texted before the PR.
I don't think the lawsuit ever slowed down the spoofing, so I don't see a slaughter coming, not with nwbo filing in UK. FUDsters will try using judges ruling to make false sky is falling claims. Bring it, I need more shares.
Posters have been saying that for years, but met with silence. NWBO should come out with a pos forward looking statement, but I fear more of the silent strategy. I'm moving money to Roth and buying some more at bargain prices in New Year. Let the fud commence
Well the good news is we can add to Roths and buy at bargain in the New Year. Prepare for a long weekend of FUD. Marching orders are probably being drawn up for a new short attack to start new year, imo.
I posted 2 pictures
On Hoffman twitter. Honest to God I wanted to throw my phone in garbage, too complicated for an old man like me. Basically photos of front gate. I did not take photos of plant since I felt like an intruder for some reason lots of security which is understandable. I will say the plant is very impressive, new, and looks state of the art. I would contact the head of construction I provided with any questions.
It did not look like that. More impressive. I didn't get a good picture. But I encourage someone to call and get a tour. Off a main road and has trees around it, but I have to say, a very impressive building.
I took 2. Don't think I can attach here, not a payer. I will see if I can upload to possibly Hoffman's twitter page. Probably tomorrow night