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livefree-ordie isn't up to the task -- Fact Check: Did Kamala Harris Back Bail Fund For "Murderers And Rapists"?
Published Oct 25, 2022 at 5:51 AM EDT
VIDEO Harris Responds To Claims She Supported Fund That Bailed Violent Criminals
By Tom Norton
As the heat of the November midterms rises, each side of the aisle will be digging through their opponent's history and political records for even the slightest blemish.
The so-called culture wars remain a cornerstone of the Republican campaign, as does its traditional views on law and order, so the opportunity to discredit Vice President Kamala Harris on both points seemed tailormade for the GOP.
Vice president Kamala Harris was said to have supported a bail fund that helped release murderers
and rapists. Pictured here, Harris speaks near the scene of a mass shooting yesterday
during a Fourth of July... Jim Vondruska/Getty Images
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The Claim
Multiple tweets, sent on October 23, 2022, claim that Kamala Harris advocated a legal fund that has been used to help "murderers and rapists" get out of jail.
One tweet read: "Kamala Harris says it's "misinformation" that she promoted the Minnesota Freedom Fund, a far-left organization that has bailed violent criminals—including accused murderers and rapists — out of jail. She's lying."
The Facts
The Minnesota Freedom Fund was set up in 2016 to pay criminal bail and immigration bonds for people who can't afford them.
Although the fund has been operating for six years, it gained wider recognition in 2020 when it was used in the wake of George Floyd's death.
It was used to help bail out protestors in Minneapolis, where George Floyd was murdered, and received millions of dollars in donations helped by appeals from numerous celebrities .. https://www.newsweek.com/george-floyd-celebrities-donations-black-lives-matter-bail-funds-1508151 .
Among those in support of the fund was Kamala Harris, who tweeted "If you're able to, chip in now to the @MNFreedomFund to help post bail for those protesting on the ground in Minnesota."
Harris does not appear to have publicly shown her support for the fund or otherwise commented about it beyond the George Floyd protests in 2020.
While the fund has been associated with providing bail for a number of individuals accused or found guilty of crimes including murder and rape, these were not the people that Harris, quite clearly, was advocating for.
Harris has faced criticism for her support of the MFF since she first tweeted about it. News stories from right-leaning media outlets have gone to lengths to list suspects who have accessed the fund.
Fox News reignited the story recently with news that a man bailed out by MFF allegedly murdered someone while on release.
Shawn Michael Tillman, 33, faces one count of second-degree murder following the shooting of an unnamed 37-year-old man in May 2022. Mirella Ceja-Orozco and Elizer Darris, Co-Executive Directors of the MFF, in a statement responding to stories about Tillman, said he had been provided "bail support on a gross misdemeanor charge unrelated to the charges for which Mr. Tillman is currently on trial."
"It is a tragedy and a profound loss when a member of our community is taken by violence, and our thoughts are with the victim's family as they seek justice for their loved one through the criminal legal system."
Ceja-Orozco and Darris added that it was judges who decided whether and under what conditions to grant bail and "that it is only ability to pay that determines whether a person remains incarcerated or goes home to await the resolution of their case."
"Minnesota Freedom Fund believes wealth should not decide the difference between pre-trial detention and pre-trial release," they added.
In any case, not only were these charges made after the George Floyd protest, they are, again, completely unrelated to the direction of Harris' appeal on Twitter.
The MFF's mission brief has been slightly editorialized in some of the tweets about Harris too. While it offers the funds to support those left with bail charges they can't afford, granting bail is at the discretion of a judge. Ultimately, as a bond, if someone skips the terms of their bail they may be left with additional charges further to those they already face.
The vice president responded to claims being made about her support of the MFF on CBS earlier this week, stating "I think that unfortunately what we're seeing is people are playing political games right now.
"We're 18 days away from midterms and we have sadly not seen a lack of misinformation and disinformation and I think this is another one of those examples."
It's not the first time that Kamala Harris' support of MFF has been mischaracterized. In 20221, North Carolina Representative Madison Cawthorn claimed without evidence that Harris had donated to the fund, referring to protestors as "violent Antifa rioters."
Newsweek has contacted Kamala Harris for comment.
The Ruling
Needs Context.
In 2020 Kamala Harris did encourage donations towards the Minnesota Freedom Fund via Twitter.
However, her message was connected to protestors arrested in Minnesota who had taken to the streets after the death of George Floyd, some of whom faced lengthy arraignments in jail with no money for bail.
It appears that Harris has not spoken about the fund since. Others, charged later with crimes unconnected to the protests, were not advocated for release by Harris, and also were not offered bail funds for charges on those crimes.
https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-kamala-harris-back-bail-fund-murderers-rapists-1754314
livefree_ordie, Two strikes. It's minimally misinformation (likely a lie of yours
since you always claim to be well informed), and you did not include a link.
Totally free. You download it then get anyone your 3G bricks might want to talk to get it on theirs. They download to theirs themselves, or you send them an invite and they accept. Then no need for a 4G+. Video calls and all. And you can call anywhere in the world -- for free.
How MTG Has Made Our Jaws Drop
For connoisseurs of outrageous right-wing political rhetoric, U.S. Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene is the gift that keeps on giving. The Republican from Georgia was elected to Congress in 2020 as a known conspiracy theorist, and in her one term and the time leading up to it, she's attacked LGBTQ+ .. https://www.pride.com/lgbtq/?utm_campaign=SmartLinks .. people, prominent Democrats, a Supreme Court nominee, and many more, with remarks about pedophilia, space lasers starting forest fires, and the upcoming extinction of straight people. Plus there have been her noted malapropisms like "gazpacho police." Read on for a timeline of Greene's greatest hits.
Space Lasers, Political Murders, and Muslims Taking Over
MTG, the early years: Before her election, Greene had already left a long trail of crazy remarks, as one might expect from a supporter of QAnon conspiracy theories. QAnon is an unidentified internet user who has claimed the Democratic Party is a hotbed of pedophilia, Satanism, and more. When elected, she asserted she had rejected some of the QAnon ideas but didn't say which. Here are some of claims she made before running for office, whether they're from QAnon or not: A wildfire in California was started by a laser "beamed from space and controlled by a prominent Jewish banking family with connections to powerful Democrats," as The New York Times .. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/29/us/politics/marjorie-taylor-greene-republicans.html .. summed it up. Bill and Hillary Clinton had John F. Kennedy Jr. killed because he was a political rival (Kennedy died in a plane crash in 1999). A plane probably didn't crash into the Pentagon on September 11, 2001. President Obama is a secret Muslim, and the election of two Muslim women to Congress amounts to a "takeover." You get the picture.
Don't Hang 'Hate America Flags'
February 2021: Early in her term, Greene endorsed legislation that would ban the display of Pride flags and what she called "hate America flags" at U.S. embassies .. https://www.advocate.com/politics/2021/2/01/qanon-congresswoman-ban-pride-hate-america-flags-embassies . "President Biden's State Department has already raised a flag over our embassies that doesn't represent the vast majority of Americans," she said in a press release, apparently meaning the Pride flag. She also said the Black Lives Matter flag represents "a group who wants to erase our history and bring mass destruction to our country through Communism." The legislation has gone nowhere.
Equality Act Will Destroy 'God’s Creation'
February 2021: Greene went on several unhinged rants .. https://www.advocate.com/politics/2021/2/24/antigay-marjorie-taylor-greene-says-equality-act-protects-pedophiles .. against the proposed Equality Act, which would outlaw anti-LGBTQ+ discrimination nationally. In a speech on the House floor, she predicted apocalyptic consequences if it passes. "God created us male and female," she said. "In his image, he created us. The Equality Act that we are to vote on this week destroys God's creation. It also completely annihilates women's rights and religious freedoms. It can be handled completely different to stop discrimination without destroying women's rights, little girls' rights in sports, and religious freedom, violating everything we hold dear in God's creation."
Anti-Trans Trolling
February 2021: That same month, she trolled a fellow representative .. https://www.advocate.com/politics/2021/2/25/rep-marjorie-taylor-greene-hangs-sign-trolling-pol-trans-child , Illinois Democrat Marie Newman, whose office is across the hall from hers. Newman had hung up a transgender .. https://www.advocate.com/transgender?utm_campaign=SmartLinks .. outside her office in support of her trans daughter. Greene responded by putting up a sign reading, "There are TWO genders: Male & Female. Trust the Science!" She also tweeted a denunciation of Newman for supporting the Equality Act, saying once again that the act would "destroy women's rights and religious freedoms."
https://www.advocate.com/politics/2022/8/12/11-times-marjorie-taylor-green-was-worst#rebelltitem7
Gawd, Greene. Learn the science .. https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=174317473 !!!
Sounds good to me. I haven't graduated to a laptop yet. Only got a first mobile at 80, then they wiped 3G meaning
i can't use the guts of it to talk to anyone. WhatsApp gets around that problem until a better phone comes around.
Tell anyone who doesn't understand the sexual continuum to look at faces. The more you look the more you realize how
many men's faces could be women's and even more how many women's could be men's. Greene is a good example.
hap0206, The ones who ignorantly blame inflation on Biden describes his supporters more accurately.
In Trump's America a man who habitually cheats and lies is a hero. Worthy trials are kangaroo courts. Gag orders by judges attempting to uphold American law are scams. A lawbreaker, rightly charged for breaking laws, is a scapegoat. Those who believe a man who abuses women and who spits on America's rule of law is suited to the presidency feel persecuted when justice is served on the man. They believe a racist who when president was talked out of attacking Iran, and who encourages racism in American voters is fit to be president. That self-claimed persecuted ex-president promises his self-claimed persecuted supporters he will ban immigration from all Muslim countries. That racist encourages and panders to Islamophobic fears in millions of Americans by promising the ban. If you believe what Trump promises consider what that means:
According to the Pew Research Center in 2010, there were 50 Muslim-majority countries.[16][17] Around 62% of the world's Muslims live in the Asia-Pacific region (from Turkey to Indonesia), with over one billion adherents.[18] According to the Pew Research Center in 2017, the largest Muslim population in a country is in Indonesia, a country home to 12.7% of the world's Muslims, followed by Pakistan (11.1%), India (10.9%) and Bangladesh (9.2%).[8][19]
P - About 20% of Muslims live in the Arab world.[20] In the Middle East, Iran and Turkey are the largest Muslim-majority countries, while Egypt and Nigeria in Africa have the same status.[8][19]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_by_country#Denominations
Would the man ban immigration from 50 countries if the fucking disaster was elected again? Of course he wouldn't, yet he promises he would.
The man's supporters believe a man who argues assassination of political opponents is ok is suited to the presidency.
Democracy in the U.S.A. is at a real crossroads. The world is watching with bated breath as social disruption
gives Trump real reason to cheer. Yes, he exploits that for his own benefit. How many Trump supporters
are hijacking the demonstrations against Israel now.
Cheers and distortions: Trump feeds on raucous rallies as trial disrupts run
"Att: sideeki wink ‘A lot would have to go wrong for Biden to lose’: can Allan Lichtman predict the 2024 election?'
His return to the trail offered Trump a chance, if only for a day, to escape the cold realities of the courtroom and bask in the strength he projects for his supporters.
By Isaac Arnsdorf, Sarah Leach, Patrick Marley and Jeff Stein
May 2, 2024 at 2:00 p.m. EDT
Former president Donald Trump speaks at a campaign rally Wednesday in Waukesha, Wis.
(Sara Stathas for The Washington Post)
WAUKESHA, Wis. — Donald Trump’s words were almost exactly the same, but the change of scenery made all the difference.
On Tuesday, he spoke as a criminal defendant: in a dingy, echoing courthouse hallway, behind a metal barricade, flanked by a grim-faced lawyer, speaking to a handful of reporters and a single TV camera.
On Wednesday, he was the presumptive Republican nominee: backed by American flags, greeted as a hero by thousands of fans who chanted his name. This time, when Trump railed against the judge and prosecutors, denied any wrongdoing and claimed the trial was helping his poll numbers, the crowd booed and laughed and cheered.
“You know, I have come here today from New York City, where I’m being forced to sit for days on end in a kangaroo courtroom,” he said Wednesday at the second of two campaign stops, in Freeland, Mich. “They do it to try and take your powers away, try and take your candidate away.”
He added pointedly: “We got to get them out.”
Trump’s return to campaigning for the first time since the trial began offered him a chance, if only for a day, to escape the cold (at times literally) realities of the courtroom and bask in the triumphant, defiant strength he projects for his supporters. For their part, rallygoers said they’re experiencing the trial through the prism of pro-Trump media, assured that the case was unfounded and could be backfiring. Like Trump, they described the proceedings in at times distorted or exaggerated terms.
“That’s why I’m here, is because they don’t let him campaign, it’s his only day off,” said Steven Franzen, who drove here from McHenry, Ill., and didn’t make it inside the expo center, whose capacity was capped at 1,200. “The less they see of him the more they want him, people do. It has a reverse effect.”
Trump’s aides have seethed at how the court calendar splits the week, stranding Wednesday in the middle, believing the judge did so to make it harder for Trump to campaign, even though he has consistently scheduled his trials that way. Trump himself has struggled with .. https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2024/04/27/trump-trial-election-2024-campaign/?itid=lk_inline_manual_14 .. the disruption to his routine of daily golf and being required to sit through .. https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2024/04/27/trump-trial-election-2024-campaign/?itid=lk_inline_manual_14 .. technical and sometimes tedious proceedings without his phone, according to people close to him.
In remarks outside the courtroom, he has frequently complained about the temperature and being kept away from campaigning in swing states. In those remarks and social media posts, he has protested the order from Justice Juan Merchan that prohibits Trump from attacking witnesses in the case. Such gag orders are common in criminal cases, and on Tuesday Merchan fined Trump for nine violations.
“I’m not even supposed to be, I would say, talking to you, because he gagged me,” Trump said in Michigan on Wednesday. “I have a relationship with the people, and I explain it to them, and they understand it’s a scam.”
Trump has routinely told his supporters he was “being indicted for you, thank you very much,” often sounding sarcastic. But when he recited the line here on Wednesday, to thundering applause, he sounded like he meant it.
“I greatly appreciate it,” he said.
A vendor pushes a cart of merchandise toward the parking lot as people arrive for a Trump
campaign rally at an airport in Freeland, Mich. (Nick Hagen/EPA-EFE/Shutterstock)
Later, in Michigan, feeding off the crowd’s energy, Trump put a rosier spin on his predicament while reasserting his claim, without evidence, that the four criminal cases against him are a coordinated political strike against his candidacy and the MAGA movement he champions.
“If I didn’t run or if I came in fourth, I’d have no problem right now,” he said. “I’d be in a beautiful someplace. But you know what, honestly? Look at this crowd. I’d rather be with you.”
While that theme unquestionably helped Trump consolidate Republican support in the primary, the effect on November’s election is less clear, with wide-open possibilities for how the trial could proceed and how voters will perceive it.
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For now, his supporters share Trump’s confidence that the trial would rebound to his benefit by providing free publicity and portraying him as a victim.
“Right, wrong or indifferent, people feel they’re being persecuted,” Matthew Bocklund, the former chairman of the St. Croix Republican Party, said at the speech here. “They see one man up there being persecuted, and Trump has transcended the presidency and he has now become them. So just like he says, he always says, well, I’m on trial for you.”
Even a rare Democrat who attended the Michigan rally just to hear Trump out said she was concerned the trial would boost his public support. “I don’t know why people feel like we’re after the man,” said Melinda Plaugher, of Midland, Mich., who wore a Biden shirt to the rally and voted for Nikki Haley in the Republican primary. “I worry about our country and I worry about his policies and his unfriendliness and his divisiveness.”
Trump appeared to relish Wednesday’s doubleheader, speaking for more than an hour at both stops. The prepared remarks heavily emphasized economics, but Trump frequently meandered and interrupted his text with playful asides — when reciting grocery prices, he added, “I love chicken.” In both speeches, he went on extended unscripted defenses of his support for letting state lawmakers set their own abortion regulations instead of a federal ban.
“So far I have been 92 percent off teleprompter and 8 percent on teleprompter,” he said at one point, exaggerating, to cheers. “But isn’t it nice to have a president who doesn’t need a teleprompter?” At another point he stepped out from behind the lectern to readjust a teleprompter that had blown askew in the wind.
He swiped at Haley, who has not endorsed him, and took exception to being called unpopular. Trump’s approval .. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/ .. and favorability .. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/favorability/donald-trump/ .. ratings have never been net positive. In last week’s GOP primary in the crucial battleground of Pennsylvania, Trump won 84 percent of the vote, while 17 percent voted for Haley, who dropped out in March.
He polled the crowd on which nickname to use to disparage President Biden. He vilified Palestinian refugees as bringing “jihad” and vowed to reimpose a ban on travel from Muslim-majority countries, and he praised New York police who cleared protesters from a Columbia University building.
And as he has often done, Trump misrepresented economic data to compare his record to Biden’s.
He baselessly asserted that “almost all” job growth was for undocumented immigrants. (It is true that job growth is higher among foreign-born workers since the pandemic because more of the native-born population is retiring.) He said a record 73 percent of Americans were living paycheck to paycheck, and the campaign provided a survey as support. But Federal Reserve data shows more than half of Americans have at least three months of savings available, the third-highest level on record, according to Matt Darling, an economic policy expert at the Niskanen Center, a Washington think tank.
He falsely suggested new manufacturing jobs hit zero under Biden for the first time ever. Trump bragged that the stock market hit record levels during his presidency, though the indexes rose higher since. Without evidence, he accused employment and economic figures of being “fake,” which Michael Strain, an economist at the right-leaning American Enterprise Institute, called “a reckless and irresponsible thing to say.”
Trump said he would refuse to spend money under Biden’s signature Inflation Reduction Act, deliberately defying a 1974 law that requires the executive branch to follow congressional funding decisions.
Trump maintained that when he was president he could have prosecuted his former opponent, Hillary Clinton, and he has said if he wins in November he will assign prosecutors to investigate Biden’s family.
“The ultimate verdict on this travesty will not come in the courtroom. It will come at the ballot box,” Trump said in Michigan. “And the American people are going to find Crooked Joe Biden guilty of trying to destroy our country.”
Arnsdorf and Marley reported from Waukesha. Leach reported from Freeland. Stein reported from Washington.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/05/02/trump-rallies-trial-wisconsin-michigan/
Naw, not that bad. Maybe he's afraid to ask janice.
Why ask me?
hap0206, So now, because of that pill, you think the six week ban in Fla. and all those other states is fair to women.
"I didn't think there was a problem in FL because Janice said there was a "get regular" pill -- every womwn
i've "known" knew they were "late" within the two weeks following the expected date of their "cycle" -- geez"
That's what you just said.
I know you aren't. You said you didn't think there was a problem with abortions in Florida. Now you know.
You geez was an old geezer instinctive reaction to an informative post for you.
That's bad luck. Never worry about not replying "in a timely manner" to
any of mine, my being in Australia our times are all out of whack anyway.
Cycle are seen to start from beginning of last period. Ban after six week effectively leaves 1-2 weeks to be
sure of pregnancy and to arrange an abortion if desired. And irregular cycles are not unusual for women.
"I do not see the problem in FL — Janice says there is a “get regular” pill that those missing their
period, which they surely know if they are two weeks late, can take so no abortion required"
Related: [...] Remember this post - hap0206, Invalid, disingenuous, misrepresentation recaps of yours, they are.
[...]The Absurd Pregnancy Math behind the ‘Six-Week’ Abortion Ban
"Briefs Draw Battle Lines as Texas Abortion Law Nears Supreme Court
"Texas Abortion Ban Goes Too Far For Even Some Republicans: ‘A Little Bit Extreme’"
The law the Supreme Court just failed to block is not just a blow to women; it’s biologically nonsensical
[...]But in reality, the six-week ban limits abortion care to only four weeks after conception, and only one week, realistically, from when a person could find out they are pregnant. At this stage, an embryo has implanted and has a neural tube, and the blood vessel that will develop into the heart begins pulsing. This pulsing, or “heartbeat,” is the basis for the emotional appeal of these bills. But at this early stage, the embryo is still in the process of differentiating organs and won’t be classified as a “fetus” until about a month later.
[,...]This is where pregnancy math meets menstrual math, which is further complicated by the limits of hormonally detecting pregnancy. Menstrual math, or predicting when a “missed” period occurs, is often based on an assumed 28-day cycle. If you have a regular 28-day cycle, the expected missed period should happen two weeks after conception. That gives you about two weeks before that “six-week” threshold to take a pregnancy test and see your doctor. But it’s recommended that you wait for a week after your missed period to take a pregnancy test, because if you take it too early, you may get a false negative. Pregnancy tests measure human chorionic gonadatropin (hCG), a hormone produced after implantation. Though it can be potentially detected shortly after implantation, at about a week after conception and “three weeks” pregnant, it may not build up to detectable levels until a couple of weeks later. Thus, for patients with a predictable 28-day cycle, there is only about one week before the “six-week” threshold to confirm pregnancy. For someone who knows they want an abortion, taking a test, getting confirmation from a health care provider and having the abortion would have to occur within a single week.
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Back to Christianity causing death, at least what extreme Christians call human deaths.
Att. livefree_ordie - What the Christian Right Gets Wrong About Birth Control
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Florida's 6-week abortion ban takes effect, cutting off access in much of the South
More than 9,000 people traveled to Florida for abortions last year. The new law
means the state is no longer a refuge for abortion access in the South.
VIDEO
May 1, 2024, 6:30 PM GMT+10
By Marissa Parra, Juliette Arcodia and Aria Bendix
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JACKSONVILLE, Fla. — A ban on abortions after six weeks of pregnancy took effect in Florida on Wednesday just after midnight.
Before that, the state had been a refuge for abortion access in the South after the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade. Florida banned abortions after 15 weeks in 2022, but the vast majority of its neighboring states had stricter restrictions .. https://www.nbcnews.com/data-graphics/abortion-state-tracking-trigger-laws-bans-restrictions-rcna36199 , so more than 9,300 people traveled here last year for abortion care.
That's more than double the number in 2020, according to data from the Guttmacher Institute, a research organization that supports abortion access. Around 84,000 abortions were performed in Florida last year, about 1 in 12 nationwide.
Out-of-state abortions in Florida
More than twice as many out-of-state patients received abortions at Florida clinics from 2020 to 2023. These abortions account for 11% of all abortions in the state, up from 5% in 2020.
This bar chart compares the Florida abortion estimates among out-of-state
patients of 2020 and 2023. In 2020, there were 4,120 abortions. In 2023, 9,340.
2020 4,120
2023 9,340
Notes: The abortions counted are restricted to those in the formal U.S. health care system and include medication abortions.
Source: Guttmacher Institute
Graphic: Joe Murphy / NBC News
Florida’s new law will curtail that trend. It is now a felony in the state to perform or actively participate in an abortion after six weeks' gestation, which is about two weeks after a missed period. The ban has exceptions for rape, incest and human trafficking up to 15 weeks of pregnancy. State law also allows abortions to save a woman’s life or to prevent “substantial and irreversible” physical impairment, but doctors might still worry about their legal liability.
“It’s going to cause delays in care that are going to cost women significant health hazards or risks,” Dr. Daniel Sacks, a provider at Presidential Women’s Center in West Palm Beach, said of the new law.
Abortion providers in Florida worked to see as many patients as possible in the weeks before the ban took effect. They said some patients were confused about Florida’s restrictions and timelines, especially given that about a year has passed since Gov. Ron DeSantis signed the six-week ban. The policy had been temporarily blocked ahead of a state Supreme Court ruling last month that cleared the way for it to become law.
Florida also requires two in-person visits to a clinic, 24 hours apart, ahead of an abortion — a rule some patients don’t know about.
Cassie, 20, a native Floridian who asked that her last name be withheld to maintain her privacy, had her first consultation at an abortion clinic in Fort Pierce on Monday. She hadn’t been aware that the six-week ban was scheduled to take effect two days later.
Cassie, 20, received an abortion in Florida this week.Mark Ringo / NBC News
“I knew that they were trying to do it, but I did not know that it actually happened,” Cassie said.
She was less than six weeks pregnant, but she acknowledged that she could have easily missed that deadline once the new law took effect.
Cassie lives in an RV with her partner and her 1-year-old son. She wants another child, she said, but can’t afford it right now.
“I would not be able to provide for my son as best as I could,” she said, adding that a second child would make it “hard to even afford to eat or even to pay for small expenditures like tires on the car.”
On her way into the clinic Monday, she stopped to confront a protester who urged her to continue her pregnancy.
“First thing I said was ‘Will you help me and my family get a mortgage?’” she said.
She added that she feels for the women in Florida who might now have to carry unwanted pregnancies or travel long distances to obtain abortions.
“It’s just not right to tell a woman that there’s a certain amount of time that you have to have an abortion,” she said. “I wish I could give those women a hug and help them through it.”
INTERACTIVE map - Abortion by state
Anti-abortion-rights groups are celebrating the new law.
“Florida has taken efforts to provide a sanctuary for life, especially the most vulnerable, and provide significant financial resources for women to provide a wide range of options and resources that would protect them and facilitate their decision to choose life,” said Mat Staver, founder and chairman of Liberty Counsel, a legal organization based in Florida that opposes abortion rights.
He pointed to $25 million the state has set aside to expand the Florida Pregnancy Care Network, a group of so-called crisis pregnancy centers. Such centers try to persuade pregnant women not to have abortions and offer them counseling and supplies, but some have been known to provide inaccurate or misleading information .. https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0255152 .
Nine Southern states have total abortion bans, and Georgia and South Carolina ban abortions after about six weeks. So for people in Florida and elsewhere in the Southeast who want to end pregnancies, the closest options are now most likely in North Carolina, where abortions are allowed up to 15 weeks, and Virginia.
An image showing messages written on the bathroom wall at a Planned Parenthood clinic in Jacksonville, Fla.Marissa Parra / NBC News
Florida Access Network, a fund that helps people in Florida with the cost of abortions — including appointments, food and travel — is prepared for a wave of patients needing assistance with out-of-state abortions.
“We’re living in a new reality where people are going to be forced to travel long distances to get care, and many people don’t have the resources or the ability to do so,” said Stephanie Loraine Piñeiro, the organization’s executive director.
A Woman’s Choice, a network of abortion clinics with a location in Jacksonville, opened a clinic in Virginia last month in anticipation of Florida's ban. It also operates three clinics in North Carolina. But Kelly Flynn, the network's CEO, said those other locations won't be realistic options for many people.
This week, she said, women came to the Jacksonville clinic from Mississippi and Louisiana seeking abortions before Florida's ban took effect.
abortion clinic florida bathroom messages
An image showing messages written on the bathroom wall at a Planned Parenthood clinic in Jacksonville, Fla.Marissa Parra / NBC News
Going forward, Flynn said, the network plans to help women in the South understand their few remaining legal options if they want abortions.
"When they call our call center, we’ll get them that information — we'll try to help them with logistics, travel, food, gas to help get them to North Carolina and Virginia," she said.
Marissa Parra and Juliette Arcodia reported from Jacksonville and Aria Bendix from
New York City. Bracey Harris contributed reporting from Jackson, Mississippi.
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/florida-ban-abortions-6-weeks-takes-effect-rcna150018
My mistake was having Day on the bench.
Clear diction a big plus for me. On leaving yesterday i'd arrived at Rock 'n' Roll Lifestyle
My last 'no more change' was a decision not to drop Scott, his +2 after two wasn't good to see.
Cake is good, has run through now to The Guitar Man
If your S Kim is S H, yes, considered him too. Couldn't think of him, just snuck in.
That's what angers me more about the American nutcases, 'cuz i love cashews.
Thanks for the added info. Here's more
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https://www.nationmaster.com/nmx/ranking/cashew-nuts-production
Yay, that's a blast from the past. Another 15h the target. OOps, years.
And i love cashews. Nuts to those American nuts.
Oh yeah, the other conspiracy nutcase. Had a feeling there was another. If they really, really, really... cared about America they would drop out and tell all their supporters this election is too important to be draining even one vote from Joe. No good reason why they couldn't wait four years.
LOLs
Hang on i'll go check the ones i got left with -- Si Woo is one if that's your S Kim. Day is two. Noren and Jaeger are four. Had Tom Kim in and dumped him after using that compare stats gizmo. Those are the ones that often backfire, the gut ones in and dropped because of damn stats. And Im obviously was considered, don't recall why he isn't in mine. GGGGLLLL!!! And with your other two too. My other two are Spieth and Scott.
How do Eskimos keep their food from freezing?
https://www.bestfoodfacts.org/question/how-to-eskimos-keep-their-food-from-freezing/
Only a relative few Muslims still kill for Allah and some angels. And Christians still do their with Bush's Iraq not that long ago. Back into the Stone Age, baby!! Yeah, prominent Dems too blamed trusting Bush's intelligence for their support. And Florida, sheesh, 6 weeks, undoubtedly will lead to some suicides.
LOL Echoes through the Diehard camp. Just minutes ago while mutilating an orange to go into the porridge the
thought of shifting out one of my aussies came again. Nah, for me too. It's 1st food breakfast at 2:47pm here now.
Ah so, could have checked. Thanks. So it's only the anti-vaccine
insult to the Kennedy legacy dick. Or is there another i've missed.
Manchin could ONLY help Trump IF -- Manchin floats Romney or Portman as hypothetical VP picks for a third party bid
“Hypothetically, if I was picking my running mate, really who I would ask right now is Mitt Romney,” the West Virginia Democrat said.
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/15/manchin-romney-president-2024-00141654
And that would be a dick of a thing to do -- this special election is one time to put America and democracy before personal wants.
LOL Only this morning switched again. Have huge doubts but have stopped. GL
Soldier on son. You are doing a good job.
LOL Sure do relate to your looking for answers that never come. When the end comes, if i have time for them, one thought will be -- well, lol, one top human trait is looking for answers, and though i haven't contributed nearly as much as so many others have, i have at least contributed more than many to looking ...
Hmm, just realized this has been about 7h non-stop. Don't think it's particularly healthy for anyone. Been fun though. LOL Noon. Breakfast due.
hap0206, Two things we agree on, gods are imaginings of human mind, and imagining is fun. Our difference there is that i would
never have fun imaging something so close to something i knew had in toto brought so much destruction to our place on earth.
Ah, your brother, understood. My dad went into medicine because his older brother did. Yep, and your environment. Yep, totally relate to your walking into a reserve unit. Can feel it now, the start of an adventure. I was born in Sheffield in '42 to the sounds and in an environment of war. Occasionally i've wondered if an innate aversion to violence can start in the womb, then always rejected it as only a wondering idea. Never got to research there.
Yep, -- lol, a video of which you spoke on entering, am listening while composng this post -- the Domino Theory
By: History.com Editors
Updated: November 9, 2022 | Original: November 9, 2009
The second wave of combat helicopters of the 1st Air Cavalry Division fly over an RTO and his commander on an isolated landing zone during Operation Pershing, a search and destroy mission on the Bong Son Plain and An Lao Valley of South Vietnam, during the Vietnam War. The two American soldiers are waiting for the second wave to come in.
Patrick Christain/Getty Images
Table of Contents
1. North and South Vietnam
2. What Was the Domino Theory?
3. U.S. Involvement in Vietnam Deepens
4. Nations Are Not Dominoes
5. Sources
.. to end ..
Nations Are Not Dominoes
The domino theory is now largely discredited, having failed to take into account the character of the North Vietnamese and Viet Cong struggle in the Vietnam War.
By assuming Ho Chi Minh was a pawn of the communist giants Soviet Union and China, American policymakers failed to see that the actual goal of Ho and his supporters was Vietnamese independence, not the spread of communism.
In the end, even though the American effort to block a communist takeover failed, and North Vietnamese forces marched into Saigon in 1975, communism did not spread throughout the rest of Southeast Asia. With the exception of Laos and Cambodia, the nations of the region remained out of communist control.
More videos too -- https://www.history.com/topics/cold-war/domino-theory
brooklyn13. No, it doesn't take one to know one, but one - yourself - certainly should be able to accept when you come over as an idiot and when you do not. You should be able to, rather you spend your time here now reacting defensively.
"It takes one to know one. I do question your reading comprehension, I wrote that I’m a registered Dem, so obviously I think we are less corrupt. Obviously less corrupt but not corruption free. Which was my point, after all
P - But Mayor Adam’s, Sen Manchin, Sen. Menendez et al, are not shining examples of political righteousness."
Am pretty sure i acknowledged that you were a registered Dem, and that i said to you your being registered as a Dem had nothing to do with our discussion. Similar to what i said about you saying where you were born. Yet you curiously question my reading ability.
Again you play cherry-picker. Fuck i even gave you a Wikipedia hint. Go fucking search, instead of flailing around like only an idiot would.
Gerrymandering is a curse. In Australia independent commissions draw political boundaries, state and federal.
Chapter 8: Drawing electoral boundaries
All elections involve boundaries that define which voters get to elect which candidates to represent them in legislative bodies. These boundaries define what in Australia are called electoral divisions or electorates.
Electoral boundaries
In federal elections for the Senate, the electorates are defined by the state and territory boundaries. Elections for upper houses in New South Wales and South Australia and for the single house of the ACT Legislative Assembly use their state or territory boundaries to define a single electorate.
For all other elections in Australia, including elections for the House of Representatives, boundaries have to be specifically drawn to group voters into different electorates. The 2019 federal election required boundaries to be drawn for House of Representatives electorates in all the states and territories except NSW and WA, which resulted in the overall number of electorates increasing from 150 to 151.
The laws concerning drawing electoral boundaries are important and controversial because those boundaries can affect who wins elections.
Hot Tip: Distribution and redistribution
The process of drawing electoral boundaries for the first time is called a ‘distribution’. After electoral boundaries have been drawn once, they can be adjusted in what is called a ‘redistribution’.
Who draws the lines?
In Australia, committees of public officials draw and redraw electoral boundaries. These committees are established by law to be independent of the government of the day, the parliament, political parties and other groups who might have an interest in drawing up electorates to suit their political purposes.
At the Commonwealth level, the Australian Electoral Commission oversees the process of electorate drawing and appoints redistribution committees for each state and territory. Each committee consists of the Electoral Commissioner, the senior electoral officer in the state or territory, the state or territory Surveyor-General and the state or territory Auditor-General. Similar committees draw up the boundaries for state and territory elections.
At various points, the process of drawing electoral boundaries involves publicity and public consultation. For House of Representatives electorates, the redistribution committees invite suggestions from the public before they begin to redraw boundaries and consider objections after they have released a draft set of proposed boundaries. Political parties make submissions to the committees to try to persuade them to draw boundaries in ways that will favour their candidates. The final decision on electoral boundaries, however, stays with the committee.
Having an independent body to draw electoral boundaries may seem an obvious way to avoid or reduce the manipulation of boundaries by governments and political parties. It is not a universal practice, however, even among western democracies. In the United States, for example, the state legislatures (the equivalents of Australian state parliaments) commonly draw the electoral boundaries for state and national elections. This means that American redistribution processes are much more involved with party politics than they are in Australia. The Democratic and Republican parties have both used their majorities in state legislatures to draw up boundaries that favour their own candidates over opponents.
Gerrymanders
https://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/find-legal-answers/books-online/hot-topics-voting-and-elections/drawing-electoral-boundaries
You have good taste
Newman worked for multiple firms as an agency executive. She began her own consulting firm in 2005.[7] She also established her own nonprofit to combat bullying after one of her children was bullied.[7] Governor Pat Quinn appointed her to a regional anti-bullying task force and Sears Holdings Corporation asked her to establish a national anti-bullying coalition of 70 nonprofit organizations.
Newman has worked on several Democratic campaigns for public office. Between 2015 and 2017 she lobbied for gun control measures such as background checks.[8]
Career after U.S. House of Representatives
In April 2023, Newman was appointed chief executive officer of Little City Foundation, a social services organization serving people with intellectual and developmental disabilities. Little City serves over 900 people through its residential facilities, day programs, and at-home assistance in northern Illinois.[9] Newman had a personal connection to Little City, having volunteered when she was young. Two of her cousins received Little City services.[10]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_Newman
brooklyn13, that's your opinion and i'm just glad most others do not agree with you. Where you were born means nothing to this discussion. Mayor Daly, haha, you ain't in an orchard. There are posts on this board that clearly substantiate the fact Dems are relative clean-skins when it comes to criminality. I recall clearly blackhawks, think it was post a bit from Wikipedia. And i and other here contributed to that discussion long time ago.
"Correct me if I’m wrong, but basically you’re saying blah blah blah.
I was born in the hospital named for Boss Hague’s mother. You know basically zero
about Democratic Party members corruption, historical and contemporary.
Mayor Daley, anyone?"
And there you go yet again, even after yourself saying you visit here infrequently you yet again presume to say you know more about dirty Democratic party politics than i have read. more than we have seen here. You know squat about what we have posted here, and even less about what i have known. Nada.
Yet, even after that obviously valid point having been pressed upon you more than twice before, you continue to repeat yourself. That my moronic man, is idiotic.