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Re: hap0206 post# 464122

Friday, 03/01/2024 7:47:22 PM

Friday, March 01, 2024 7:47:22 PM

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hap0206, Invalid, disingenuous, misrepresentation recaps of yours, they are.

" Nice recap there in your post

Abortion -- state or national issue
Islam -- peaceful or enemy of the west
China -- peaceful or enemy of the USA over Taiwon
Putin -- mention MAD or let him have Ukraine

Trump or Biden
"

Not nice. I did not say Islam was more peaceful than Christianity.
Fact is both are thought to be peaceful by billions, but neither are.
And Islam isn't the enemy, but many practicing that religion are.
And Putin is a Cristian and an enemy of the U.S.
And China is another huge developing country not yet considered as an enemy as Putin the Christian is.
And i'm sure Biden and Putin have discussed your MUD MAD.

And of course your F rated recap is only a distraction from the fact your vote for Trump is a morally and ethically inexcusable one.

So seriously your recap is neither accurate nor fair nor competent. As another matter of fact it's
nonsense, which leads into the driving Christian stance against abortion being nonsense also:

The Absurd Pregnancy Math behind the ‘Six-Week’ Abortion Ban
"Briefs Draw Battle Lines as Texas Abortion Law Nears Supreme Court
"Texas Abortion Ban Goes Too Far For Even Some Republicans: ‘A Little Bit Extreme’"
The law the Supreme Court just failed to block is not just a blow to women; it’s biologically nonsensical
[...]But in reality, the six-week ban limits abortion care to only four weeks after conception, and only one week, realistically, from when a person could find out they are pregnant. At this stage, an embryo has implanted and has a neural tube, and the blood vessel that will develop into the heart begins pulsing. This pulsing, or “heartbeat,” is the basis for the emotional appeal of these bills. But at this early stage, the embryo is still in the process of differentiating organs and won’t be classified as a “fetus” until about a month later.
[,...]This is where pregnancy math meets menstrual math, which is further complicated by the limits of hormonally detecting pregnancy. Menstrual math, or predicting when a “missed” period occurs, is often based on an assumed 28-day cycle. If you have a regular 28-day cycle, the expected missed period should happen two weeks after conception. That gives you about two weeks before that “six-week” threshold to take a pregnancy test and see your doctor. But it’s recommended that you wait for a week after your missed period to take a pregnancy test, because if you take it too early, you may get a false negative. Pregnancy tests measure human chorionic gonadatropin (hCG), a hormone produced after implantation. Though it can be potentially detected shortly after implantation, at about a week after conception and “three weeks” pregnant, it may not build up to detectable levels until a couple of weeks later. Thus, for patients with a predictable 28-day cycle, there is only about one week before the “six-week” threshold to confirm pregnancy. For someone who knows they want an abortion, taking a test, getting confirmation from a health care provider and having the abortion would have to occur within a single week.
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Back to Christianity causing death, at least what extreme Christians call human deaths.

Att. livefree_ordie - What the Christian Right Gets Wrong About Birth Control
[...]
In the Hobby Lobby case, the religious lobby articulated their beliefs, similar to Strader’s, that life begins at conception, the moment when a sperm fertilizes an egg to produce an embryo, and they define an “abortion” to include the failure of an embryo to implant in the uterus after fertilization. They then argue, inaccurately, that some methods of birth control including IUDs work by preventing embryos from implanting in the uterus, thereby causing what they call “abortions.”
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Note added Mar. 1, 2024: On the use of terms there: Actually a sperm fertilizes an egg to form a zygote and an embryo isn't formed until --
* An embryo is termed a fetus beginning in the 11th week of pregnancy, which is the 9th week of development after fertilization of the egg.
*A zygote is a single-celled organism resulting from a fertilized egg. The zygote divides to become a ball of cells that eventually implants in the wall of the uterus.
*This ball of cells, known as a blastocyst, develops into the embryo and placenta.
https://www.medicinenet.com/embryo_vs_fetus_differences_week-by-week/article.htm
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I will call these embryo abortions,
as opposed to the medical term for abortion, which is the loss of a pregnancy after an embryo has attached to the uterus. The medical establishment only considers someone pregnant after the successful attachment of an embryo to the uterus because only then can we measure the pregnancy hormone HCG thus diagnosing, or confirming, someone as pregnant.
P - Strader and Hobby Lobby are part of a vocal minority on the religious right claiming the use of some methods of birth control is immoral, strategically .. https://www.americanprogress.org/article/efforts-anti-choice-advocates-redefine-limit-contraception/ .. conflating use of birth control with having an abortion. This contrasts with 92 percent of Americans who consider using birth control a morally acceptable behavior, according to a recent Gallup poll .. https://news.gallup.com/poll/257858/birth-control-tops-list-morally-acceptable-issues.aspx .
[...]
[This post was ignored by livefree_ordie, February, 2023:
Nonsense. A zygote has no feeling and suffers no loss if aborted. You have no thought there but selfish authoritarian,
patriarchal ideology. If you cared beyond that you would appreciate much more about respect for women. And about life. See:
Texas’ restrictive abortion law previews a post-Roe America
"Making Abortion Murder
"How I Lost Faith in the “Pro-Life” Movement .. bits ..
Without Birth Control: 6 zygotes will “die”
With Birth Control: 2 zygotes will “die”""

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The scientific fact not addressed, or not known, by the religious right is that embryo abortions are much more common when no birth control method is used. Researchers have estimated .. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12206468/ .. when a couple does not use birth control (the default when contraception is less accessible) 30 percent of embryos created never implant and another 30 percent briefly implant before being passed from the body without the woman even noticing, adding up to a majority of embryos formed. In other words, the default state of sex without contraception is embryo abortions—or what the right sees as a large loss of potential life.
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