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Jay, your not the first person I know that used that option.
Hospice has much more flexibility particularly in pain treatment.
Thanks Jay. I only had a taste of the helplessness and frustration you had to endure.
We are fortunate in that we live in a small town and know a lot of ICU nurses and could communicate a lot better than a lot of folks get to.
And it has still been horrible. But she now wants to go home and we have to convince her she still needs some monitoring and rehab.
Plus she needs two negative tests to get out anyway.
My mom is a firm believer in not staying down any longer than necessary, and she's starting to feel her oats as we say.
So she's frisky to get out of there, but she really doesn't get how very sick she was.
Jay, all I can say is I would have paid 10k for a treatment for my mom last week in hundred dollar bills if they wanted. Or 20 or 30k without hesitation.
But we can't get it, no way, no how. She's off ventilator now, but it was very frustrating. And from first hand I still say what I've been saying. Dex. does the heavy lifting, Remd. is barely better than nothing, and when you throw in side effects probably worse.
They wouldn't even entertain using a steroid that is approved for use in a nebulizer, even when she was a perfect candidate. Even when we got doctors outside the hospital to consult and recommend. They just can't get out of their box at all.
When are they gonna learn that using treatment is saving lives all over the world.
Why is Florida doing so well as heavily populated as they are? Treatment. Testing with fast results, and treatment. Same as Japan and Taiwan.
My mom got tested on Thursday and was told results may take till monday. Which they did. Unfortunately, When the cytokine storm hit on Saturday night it was too late for treatment. It shut her down.
We have all been monitoring our blood oxygen levels for months now.
When it hit, she went from 100 percent to 95 kinda slow.
From 95 to 78percent like an anchor.
Had we not had home oxygen testers she would have never made it, period.
That's how fast it happens.
https://capital.com/humanigen-stock-forecast-will-hgen-go-up
Notice how the wording is tweeked to make this a hack piece.
These things come out every time HGEN starts getting traction.
Wonder how much short pay to these guys for writing this stuff.
It's a good one, sounds believable enough, but it's still a hack piece like we've seen every time we get a little momentum.
The killer part is it's insinuated that safety concerns were the reason of the 'decline" But as yet there are no side effects attributed to Lenz that I have ever found.
Certainly safer than Dex and Rem. I'm trying to get them to stop Rem on my mother in ICU right now. If anything has more harm than good it's REM.
If you wanna see another case of Big Pharma getting supported over small pharma by the FDA, check out what happened to AGEN today.
You can't make this crap up.
They rushed Mercks drug by four months to kill AGENs chance on the day of AGENS meeting with the FDA.
On the friggin day, blindsided them totally.
AGEN will get bought out cheap now. Shocking.
Jay, when folks get that this is a long hold for many reasons, and the funds ,shorts, and flippers can't just play with us with impunity, we can hold and increase on the kind of share price we should have for where we are.
Poor PR on the decline by FDA lead to a haircut that was far out of proportion.
Worked out great for shorts, and funds that shorted their own shares, and some shares they probably didn't even own or borrow.
It allowed those that could to buy at great prices too, but also had some folks sell for hard losses.
Still, until we have approval somewhere, these guys can short on every run, no matter how small, and cover in the same day. It's a choke hold we will break out of eventually. But the sooner the better.
I came into this for the CAR-T, in some ways Covid actually messed up my strategy of a long accumulation of ever price increasing shares.
But we all have to play the hand we are dealt.
Sweetheart deal for the new hires.
But we could all buy at the same price they are getting their options for.
They are not getting them free, and they can't sell them all at once. So I think it's a good thing. I hope it makes them rich, cause it will all of us too.
Don, yea, they basically tripled their position. Any other company that alone would give a good boost.
HGEN is special that way. But I've been increasing my position too.
But they are making me feel like a lightweight, I have no-where near tripled my position. LOL
So you agree that selling on the drop to take the tax loss and buying back cheaper if you want to keep a position in the company is not a really good idea?
I won't hire him, that's for sure.
Each to their own. I have zero respect for someone that post's on boards that don't like the company. I have never posted on a board that I wasn't a shareholder of the stock. To me doing that just shows your a bored little bitch. But that's just my opinion.
Of course shorts feel it's worth their time to run down a stock, at least I can respect that a little. But not much.
Don, myself for example.
I'm buying on the dips, and when we are higher I will sell my higher priced shares when we go up some and take the loss.
If we happen to skyrocket at some point before the end of the year, I will still sell those higher priced shares to keep the gains down, or to take the loss on the higher priced shares.
Folks like me have shares from 4 dollars to 22.00 so there are a few ways to play it.
Folks that took their whole stake at 20+ are smart to reap the tax advantage and buy back after 30 days.
To take the notion, as one person here does, about the few folks on this board being some indication of what a large amount of shareholders are doing is pretty hinky for someone that should be tending to their billion dollar deals. LOL
All, JP Morgan actually downgraded on 9/12/21. To a sell.
So did they double secret probation downgrade it to a sell again today?
Or is it just more shenanigans?
We have 2 good news things in one day, and one old one drops our price.
WOW. Unbelievable
Ruff, Unfortunately we are so predictable till we have solid sales, that the only folks buying are flippers. They buy in the 5's and sell in the 6's.
Most investors have all they want, and the one's that are discouraged will sell or get stopped out on the dips.
That's just how it is. We have what I think is a great product, but can't sell it. We also have really poor PR.
Durrant admitted they totally mishandled how they reported the "decline".
A better handling of it could have easily kept us above 8 or 9 bucks considering where we are in the process. Many biotechs that have yet to make there first dollar have a much higher valuation.
And I agree with him. He shot us in the foot. Even with the timing of the PR's they do that are positive, they understand, it seems, very little about the psychology of investors.
I'm still a buyer under 6, but this lower launchpad is gonna hurt us particularly if we get bought cheap.
The only saving grace is I'm accumulating more shares at this lower price point.
But, there is a limit as to how over weighted I will go on one company, and I bet I'm not the only one.
Point being there just aren't many excited buyers.
Like I said, it's their pay. Lot's of companies do this with officers.
If your saying they shouldn't get paid then that's one thing. But it's not free shares.
The company could have forked out the cash, and they could have bought shares and it would be exactly the same thing.
They are not free, they are his pay.
I'm curious how you guys felt about this mornings fireside chat.
But no way our getting held up had anything at all to do with letting them get the jump on HGEN. I'm sure it's just a coincidence.
And gee, it's so good they don't even need to continue the study.
Your DNA will be fine, the CEO said so.
So is the guy from BARDA that whistleblew on this still among the living?
I'm still buying even today, cause Lenz as a covid drug was only a moment of opportunity, CAR-T was always the goal.
But there's a lot that stinks about all this.
Yep, at this rate my average price is dropping like a stone.
It's just a shame for folks that can't buy more.
There are buyers at 6.00 for sure, but also nervous holders with stop losses. They get taken out, and the shares sold later in the day with great regularity. Looks to me like those are mostly MM's doing what MM's do when they can get away with it.
They do because they can. Ever notice how we always go down on good news?
It ain't natural, but they get away with it.
Of course interest scares, and the mobsters with BofA ain't helping.
How in the the heck did we get here, 100 a barrel oil looming they say after they've been buying the sector cheap.
But I have plenty of companies up today that had good news. But they don't have folks bent on driving the price down that can do it.
It's kinda funny, hgen folks almost hate good news, that's how manipulated we are.
Just to prove a point I just put an order in at 6.26 which only showed 100 shares at the ask. Got filled at 6.24 immediately.
The trading so far is nothing but MM's and shorts playing games because they can.
That's one of the problems with a company with basically no PR dept.
They will then run it up, after they have loaded bags cheap, then sell higher probably later today, and then if any momentum tries to pick up, they will sell short some more.
We are stuck with this until some positivity draws a crowd.
But over and over folks see the price drop due to lack of interest to the point they really can't or don't want to believe HGEN really has potential.
To the market , if the price goes down, the company and product must suck.
The best way to keep the price down is to convince folks that it can't go up.
What your seeing right now is straight out of Ted Warrens book.
Jay, I know I'm feeling pretty good right now.
I'm seeing a pocket here, I bought some Feb. 7.50 calls for under 1.70 today, and from where we are and what's going on, I think they are a fair deal that should be in the green shortly.
I'm not an option guy, but my strategy of getting more share control here, to then sell my most expensive shares in the first run to get some tax loss may work out.
I have bought the bulk of the shares over my usual position with money I made on stocks at over 200% profit, some well over that. I have only ever broken my own rules on the weighting of a single stock on HGEN. Like I have said before, just trying to make applesauce. lol
But when the news sinks in I can't help but think we are gonna get some positive traction.
In my opinion it looks like a lot of folks are running tight stops, and MM's are happy to clip them, then sell them for a little more.
It's what MM's do if they can.
Eng. those ones around 9:50ish, yea. We look like most every bio chart I have today though.
DE-risk algo's ruling today.
I bought some at 6.40,I'm happy with it. Just averaging down some of my higher priced shares.
And then there's CYDY, man, I don't get that stock at all. Over 600 mil. shares, no coverage, no options, OTCQB, and they go up on news that ain't even news. It just says the shit show might now be less of a shit show. I'm not afraid of risk at all, but I have never thought about buying a single share.
Won't be the first or last thing I don't get. lol
Fish on. Somebody hitting hgen hard after hours. I'm feeling pretty good about my buys today.
Jay, sorry if i was confusing. No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying the 3 doses are one treatment, and the 10k cost they have spoken of is for that, not 30k.
Sheriff_Nottingham
06:12 PM
$HGEN
I’ve listened to the Baird CC multiple times very carefully, and despite the concentration of information, this quote is my highlight:
“We’ve had a lot of outreach from investigators at Mayo, Emory, Darthmouth and Stanford and they are surprised, to put it mildly, that the FDA want more data”
Ya reckon?
Jay, I'm not sure that that how I perceive it is the way anyone else does.
But I have always thought of a dose as a treatment, which is 1800 mg. given in 3 600 mg parts in 24hrs.
To me management has been clear as day about that all along.
But I also recognize that there have been some different concepts of that. I have no reason to feel any different about it than my first perception about it.
1800 being the full treatment for one person.
Annnnnd, we closed at 6.66.
Long term Hgenites are being tested. LOL
Don, as I recall, some of the Mayo clinic doctors seemed to be keen on trying Lenz at multiple stages.
Made me think they saw something. They are kinda the best of the best, so maybe some input from doctors is encouraging some testing in the outer boundary's.
Of course there would have to be some exclusion from the primary trial data.
It just stuck out to me when I listened to video with Durran talking to them.
I think we could all have a consensus that de-risked doesn't mean no-risked.
It's bio-tech. lol
But we are way more de-risked at these prices.
Don, from your lips, to Gods ear. lol
But yea, I get what your saying, I think a lot of front line Doctors will love to have another tool, and now it has some trial record to alleviate some hesitation.
Jay, cash burn is my main concern in that it will make us an easy buyout candidate.
The fact that we were flush with cash till I thought we'd be able to show some revenues, was one my main factors in jumping in hard on this.
Definitely not increasing my position, even though I'm buying here, just shifting it around to make it work for me tax wise.
Personally I do not see the potential for the high numbers I felt we could command before, because we are way easier to buy at a lower price now.
Hope it's not the case, but I have to take it into consideration more now.
I still think of the CAR-T aspect as the long term generator. But I don't have as much confidence of us having a chance to go it alone as I did before.
Jay, When I was young a wealthy old guy told me he didn't trust anybody, or their opinion if they hadn't lost a large amount of money a few times.
Shows character to shake it off and move forward. Also it humbles you in a way that's healthy.
I got cocky with HGEN, largest single position I have ever taken.
Sometimes you try a big roll, and it goes your way or it doesn't. It hurts in direct proportion to how over-weighted I chose to be in it.
I always carry well over 100 positions, even near 200 sometimes.
If one goes completely broke it hardly phases me.
This one hurt some.
But, I have already formulated my strategy and I'll see how that goes.
That's all we can do
To be honest me too. I'm actually on both sides of it, but not exactly on it. Just in case. lol
ok, 6.66 was just too funky to not buy at. LOL
Precious, I can dig it. Pretty shrewd. I like it.
I don't have that many CDMO so I'll hang on to mine long term.
But I kinda got lucky lately that some stocks I had in the closet somehow became meme stocks, so I can use those profits to play my strategy of keeping the same number of HGEN shares while lowering my overall price, and creating a tax loss for this year to offset the crazy gains on said meme stocks.
We all gotta play the hand we have.
ok, yea I'm grabbing small bites sub 7 here.
This kind of reminds me of ALT not too long ago. Those 2 dollar shares I bought in the bottom were my best money makers last year.
And the added benefit for me this year is, on spikes I'll sell my higher priced HGEN shares for a tax loss. While still having the same number of shares.
Not the plan I wanted, but the one I have now.
1upand, it is a very interesting article. Too bad very few will read it, because it shows in very specific terms how the worst thing you could ever do is vaccinate everybody.
These variants popping up at the speed they are was all foreseen by very real scientists, who were then vilified for stating the truth.
Which in turn, put treatment on the back burner. How many thousands of lives could have been saved with early treatment if only a percentage of the effort that was spent of vaccines was put into treatment?
I would really like to here someone that now believes everyone in the world should be vaccinated, state what they disagree with in this well written article. But that would require them to read more than the first few lines so my hopes are not high.
This speaks strongly to the need for treatment, but the powers that be only know one word, and it's the one their masters make them recite over and over, vaccine.