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announced yesterday in press release about webinar on Dec 3:
Building on the success of the previous webinar, “IonQ Technology & Performance Updates: Milestones on the Path to Commercial Advantage,” the upcoming event will provide a deeper dive into IonQ's recent advancements and will share updates on the company’s path forward
Looking back at July 1 - no IONQ news from June 25 - July 22. Yet from July 1 - next 5 days - stock ran up 20%. So the press release from yesterday is referring to not only the success of the previous webinar with great info - but also how the SP run after the webinar. I would expect the similar results after Dec 3 webinar. Just an observation. Hopefully we see that run next week.
Man - You may be right - buyers showing up today. This is encouraging - maybe people are finally getting a clue.
Here we go. Up 5% today. This thing just keeps chugging. 40 burger is next.
IBM... I mean Nvidia don't give a flying fu@k about Quantum. just sayin.
so NVDA just said they own the AI market. and they told you that it just started and next 18 months will be positive. so Im gunna go invest in something else... LOL SMH people just have no idea how large this idea is.
it is incredible to me that people do not understand the change. everything is changing - not on a small scale -- on a large scale and Nvidia is the backbone of the scale of change. its insane that people can't grasp this . Institutions asking stupid questions about profit on the Q3 - so stupid. they don't see the big picture.
humans no longer create code. anyone hear that in the Q3? jees. institutions asking about net profit. LOL
this is world changing - no one sees it. SMH
will open on my toenail and finish on my scalp.
Thanks Oleblu - good video. 5X. yea boii. nvidea is stacked. holding long.
all the institutions are asked a ton about gross profit on particular products to be all fluffy and in the know. .72 to .74 to .75 like they really are investing on that? weird they are looking at the numbers in like 2% points- and they don't see the big opportunity. I get it - that the job - check the box. but they are missing the big idea. what ever - the institutions are all boring as fu*k
thanks Ill take $19 all day long.
personally - I would enjoy a $15 SP - will buy that up all day long as far as the horizon. I have a fat stack waiting.
Quantum was not mentioned by NVDA Q3 call. Nividia has so much irons in the fire. Too much for one Q meeting to discuss. We sit in our corner creating world changing gear. Waiting for the truth to be spoken. If stock drops - gunna gobble up many more shares. I'm in long. I see the future - the truth. IonQ - long.
agree with sentiment on this thread - I personally was very energized by future opportunities. Im long and and a long investor. I care not so much to month to month. Tell me - please - anyone - what company has anything like Nvidia? The answer is - no one is even close. $1 trillion data centers need to be overhauled? anyone hear that from Jensen in the Q3 call? its a no brainer - That's pure gold. sell all you want - it will be bought up.
the way its been acting - I will venture to say this will close around $30 today.
Huge Doc:
Quote from Elica Kyoseva, Director of Quantum Algorithm Engineering at NVIDIA:
"Useful quantum applications will soon rely on both quantum hardware and AI supercomputing resources. The CUDA-Q platform enables researchers and developers to explore these paradigms by accessing NVIDIA-accelerated computing in combination with IonQ's quantum processors."
just got a message on X from IONQ that they and Nvidia are doing a joint demonstration tomorrow at SC24 using Coda-Q with Forte
I went off like Kona LOL LFG IONQ
just fyi - news releases from IonQ has increased in 2024 approx 30% from 2023 YTD. thru 2022 - 2023 it was equal in November 2024 alone - 7 news releases from IonQ on advancements. total news release to date is around 41 vs approx 34 from 2023 The momentum is real. more news for the end of the year. much to tout. much progress.
Now i'm scrambling to get more. hoping it drops to 15. Not sure it can go back below 20. second guessing myself. wondering how I can get more. I am sure I am not the only one here. waiting for the drop to get more. but hoping for that blast off. love this situation to be honest. keeps you on your toes.
i used to think buying IonQ was great at $6 then $8 then $10. then12... then $14. damn - I crawled up the ladder buying all the way up - now in all the way up to my ears. Just got more at 28 today. I drank the coolaide. LOL I'm in deep. I hope in years to come I look back and appreciate my wild ass move. I sure hope I ain't a nutball. won't be my first rodeo.
7.5M warrants outstanding. held by institutions - not by people on google.
people dumping warrants is a joke. all owned by mainly Amazon and other large institutions such as BCK, Saba, and others. they are not going to dump any warrants - and if they did - would affect SP like a blip. them dudes are holding. total bs about dumping. they are not stupid.
Thanks Jack for the reply - much appreciated!
I am curious as to how folks on this board rate QBTS and RGTI vs IONQ. I am invested in a smaller way in the D-wave and Rigetti. I'm interested if anyone has any opinion on these other two quantum investments. thanks
I’ll be here in 5 years when we chuckle at this post. Great stuff. LFG - ping the $30.
Thanks Jack for sending these updates - great stuff. Keep it coming. We can’t be everywhere - so this info is gold and appreciated. Keep up the great work bro.
off to the races. wow
WOW - 600 patents! just wow. incredible.
I take Seeking alpha with a grain of salt. Just relaying new info (good or bad). Hopefully - this will be good. The points raised in the articles however are legit and make sense to me.
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4736079-ionq-quantum-networking-milestones-spark-a-bull-run
IonQ: Quantum Networking Milestones Spark A Bull Run
Nov. 11, 2024 12:28 PM ETIonQ, Inc. (IONQ) Stock1 Comment
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IonQ is targeting leadership in quantum networking, with two big milestones achieved this year. The company is just two milestones away from developing scalable photonic interconnects.
Acquiring Qubitekk adds 118 patents and strengthens IonQ’s position in the growing quantum communication market.
Partnerships with NKT Photonics, Imec, AstraZeneca, and Ansys expand the company's market reach, particularly in telecom, biopharma, and engineering.
Risks include insider selling, technical challenges in qubit stability, and strong competition from big players, like IBM and Google.
I rate IonQ a strong buy due to its progress in the $36 billion quantum networking market, strategic partnerships, and decent contracts with the AFRL and ARLIS.
Physics quantum and quantum entanglement, 3d rendering.
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IonQ, Inc. (NYSE:IONQ) has seen its share price increase by over 50% in just two days following the release of Q3 2024 earnings results.
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In this article, I will go over the key factors driving the recent increase in the share price and explain why I believe this stock is a strong buy.
I'll mention upfront that the company's progress in the quantum networking space plays a significant role in my rating.
Despite being in its early stages, the company has already demonstrated strong potential with two key milestones achieved this year and securing big contracts, including a $54.5 million deal with the US Air Force.
In my view, despite currently not being a profitable company and the valuation metrics along with the RSI showing overvaluation and overbuying activity, I believe the narrative of the company has more importance in its future growth.
With that in mind, I will start with the key section of my bull thesis.
Strong Growth in Quantum Networking
Let's begin with the basics and get a clear, simple understanding of what quantum networking is before diving into how it ties to the company's growth strategy.
We all know (or should) that classical networks transmit information as bits (0s and 1s).
Well, quantum networks use quantum bits, or qubits, which can exist in multiple states simultaneously (0, 1, or both simultaneously) due to a property called superposition.
Another property of these qubits is that they can become entangled, meaning the state of one qubit is directly related to the state of another, regardless of the distance between them.
Why does this matter? Well, thanks to superposition and entanglement, quantum computers can handle multiple calculations at the same time, outperforming classical computers by a vast margin.
How vast? Well, to put things in perspective, a classical computer might take billions of years to factor a 2,048-bit number. A quantum computer could accomplish this in a matter of 8 hours.
Additionally, qubits facilitate advanced cryptographic protocols resistant to eavesdropping for ultra-secure communications.
Alright, enough about science. Let's come back to finance.
IonQ has been steadily carving out its place in the quantum networking industry.
In February this year, they successfully demonstrated ion-photon entanglement for commercial use. More recently, in October, they showcased remote ion-ion entanglement.
Today, the company is just two milestones away from developing scalable photonic interconnects.
Why is this relevant? Well, have a look at the following excerpt from the last earnings conference:
I expect that the quantum networking products will continue to strongly drive sales and to be the first product group that is cash-flow positive. - Peter Chapman, IonQ's CEO
After reading that statement, one can easily understand the reason behind their recent acquisition of Qubitekk and the acquisition of Entangled Networks in January 2023.
In my view, the acquisition of Qubitekk for $22 million is a key growth driver for the company as it opens the door to a broader customer base, especially in the telecom industry.
This acquisition brings 118 US and international patents focused on quantum networking hardware and network security and Qubitekk's workforce, skilled in quantum communication and networking technologies
I see the company transitioning its quantum networking efforts from lab experiments to real-world applications. A clear sign of this shift is the $54.5 million contract with the United States Air Force Research Lab (AFRL) signed in Q3, 2024.
Additionally, in the same quarter, they secured a $5.7 million contract focused on quantum communication technology with the Applied Research Laboratory for Intelligence and Security (ARLIS).
Other strong signs of progress in quantum networking were the partnerships with NKT Photonics and Imec, which I will discuss in the next section.
Finally, I have to mention the market potential of quantum networking. According to McKinsey, the quantum communication market could reach $36 billion by 2040.
So far, after seeing the company's progress in this field, I believe IonQ has a strong potential to be a leader in this market.
Key Partnerships
Q3 has been packed with partnership agreements.
The first partnership I'd like to mention is the agreement with NKT Photonics to develop advanced laser systems.
Considering the lasers are a significant cost component of IonQ's systems, particularly for the IonQ Tempo system, this partnership could streamline production and lower operational expenses.
One of the key deliverables for NKT Photonics is the production of three prototype optical subsystems in 2025. Therefore, considering this timeline, I don't expect any short-term miracles when it comes to reducing operational expenses on the income statement.
IonQ also signed a partnership agreement with Imec, a leader in nanoelectronics, to develop photonic-integrated circuits (PICs) and chip-scale ion trap technology.
To keep things simple, PICs will eventually enable IonQ to integrate optical components directly onto chips, which seems to be a key step to scale its technology for broader commercial use.
Moving on to other partnerships, the company signed a collaboration agreement with AstraZeneca to create a quantum application development center in Gothenburg, Sweden.
The global biopharma market presents a vast growth opportunity, with an estimated market size of $1.5 trillion in 2023 and projections to exceed $2 trillion by 2030.
On average, drug discovery and development take 10-15 years and cost $2.6 billion per successful drug. Quantum algorithms could significantly shorten this timeline. Therefore, the growth potential in this field is significant.
Finally, I will mention the Ansys partnership, a leader in computer-aided engineering, to bring quantum computing into a $10 billion growing market.
The partnership seeks to integrate IonQ's quantum computers with Ansys software, making high-fidelity design simulations faster and more accurate.
As an aeronautical engineer with experience in CFD (computational fluid dynamics), I can't stress enough the importance of quantum computers to improve development lead times. The current conventional computation methods are time-consuming and expensive, especially if you set up the parameters wrong before you run the simulation (I'm talking about personal experience here).
The Fundamentals
Starting with the income statement, revenue increased in the triple digits in the last 2 quarters. In Q2 this year, revenue was up by 106% YoY, and in Q3, revenue increased by 102% YoY.
However, operating and net income haven't followed this growth.
As a matter of fact, COGS and operating expenses keep weighing on the profitability of the company.
If we look at the earnings history of the company, EPS has declined since Q2 2023.
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Moving on to the balance sheet, cash per share has been declining in the past quarters, while total debt has been increasing.
However, I am not overly concerned about this shift at the moment considering that the company's net debt is negative $347 million.
Additionally, the liquidity ratios of the company look very decent.
Ratio Value
Current Ratio 12.23
Quick Ratio 11.45
Cash Ratio 11.34
Finally, the cash flow statement doesn't look particularly attractive, with negative operating and free cash flow.
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However, considering the relatively early stage of the company, expecting positive free cash flows is not realistic.
I'll start expecting positive operating cash flow once the company lands more contracts with government and private organizations, and the benefits of its new technological partnerships become clear in 2025-2026f.
Until then, the company's total revenue and the overall narrative will play a more fundamental role in its growth.
Valuation
As I mentioned earlier, I believe the narrative weighs more on the future growth of the company than its fundamentals or valuation metrics.
However, let's have a look at the valuation ratios of the company to assess if the company is overvalued or not.
The chart below shows where some of the relevant valuation ratios are against the historical range in the last 2 years.
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As seen above, the price to book ratio seems to be trading close to the 2-year historical range.
As a side note, the other valuation metrics are not displayed, as earnings and cash flow are negative, and they don't pay any dividends at the moment.
Therefore, I decided to use the P/B metric to compare the company against some of its industry peers to understand if this ratio is high or not.
A closer look at the table below shows the comparison in descending order by P/B value.
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IonQ is at the top of the table, indicating that the company is the most expensive in the group when using book value as a comparison metric.
Considering the increase in the share price over the last week, there is no doubt that the valuation metrics indicate the company is overvalued. The seeking alpha quant ratings for P/S and EV/Sales are an F (indicating potential overvaluation).
The company is not profitable yet, with a TTM negative cash flow and negative earnings. Therefore one can't use metrics like P/E or P/CF to infer a fair value of the company.
At this early stage, I firmly believe the share price is driven by revenue growth and the narrative. A quick look at the analyst estimates for revenue indicates a positive trend, with an expectation of $315 million by 2027. This projection is close to 10x the TTM revenue of the company today.
Will the share price increase by 10x? In my view, possibly yes, but no one can say for sure with 100% certainty.
Risks
Let's start with insider selling.
My investment style weighs insider activity quite high. Therefore, seeing Alameddine Rima (the Chief Revenue Officer) selling over $1 million worth of shares since September this year is not particularly encouraging.
I'm not a fan of insiders selling right after a significant jump in the share price. So, given the sharp rise in the share price over the past week, I'd be concerned if we see more insider selling, especially if it happens in clusters.
Other risks include current limitations in quantum hardware. IonQ's quantum systems still operate in the realm of "noisy intermediate-scale quantum" (NISQ) technology.
At the moment, IonQ's systems face challenges related to qubit coherence and error correction. Quantum error rates remain high, which can reduce the reliability of results in complex simulations and computations.
Finally, another risk comes from the highly competitive landscape in the quantum computing industry, with major players like IBM, Google, Rigetti, and D-Wave.
In my opinion, securing a significant market share now is fundamental for IonQ if they want to position themselves as true leaders, particularly in the quantum networking market.
Conclusion
After taking all these factors into account, I rate IonQ as a strong buy.
The company has made big progress in this field, hitting key milestones like demonstrating ion-photon and remote ion-ion entanglement. As a matter of fact, the company is just two milestones away from developing scalable photonic interconnects.
These advancements, coupled with the acquisitions of Qubitekk, increase the technological capabilities of the company and expand its intellectual property portfolio with 118 US and international patents.
On top of that, contracts like the $54.5 million deal with the US Air Force show there's strong demand for IonQ's technology in areas like defense. Additionally, the quantum communication market could be worth $36 billion by 2040, and I believe IonQ has a solid shot at leading this space.
There are some risks to be considered, including insider selling, especially if more executives sell shares after the recent stock price jump.
Additionally, one can't forget about the company's technical challenges, like improving qubit stability and reducing errors in its quantum systems. Competition is fierce, with big names like IBM and Google also pushing hard in quantum computing.
However, I believe that the recent partnerships, promising technology, decent contracts, and growing market opportunities outweigh the risks, making this stock a strong buy.
Cool stuff - Memristor. Never heard of that before. will save lots of energy.
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4735793-ionqs-quantum-rise-in-a-market-full-of-skeptics
IonQ's Quantum Rise In A Market Full Of Skeptics
Nov. 10, 2024 4:36 AM ETIonQ, Inc. (IONQ) Stock19 Comments
IonQ, Inc. has shown remarkable stock performance despite being labeled "risky" and "unproven," driven by strong Q3 earnings and strategic partnerships.
IonQ’s pioneering quantum technology, partnerships with major cloud providers, and focus on optimization, material science, AI, and cybersecurity offer significant growth potential.
Financially, IonQ boasts substantial cash reserves and new contracts, but faces high costs and increasing losses due to heavy R&D and operational expenses.
I rate IonQ stock a "buy" due to its strong partnerships, cash position, and potential to lead in the quantum computing industry, despite short-term volatility risks.
Quantum correlation
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Risky Yet Rewarding Rise
IonQ, Inc. (NYSE:IONQ) has been described by analysts in terms that might make even the hardiest of investors hesitate—words like “unproven,” “risky,” and “very negative” have been tossed about with little by way of encouragement. And yet, here we are: up 12% post-Q3 earnings, 70% in the past five days, and over 100% year-to-date. Against all conventional wisdom and a fair share of raised eyebrows, it’s been quite a rally.
One particularly self-aware Seeking Alpha premium member summed it up best on the earnings call, musing, “I’m either a shrewd investor or a Kool-Aid drinker. I’m holding out for the former.”
So, for the moment, shrewd you are.
Investors can enjoy this unexpected upswing, with a collective, cautious grin and a well-deserved pat on the back—for now, anyway.
Thesis: Relying on Data Overhype
As an analyst here, my sentiment is not to chase, well, the sentiment - the emotions of the market. Rather, relying on the cold, hard facts of the data has served me well. But, more often than not, the data doesn’t always capture or find that hidden corner, that little gap where sentiment’s little seed is growing and peering out from the cracks, ready to sprout like a great oak tree. With that said, for today, I’m going to go in with a clean, fresh slate, and do what I do: examine IONQ’s latest earnings data but also keep an open mind about the momentum that’s driving this stock’s performance to incredible heights.
Pioneering Quantum Technology
To set the stage, here’s a brief overview.
IonQ is a bit of a unicorn in the tech world, as it’s the very first company dedicated purely to quantum computing to go public. Unlike the traditional computers we’re all so cozy with, IonQ’s machines operate on the strange principles of quantum mechanics. In short, these quantum computers can tackle certain kinds of problems at speeds that make classical computers look like they’re moving through molasses.
How fast, exactly? Well, way back in a 2019 test, Google’s Sycamore quantum processor blitzed through something called an RCS, or Random Circuit Sampling task, in just about 200 seconds. To give that some perspective, it would take the world’s fastest supercomputer roughly 10,000 years to accomplish the same task.
But before you toss out your laptop, a reality check: the impressive speedups offered by quantum computing are, for now, limited to a fairly narrow range of problems. When it comes to the everyday grunt work of email, spreadsheets, and internet browsing, our trusty classical computers remain not only more efficient but also, for the moment, quite indispensable. As APS Global Physics reminds us, quantum speed isn’t yet universal—it’s astonishing, but not yet practical for most of our day-to-day digital chores.
Appeal and Market Position
So, if quantum computers aren’t really for regular folks like us yet, who exactly is IonQ targeting?
To start with, IonQ’s partners with the big cloud providers—Amazon Web Services, Microsoft Azure, and Google Cloud. No longer confined to traditional research labs and high-tech facilities, quantum computing is getting a foot in the door of the broader business world. By teaming up with these well-established cloud platforms, IonQ makes it possible for companies, even those without massive budgets or in-house quantum experts, to dip their toes into quantum computing. This matters because, while quantum computing is still very much a niche field, it’s growing fast as companies start looking into how it might help solve tough, business-world problems that leave classical computers stumped.
Revenue Potential in Optimization
When it comes to revenue, just the optimization sector alone could be a big market for IonQ’s technology. And the whole quantum computing market worldwide is expected to grow a ton—projections indicate that it could reach around $16.2 billion by 2034, with a yearly growth rate of 30.9% starting in 2024. Companies in areas like logistics, finance, and urban planning are always looking for ways to be more efficient, cut costs, and simplify how they operate—tasks where quantum computing might be able to improve in a big way.
Amazon Braket on AWS, for example, now includes IonQ’s quantum tech, letting companies test out and eventually use quantum algorithms built for optimization. If IonQ’s systems can show real cost savings or efficiency gains, they could lock in long-term partnerships with big businesses, creating consistent revenue streams. For investors, that means a potential source of steady income that could keep growing as more companies jump into quantum computing.
Material Science Applications
IonQ’s dive into material science and chemical simulations—thanks in part to partnerships like Azure Quantum—puts the company in fields that are on the brink of potentially revolutionary advances. In the pharmaceutical and materials science sectors, where billions are spent on R&D, quantum-powered simulations could drastically cut the time and cost needed for new drugs or materials. Even a small slice of this market could mean a big revenue boost for IonQ. Translation: being at the cutting edge of these breakthroughs opens the door to profitable partnerships and licensing deals.
AI and Machine Learning Opportunities
The machine learning (ML) and artificial intelligence (AI) markets are also key areas for IonQ’s future growth, as ML and AI power everything from self-driving cars to personalized medicine to financial forecasting. With Google Cloud backing IonQ’s tech for quantum-enhanced ML, IonQ already has a foot in the door. That said, although quantum ML is still in its early days, any company that develops effective quantum algorithms for these applications could gain some serious market influence, so if IonQ can show real improvements in ML or AI using quantum computing, it could set itself apart from competitors.
Cryptography and Cybersecurity Demand
Finally, cryptography is yet another strategic area where IonQ’s technology lines up with future market demands. The way I see it, the bigger picture here is, first and foremost, definitely within the realms of the military complex as this could make IonQ a key player in cybersecurity—a field where both governments and, secondly, businesses are willing to spend big and where the demand shows no sign of slowing down.
IONQ's Financial Highlights
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With this basic understanding of where IonQ sits in the quantum computing world, let’s take a look at its latest financial results to see how these efforts are actually paying off. Looking at its Q3, IonQ reported $12.4 million in revenue, exceeding its own guidance range of $9 million to $12 million - a positive performance that prompted the company to raise its full-year 2024 revenue forecast to between $38.5 million and $42.5 million.
New Contracts Fuel Momentum
IonQ’s real-life momentum is clearly on display here with substantial new contracts it secured in Q3, adding up to $63.5 million - deals that include a $54.5 million contract with the U.S. Air Force Research Lab and a $9 million renewal with the University of Maryland. So far this year, IonQ has booked $72.8 million toward its annual target of $75 million to $95 million. For broader context that might help explain the recent stock surge is that this steady track record has been meeting or beating expectations in 12 out of 13 earnings reports since its IPO.
Strategic Expansion Through Acquisitions
Also, with its $22 million purchase of Qubitekk, IonQ added 118 patents to its portfolio that gives it even more of a leg up in its quantum networking capabilities and expanding its potential market reach. Partnerships with big names like AstraZeneca and Ansys also signal a shift from R&D-focused projects to real-world, production-ready applications that further pave the way for commercial quantum solutions in areas like biopharma and engineering.
Cash Reserves and Financial Health
Financially, IonQ is sitting on $382.8 million in cash as of September 30, 2024—the largest cash reserve among publicly traded, full-stack quantum companies. In practical terms, this hefty cash reserve not only backs its ongoing R&D and expansion efforts but also gives it the financial muscle to keep pushing its ambitious growth plans. Keep in mind, strategic partnerships with NKT Photonics and imec are set to bring down manufacturing costs and ramp up production. Given that lasers make up a big chunk of production expenses, these partnerships should help IonQ cut costs and improve efficiency.
Future Market Projections
Looking ahead, I believe the real core source of all the buzz around IonQ is management's alignment with McKinsey’s much bigger projection that quantum computing could have a $2 trillion economic impact by 2035. As I mentioned, as government investments in quantum technology keep ramping up, with Elon Musk as a clear player and voice in the ear of our next administration, IonQ’s solid partnerships in the public sector put it in a great position to benefit from future national and international funding.
Valuation Beyond Traditional Metrics
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Explaining IonQ’s valuation in simple terms, we’re looking at one of those unique situations in tech that doesn’t follow the usual financial rules. Normally, investors look at things like the price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio to figure out a company’s value. But with IonQ, the P/E ratio is zero—it’s not making any profit yet, which actually isn’t strange in the quantum computing world. Since this field is so new, companies are still pouring tons of money into research and development, so profits aren’t really expected anytime soon.
IonQ technically falls under the hardware sector, but I really think that comparing it to the usual profitable hardware companies would be like comparing apples to oranges. So traditional metrics just don’t capture the whole story here; that is, IonQ’s value isn’t based on reliable earnings but on its potential to shake up entire industries with quantum technology.
Overall, it doesn't seem like investors in IonQ are concerned too much with what it’s earning today—the stock price is clearly telling us that they’re placing their bets on the future. So, typical metrics like the P/E ratio or earnings per share don’t tell us much here; instead, investors are focused on how fast its technology is advancing, the strength, and frequency, of its partnerships, and its ability to scale.
Now, about that negative P/E ratio of -29.07x – while it might look bad in a typical analysis, here it just highlights IonQ’s high costs and the huge investments it’s making in quantum technology. In other words, the market is telling us that investors are currently pricing this as a high-value company, worth the long haul wait with the high-risk motive that these quantum tech breakthroughs will eventually pay off big.
High Costs and Financial Strain
Back to reality.
Speaking of expenses, IonQ’s ambitious growth strategy certainly comes at a cost: in Q3, its operating expenses climbed to $65.5 million, up from $48.3 million the year before, mainly due to ramped-up investments in research, development, and sales. Specifically, R&D costs jumped 35% year-over-year to $33.2 million, and sales and marketing costs rose by 31% to $6.6 million, underscoring the hefty financial demands of scaling in a new industry. On top of that, the recent acquisition of Qubitekk, funded from cash reserves, adds a bit of pressure on IonQ’s liquidity if it needs to make any more cash-heavy investments, tightening up its operational finances a bit.
Rising Challenges to Profitability
Spending at IonQ has been increasing, which is sapping away at any potential momentum in profits: the company lost $52.5 million in Q3, that's up from $44.8 million last quarter. And their adjusted losses (if you subtract some expenses) also increased, reaching $23.7 million from $22.4 million in the prior year. In part, these losses stem from the increasing expense of stock-based compensation, which grew from $17 million to $24.6 million last year. Besides, the time it takes to build quantum tech isn’t helping either. The deals they’re working on with Hyundai and others are definitely exciting, but it's going to take time, and patience, to get to the point where they’re generating revenue.
Final Takeaway
I’m giving IonQ a “buy” rating, mainly because of its partnerships, and healthy cash cushion—all of which put it in a rather enviable position in the uncharted territory of quantum computing. Now, I didn’t go with the usual “hold” rating here, which is, let’s be honest, often the default for analysts, like myself, trying to hedge a high risk call, especially with companies as speculative as this. “Hold” is better suited for those more predictable stalwarts with lower risk. So, I skipped right past that option, leaving me with two choices: “buy” or “sell.”
A “sell” just doesn’t sit right when we’re looking at a company with real potential to lead the charge in an industry that may shape the future.
Of course, I could be entirely wrong—especially in the short run. IonQ’s stock has enjoyed quite a rally, and it wouldn’t be surprising if some investors start cashing in, especially if this post-election “Trump euphoria” buzz fizzles out. If that happens, IonQ, like so many other high-growth tech stocks, could face a bit of a wobble, with its price dipping in response to the shifting winds of the broader market.
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Great Article - one of the best I have read to make sense of Quantum Computing vs classical. thanks!
$25 - boom there she is.
Thanks for the breakdown Jack. I read all the press and was on the Q call - but the way you have listed all this info blows my mind that all this just came out at once - insane. IONQ just washed over any naysayers. I see some people here are looking for profit numbers.
IonQ stated in the call - 18 months in the black on net income. IONQ has blown away all projections since they went public. I bet we stand in the black in Q1 2026. Then - all hell will break loose. If you're standing outside this - and know about it now - you are going to kick yourself until you get chunked in the clay. I have told all my friends - and they just looked all glazed over... I say - just trust me. I said this 6 months ago to them. Now the ones that took the plunge think I'm a genius - and wish they had bought more. HAHA. too funny. It's still a huge bargain at $24 - your not buying the financials - you're investing in the future. go IonQ.
Agree - love they are jammin with all this news. hope it continues. Today was overload news day for IONQ - keep it coming.
IonQ to Increase Performance and Scale of Quantum Computers with Photonic Integrated Circuits in Collaboration with imec
November 7, 2024, 4:00 PM Eastern Standard Time
COLLEGE PARK, Md.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--IonQ (NYSE: IONQ), a leader in the quantum computing industry, announced today that it is developing photonic integrated circuits (PICs) and chip-scale ion trap technology for trapped ion quantum computing in partnership with imec, a world-renowned R&D center in nanoelectronics and digital technologies. By optimizing the design, production, and integration of chip-scale photonic devices and ion traps for scalable and high-performance quantum computers, the developments aim to push the boundaries of quantum computing performance.
Traditional trapped ion quantum computing approaches rely on bulk optics for laser light modulation, delivery, and photon collection. By moving traditional bulk optical components into integrated photonic devices, IonQ aims to reduce overall hardware system size and cost, increase qubit count, and improve system performance and robustness. Chip-scale optical technologies and IonQ’s tight integration with imec’s trap manufacturing and packing are expected to open up new system capabilities, increase reliability, drive down overall cost-per-qubit, and reduce time to market for new generations of quantum computers.
“Adding imec to IonQ’s set of fabrication and technology partners will have a profound impact on our ability to increase the computational power of our quantum computers through the co-development of compact, high-performance electro-optical systems,” said Dean Kassmann, IonQ’s SVP of Engineering and Technology. “This partnership marks a significant milestone in IonQ’s path to achieving commercial quantum advantage, demonstrating our commitment to combining technical performance improvements with scalability and enterprise-grade solutions.”
Since 2021, IonQ and imec have worked to prototype and refine photonic and ion trap technologies critical to IonQ’s quantum computing roadmap. This expanded engagement aims to develop advanced trap fabrication processes that will allow much richer trap and device functionality in the future.
“We look forward to strengthening an already successful relationship with IonQ and further advancing what’s possible in chip-scale quantum technology,” said Paul Heremans, SVP Industry & Consumer at imec. “We believe imec’s advanced technologies, in particular integrated photonics, have a pivotal role to play in delivering cutting-edge devices for quantum computing.”
Today’s news marks a strengthening of the multi-year relationship between the two companies and is the latest in a series of manufacturing and supply chain announcements from IonQ.
Earlier this year, IonQ opened the United States’ first quantum computing manufacturing facility in Bothell, Washington, which houses the R&D and manufacturing teams responsible for the rollout of IonQ’s next-generation quantum systems. In November, IonQ announced a partnership with NKT Photonics to deliver three innovative prototype optical subsystems to IonQ in 2025. The advanced laser systems will be integrated into IonQ’s upcoming data center-ready quantum systems.
To learn more about IonQ and its latest system news and business developments, visit https://ionq.com/.
About IonQ
IonQ, Inc. is a leader in quantum computing that delivers high-performance systems capable of solving the world’s largest and most complex commercial and research use cases. IonQ’s current generation quantum computer, IonQ Forte, is the latest in a line of cutting-edge systems, boasting 36 algorithmic qubits. The company’s innovative technology and rapid growth were recognized in Fast Company’s 2023 Next Big Things in Tech List and Deloitte’s 2023 Technology Fast 500™ List, respectively. Available through all major cloud providers, IonQ is making quantum computing more accessible and impactful than ever before. Learn more at IonQ.com.
About imec
imec is a world-leading research and innovation center in nanoelectronics and digital technologies. imec leverages its state-of-the-art R&D infrastructure and its team of more than 5,500 employees and top researchers, for R&D in advanced semiconductor and system scaling, silicon photonics, artificial intelligence, beyond 5G communications and sensing technologies, and in application domains such as health and life sciences, mobility, industry 4.0, agrofood, smart cities, sustainable energy, education. imec unites world-industry leaders across the semiconductor value chain, Flanders-based and international tech, pharma, medical and ICT companies, start-ups, and academia and knowledge centers. imec is headquartered in Leuven (Belgium), and has research sites across Belgium, in the Netherlands, the United Kingdom and the USA, and representation in 3 continents. In 2023, imec's revenue (P&L) totaled 941 million euro.
Further information on imec can be found at www.imec-int.com.
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applications for production use case - massive news.
last year AstraZeneca revenue was 45 B - profit after tax of 6 B. They need to spend some money.
Agree about all the happenings - good moves. Marketing push was discussed in the call yesterday at one point. I can't remember specifics - but was mentioned for 4th Q and into 2025 as I recollect - this was one of the Ops cost projection investments for IONQ in the near term.