Draft Day 2004--ElisComing--Once a Giant, Always a Giant---Eli's Gone
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Xkem insider filings...
http://www.secform4.com/insider-trading/919611.htm
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Like:
A Man a Plan a Canal Panama
Old news....
Monday PR listed in the "Latin America Insurance News" section of "einnews.com"...
http://www.einnews.com/latin-america/?nid=27487&offset=50
Re: Ceo of the year nomination....
#msg-14303694
#msg-14760563
Previously posted on this board by LongOnSilver:
#msg-18801253
Little explanation of order flow and how some,um,"mistakes" might happen...
Not claiming that is the case here-but I did get a headache reading it...
GLTA
PI...try this....
http://world.altavista.com/
in the "translate web page" box, put
http://www.goeroe.be/discuspro/messages/790/4473.html?1174312924
note: make sure only one http://
select "dutch to english"
interesting reads..
GLTU
You seem to give up on some things a wee bit prematurely...
PNMS doesn't have their PDR platform up yet, doors should close... the Yanks, winners of the last 10 or so AL East titles and 26 rings are done...
Tiger shot 75 today...he's probably waitin' for your call...
what's next???....digging Secretariat up and tellin' him he didn't run hard enough????....
Thinks might be a lot better than you think....GLTU and I hope you're around when this gets to FMV, wherever that may be....
to name a few....
MSFT 9.57B
Merck 2.17B
Eli Lilly 1.13B
Pfizer 7.08B
GLTU
Here's a count from Aug 2006....familiar faces....
#msg-12996463
Please add:
244,000
thx
Midas...think these are two of the posts you refer to:
#msg-18223636
#msg-18226198
woof woof...you are a very LOUD dog....
Leslie used to be a credit analyst at Sulja
Warren Buffett was a paper boy...Michael Dell dropped out of college...
so what!!!
check out NY,NY to Paris, France.....step #24...funny stuff..
http://maps.google.com/
and perhaps guidance on filing issues regarding the American market....
methinks you see clearly....GLTU
nice...partner with SEC experience...
"Robert E. Feiger (Partner) born New York, N.Y., March 12, 1949; admitted to bar, 1975, Texas. Education: Washington University, St. Louis (B.S.B.A., final honors, 1971); Southern Methodist University (J.D., 1971; LL.M., in Taxation, 1995). Beta Gamma Sigma; Omicron Delta Kappa. Staff Member, Southwestern Law Journal, 1973-1974. Author: Note, "Resurrecting the Spirit of the Securities Act of 1933," 27 S.W.L.J. 554, 1973.Staff Attorney, U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, Division of Enforcement, Washington, D.C., 1974-1977. Member: Dallas Bar Association; State Bar of Texas."
WOW...what a joke!!!!....just catching up on about 1500 posts and came across this junk.
I've held this stock since Oct and my shares are "proofed up" on Knowles' board...
Not that I need to prove anything to you, Mr. Pet Detective..
My "name" here reflects the fact that I am a NYGiant football fan..
GLTU...you need to find something better to do with you're time!!!!!!
Things are gonna get interesting....here's a interesting read on the kind of action we may see as the buyback kicks in:
GREAT READ,"What's up with the L2? How many MM's on the bid?"
This was passed on to me and it makes for good food for thought.
Invest Wisely and Trade Smartly
The savvy long-term investors never chase stocks up. For the most part that is momentum players and daytraders where most of it or what follows is dumb money. Instead the long-term investors use a couple of simple strategies in order to position themselves. One is to find a stock no one immediately sees has huge potential and accumulate.
Long-term investors are not interested in trading against the public mind or the dumb money. That's where the majority of the money can be made but even more can be made if the base of a stock is held extremely strong by investors. However the second is not to doubt the research which is the
underlying basis for going long and holding.
More and more investors are winning the game now days despite all bashers that float through the Internet that has become part of the game. Floor traders of market makers often watch CNBC, news wires and bulletin boards in order to follow the market during trading session. OTC BB market makers (MMs) don't use fundamental and technical analysis.
However, what they do realize is a lot of dumb money does use this newest nitch charting or TA (Technical Analysis) to run a stock either up or down. To the MMs this is like taking candy from a baby. Simply they will paint the tape and use whatever tactic to affect the charting bands. Thus the public and dumb money they will have eating out of their
hands. Effectively the MMs can show a strong stock growing weak by manipulating the close price in order to generate selling volume, delaying trading time to manipulate trading activities, or even stalling the ask without honoring orders to hold a stock price.
MMs follow a simple code of business when making a market in a stock especially an OTC BB. That is the level that stocks will seek that yields the most volume. Now this is very important because they make money on the volume buying at the bid and selling at the ask. In other words, by making the market they are buying low and selling high. Now smart money adheres to that rule, so do all the market makers. They could careless whether the stock is at $83 or at $0.23.
All they care about is the action thus being able to sell stock at the offer (The high) and buy stock at the bid (The low). To increase their profitability, they make the spread as great as possible on as many shares as they can especially if the volume falls off.
When they have mostly all "buy" orders, that's not the price that's going to yield the most volume. They need both buy and sells to get the maximum action. Remember, MMs play the volume. If the volume decreases and there are mostly Buys that become a one way volume, Buy volume. So what they do is let the stock run up to a price where it runs out of steam. They fill all the buy orders there that they can and then comes the pullback one way or another naturally or induced.
During the pull back they can buy tons of shares and flip them to those averaging down or trying to catch the bounce. At some price, the stock will be relatively stable and yield the most volume. Now that is the average price you will see. The average price is the point where a stock seeks a level where MMs can profit on the most volume. So during the day that is the price that MMs and momentum/day traders want to see the stock at.
Why? Because they know the public and dumb money was chasing the price thing up. Most of the time, the MMs love a flurry of Market Orders which is a dead sign of an artificial run or momentum. Merely it is money in the bank for them. Most get hung in a momentum or day trade or by the tactics of Market makers, who are in the business to screw the public
every chance they get and the NASD is not going to do anything about it. They are merely making the market liquid is their reasoning.
The market makers have created an added complication to the OTCBB's chaos of the already volatile intra-day price movements created by dumb money, momentum and day-traders. MMs can not relate to long-term holders in the OTC BB. That makes absolutely no sense what so ever. They feel a large percentage of trades in the OTC BB market consist of short term or day-trades, MMs merely view the barrage of buy and sell orders as relatively neutral to the market.
How they figure it is when the average dumb money buys shares in a company, the MMs feel or rather know with some certainty it is very likely that dumb money will want to sell back those shares relatively quick on the slightest drop.
Now somewhat comfortable with this logic the MMs merely short sells into the buying and attempts to take the stock down in an effort to "shake out" the weak. Since it is tough to know for sure whether a move is the beginning of a trend, or a routine shake out, this type of deception works quite well for the MMs. What the long-termers do to a stock is
surprise the MMs because instead of falling the shorting has no effect and the price goes up. Now that puts the MM at selling low through shorting and thus having to buy high in order to cover.
Boy, when this happens, the MMs are not very happy ampers. The investors and traders are supposed to be doing that no them. Now it becomes time to pull out every trick and tactic in the book in order to attempt to get a Bear Raid at every dollar mark or percent from where the stock started. Could be a penny in smaller priced securities? What MMs do is give you a chance to make a small amount of money for your momentum and day trading style by shorting it at these levels and trying to get a bear raid each time. Each failure is compounding the MMs short position so they let it go to the next level. Now come more deliberate tactics MMs use to coerce Bear Raid or panic selling.
Once the MM is caught short and the strength of the buy is overpowering the MM will want to cover his short position. So the MMs call up one of his friendly MMs and says some like "the weather is sure rough today." The MM along with the other "friendly MM initiates a down tick about the same time. Now this can also be done with a certain amount of shares such as an infamous 100 shares flag. This down tick gives the illusion of weakness designed to hopefully begin the bear raid of selling.
The fickle, fearful, day trader, momentum and short term begin to sell out allowing the MM to cover his short position at lower prices. They will move it down quickly to get it to a price of least financial damage. Problem they have is long-term investors in the OTC BB. They start
accumulating and buying comes flying in when they take it too far thus the MMs took it to the point of volume again and not only investors the other MMs step in the make money on the spread.
Alas the poor MM does not get to cover. Now comes various tactics like stalling, boxing, or even locking the Bid and Ask for a while. MMs have a vast resource of tactics and it would take probably more than my lifetime to figure them all out.
So how do investors somehow manage to overcome the obvious deception in OTCBB arena? One answer is indirection trading style by going long which the MMs do not expect. In the war between investors and public companies on the OTC BB vs the MMs, if the MMs have all the advantages due to position or other factors, direct confrontation such as momentum or day
trading hitting the stock is a definite death sentence.
However, an indirect approach tends to weaken the path of least resistance before slowly overcoming it. The most effective way is long-term investors slowly accumulating and holding thus drawing the MMs out of its defenses making them as naked as their short position. This is war so this slow accumulation and holding for the long term easily achieves the desired effect to force MMs to cover and knock off the
tactics or bury themselves deeper.
The MMs when caught will especially use every trick and tactic in the book to get a Bear Raid thus playing on the individual fear of most people. The MMs feel they have information and position advantages over the investors as long as the holding of the stock is in weak hands or
short term holders. Since they are OTC BB MMs who believe all OTCBB companies are not worth investing and management is ineffective regardless what is happening within the company. Furthermore, MMs know they are in the position to impose a great deal of influence in OTC BB stocks trading when it suits their needs.
This inherent power of position enables the MMs to move the markets at any time up or down. As a result, the only way to draw them out of their favorable position is going long. Now this does not mean just any company but to effectively nail the MMs, Longs must find the great company on the floor and accumulate long before the MM tactics and games begin.
This requires extensive research to find such a rare stock, but once you have found it, you are one up on the MMs so be prepared for every tactic in the book.
Naked shorting getting some prime time coverage next week-Mar 13th- on Bloomberg TV
http://www.bloomberg.com/tvradio/tv/index.html
Picks..
1,3,6,7,10,11,13,15,17,20,21,23,25,27,29,31,33,36,38,39,42,43,45,48,49 Pts...52
2,4,6,7,9,11,13,16,17,19
2,4,5,7,9,11,13,16,18,19,21,23
Kudos to Jim and JS...they are a wealth of info...enjoy their posts and JB's board....
HOWEVER,that being said,I believe JB was beating on this stock at .004 along with others...
anyone who "listened" to anyone at that point might have missed a potential 5000% gain and even 40% if they are still holding...
not sayin' they give trading advice...and understand their "DD" is on the company and not necessarily the stock...just sayin' the answer usually lies in between.
GLTU
Au contraire....I believe it was Snips who called prior...
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=15644591
Free the Man!!!!
Hopefully at some point sooner rather than later we will get some real answers instead of all this speculation. The OSC is starting on the company side of things.
I understand the angst of some here. However, it seems to me that the energy should be directed at the real P&D'ers who are long gone from this board. I guess that is not as easy or inviting a target.
JMHO
GLTU
Agreed....another interesting date....
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=15881334
Qwik...some of the players do go way back....check out page 28 of the following Loftwerks 15c211 dated June 2005...opinion letter written by Texas lawyer Mark T....involved with AD from way back...
https://www.otcstockinfo.com/repository/659027/659027_FR6.pdf
Any link for this latest "news"?? TIA
2-4-5-7-10-11-14-15-18-20-22
Have no idea but I'll bet they have never been seen in the same room together... LOL
Speaking of the poster with the "crystal balls"....his alias was born on 1 Sept 2004 and I believe he started posting in August 2006...
interesting coincidence???
7. From or about September 2004 to August 2005, Vucicevich set up trading accounts at two Canadian discount brokers using employees of Kore and/or members of the Sulja family as nominees (the “Nominee Accounts”).
8. Between August 2006 and November 2006, Vucicevich and DeVries directed trading in the Nominee Accounts as follows: Sulja Nevada shares were received in large quantities into the Nominee Accounts by journal entry from Transfer Online, a transfer agent in Portland, Oregon, and were thereafter sold from the Nominee Accounts. Vucicevich and De Vries instructed the account holders of the Nominee Accounts when to trade, at what price to trade, and how many shares to trade at a given price.
Who is/was that masked man???
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OT: no, it pertains to my being a lifelong but presently suffering NYGiant football fan.
CKYS commercials...Word is getting to people on the street...
http://www.netdisaster.com/go.php?mode=manif&url=http://cyberkeysolutions.com
and on IHUB...
http://www.netdisaster.com/go.php?mode=manif&url=http%3A//www.investorshub.com/boards/board.asp%...
GLTA