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Thank you very much for refreshing my memory.
The upside is tremendous: a single project can make a company. Source:BB LQMT. 12-2020.
So far shareholders have seen the downside.
Where are the contracts? Where is the single project? What the heck was he thinking?
Why did he get the boot?
Why was he fired?
Anybody looking for a 6% dividend? Just sell 1.5% of your LQMT shares quarterly. :)
In 7 quarters you would reduce your holdings by 10.5%.
That’s only 1,500 shares per one hundred thousand shares quarterly. 6000 shares annually.
At what %? On what earnings? They would have to sell your shares to give you a dividend.
I would rather see contracts from two large caps.
If anyone wants to buy a million shares they will have no problem buying a million shares. Depending on how you go about buying those shares will determine the price. There are venues to buy off market and to buy the whole block. Just look at the ask price. There are brokerage houses that are connected to the MM’s they will sell you whatever you want.
The reason why volumes are low is that you will be selling at a loss and there is very little interest from buyers. The MM’s will buy back your stock gladly.
And even that reasoning is flawed as well. As things can get worse. But I hope not by much. The premise of that logic is that things are at its worse. Although I don’t believe LQMT will drop below 0.041 cents according to my estimates of what LQMT might be worth. It sure can still drop further. If the cash burn continues unabated then the fair value goes lower too.
Now concerning your noting for being bullish. That too is a feeling and also is not based on anything tangible. In essence it is the reason for why all who are bullish are bullish no matter what the price is. Some thought LQMT might not go below a dime. Therefore they were bullish. But those are opinions, optimistic opinions based on feelings not any facts. They are baseless.
I’m looking for a real reason to be bullish based on actual data. But thanks for the effort. You probably explained in plain English why those who are bullish are bullish.
I mean, heck, I can draw a maze of companies and draw all sorts of lines and dots and dashes and say look here and look there and talk myself into seeing actual connections and possibly trickle down revenues of all sorts. But after six years of that crap would that still be the basis for me being bullish? Most definitely not. Expectations based on that is not substantial and is subjective not objective.
Even BB came close with his profound one deal can make LQMT. You know flip it from poverty to prosperity. But that too was based not on anything LQMT was about to produce. Just a common sense statement. A statement that gave many the belief that something imminent was about to happen. Just like PH did and others too.
Might be a reason to be bullish for a quarter or two. But not enough to be bullish today.
That’s like saying I’m bullish due to FOMO. Heck if you are correct we will see 10 million shares trading tomorrow in the buy column. After all who the heck wants to miss out on this opportunity where LQMT just hit bottom.
I’ll put your reasoning to the test tomorrow. I know that was not your reasoning. But why you think others might have one to be bullish.
Good luck to you.
But then again what the heck are their sales reps doing?????
All 21 or 23 of them striking out too, every day?
Not even a successful free throw from the foul line? In how many months?
16 months zero new contracts?
When was the last time an executive communicated any forward worded progress or the remote possibility of any on their LQMT executive blog????
Besides adding a collage of pictures for parts that seem to never ever make it into LQMT’s bottom line. Why the heck should I be so bullish about all of the above and watching the stock lose value and hit new lows and I’m not talking about 52 week lows.
And whenever anyone suggests their opinion on the doubts. All one gets are the comments of why don’t you sell? Now I can understand that logic.
But I personally am not looking to sell. What I’m trying to figure out instead, is why should I be Bullish in lieu of the realities of LQMT’s performance Vs someone’s baseless opinions of being bullish? What exactly or why exactly should I feel bullish?
All the positives just give me reasons to hold on. But those reasons don’t add up to being bullish.
For instance: LQMT has some cash to burn. Ok. But is that the basis for me to be bullish?
In actuality they had twice as much cash to burn 6 years ago and now look. They’re barely trading in the nickels. Going from .44 cents to the nickels in my mind is not exactly a good reason to be bullish.
I can think of many reasons to hang on like the warrants listed. But that too is not a reason one buys into a dice roll. That too is not a reason to be bullish.
And having a ceo or a cob with a gazillion reasons (I exaggerate) for possible conflicts of interest. That too is not a reason to be bullish.
Neither is knowing the same executive with all of his controlling shares made decisions to shut down LQMT’s domestic operations.
So I ask, is there any real reasons to be bullish? I know there are plenty of emotional ones to be.
Anyone?
Absolutely correct. It’s how their business is done.
Exactly. It has to be at this point totally a speculative roll of the dice. In this case the dice roll seems to be loaded. The only times a seven is rolled after the bet is made, someone comes along and bails LQMT out before they crap out.
China controls everything LQMT. TC is extremely reluctant to go independent. And he expressed as much by stating LQMT does not need a backup supplier for manufacturing. That locks up LQMT to whatever China wants or allows. It’s not a ccp conspiracy theory. Look what is being done by those who have paid $$$$$$$ for sharing the ip abroad. Then look at what the same LQMT executive has done for LQMT here in the USA with the same IP. They look for contracts abroad having the manufacturing capability, while LQMT looks for some minuscule license fee.
The volume trading each day reflects the actual expectations based on the past and present. Not on the future. Those dice rolling shares are in the hands of the MM’s and the small amount of outside shareholders. All wait for a resolution.
Good luck to you.
Good luck to you
Personally, LQMT can go either way based on what they state they are trying to do and not on what they have done. The economic climate does not help with increasing interest rates and economic uncertainty globally. Then there is the increasing geopolitical friction. Growing use abroad for amorphous metal use and isolated use here in the USA have only potentials not realized. Those potentials only give hope that LQMT might raise revenues from fees and licensing agreements. It would be nice if they could ink a deal so that all of those executive warrants could be exercised at a dollar or higher.
Good luck to all in LQMT.
Wish TC luck.
Another week passes and the LQMT share price is up 3.1% from 0.058 cents to 0.0598 cents, on extremely weak trading volumes and little interest. The same when LQMT moves up or down.
Without new sales contracts of any size or an announcement of any progress from LQMT, either on their executive blog or in a PR, the trend is for LQMT’s share price to continue to head lower as the fundamentals remain unchanged and reported revenues decline.
All who are in LQMT understand the potential to various degrees. Many see the potential nullified by viewing the existing management team for being totally ineffective, incompetent or worse. While others continue to give the management team a free pass and still all long terms imo, remain due to FOMO or expect great things to happen on baseless claims. Backed up solely by personal opinions and not on actual data reported by LQMT.
All seem to be waiting with a yawn for the next 10Q. Both the anemic volumes and declining share prices offer no clues to any positive surprises. Historically LQMT’s share price goes up before a 10Q.
Perhaps in 2024 or 2025 or 2026 LQMT might succeed and if they ever do make it in 2023, I’ll be very thankful and glad that they did. It is the main reason why FOMO lives and is probably as stated above the reason why anyone holds on regardless of any other opinion at this time.
There is nothing wrong with expecting skies are the limit or beyond. It just might take more time to get there. Time that many long terms don’t have any more.
Seems like this board had/has it right the whole time. Who knew? I just try to post the facts. After all, everyone knows my opinions are worth less than the price of a share of LQMT. When I see an opinion that is not grounded in reality, but is overwhelmingly exaggerated. I try to present a balanced view based on the facts not on the emotions.
Good luck to all in LQMT.
Wish TC luck.
It’s unfortunate but the upper 0.4’s can happen real quick. Like within the month of July.
Based on fair value I don’t see the shrare price dropping below 0.041 cents. Always do your own DD before investing.
Remember going up or down in share price with anemic trading volumes means Bupkis. It means there is little to zero liquidity for new outsiders to speculate with. Liquidity is needed to attract big $$$$ and higher trading volumes. Positive PR’s communications from LQMT and sales contracts can fix the problem.
Like the facts show no matter what you read about LQMT on the www. There are no panic selling or buying trades and neither are there any imminent contracts for LQMT that outsiders are aware of. There is however plenty of imagination as to its outcome up or down.
Right now and historically speaking it does not take too much imagination to see where LQMT might be headed without a significant sales contract. Just look at the numbers on a five year chart. How LQMT entered the nickel’s requires no imaginary what if’s and maybes or IMO’s. It’s a fact. It requires no great finds, no rumors or guesswork.
The future points to a lower share price and requires a sales contract of any significance to pause the trend or reverse it.
That news could come about any day week or year. But until then LQMT is headed south.
Good luck to all in LQMT.
Wish TC luck.
They just don’t get it. They just constantly look at one elephant in the room and never can see the other elephant. In this case not too many are buying. Except the MM’s who have to buy otherwise there are no trades. Yes there is selling but there is no PANIC SELLING. I think that was the point in either direction.
And no unless you are counting the MM’s the outsiders are not holding 500 million LQMT shares. Better check with the MM’s before that claim is made.
LQMT IMHO has had many years and is having of this day a very bad time inking contracts of sales to sustain the company as evidenced in their own financial statements, where the cogs exceed the revenues from sales infinitely.
Does this mean they can’t land a whale? That’s the question all who have shares and all who are on the sidelines are waiting to see.
Buying or selling should be an individual decision. Regardless of the sanity or insanity involved.
Do not let anyone, especially on the www this board or any other try to get you to buy or sell. That is a personal decision. Whether some feel it is going to the moon or the garbage dump. The decision to buy hold or sell should always be yours. Whether you do due diligence or not, the decision on what you do with your hard earned money is yours.
Good luck to all in LQMT.
Wish TC luck.
Panic selling volume? What volume? Were there volumes of shares trading today? Or was there a transfer of shares back and forth? 50 60 70 or 100 thousand or even a few million shares sold is not panic selling volume.
It is anemic trading volume. Is not panic selling or buying volume of any kind.
1% ?…
Can’t vouch for the data, so here it goes…
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1005030222004819
10% won’t mean bubkis if LQMT gets 0%.
Good luck to all in LQMT.
Wish TC luck.
It’s all good, I realize there are still a few here who can still make common sense out of the nonsense. And in this case I do mean non cents.
Anybody?….
https://uspto.report/patent/app/20200071972
A short while ago F mentioned LQMT in a patent.
Any thoughts on the above are welcome.
I think you posted the wrong poster. I bought in over two decades ago. Way before the hype. I added later and then began to recoup the money with wash rinse and repeat cycles. With some of the gains I bought more.
I hold a long position from 2 decades ago. 1 from the Apple debacle and another when LL bought in.
If you read my posts. I don’t pay attention to the hype. If anything I explain the difference between the hype and the reality of any possibilities up or down.
I welcome all opinions on LQMT.
And from the actual performances of LQMT, you just might be right. Even if my positions were not bought based on the hype.
Sounds ridiculous to ask an outside shareholder, when they claim to talk with the biggest insider LL via emails.
Then again what the heck do i know? Not much.
You are not kidding he has made plenty.
I think for now that ship of new fools has also dried up. The first passengers on the LQMT ship of fools boarded twenty or so years ago. The second batch with the Apple debacle and the last batch with the China purchase. Looks like no more fools have boarded. The real fools might be those who do not understand how the purchases benefited each purchaser of the IP use.
Good luck to you.
All of your points are true. However they had the space the power approval and the money to expand. But in hindsight, what for? Does it really make a difference, does it really matter where the heck manufacturing is done, when there is no high volume parts to be made!!!
Now all can Pooh Pooh what ( LQMT) LL did when he shut it down and say he saved LQMT $$$$. That’s what I also thought originally.
But where the hell are all of those contracts for all of the touted manufacturing LL set up and the other LQMT executives screamed about. Talk about screwing your shareholders with getting their hopes up!!!!
And then there is the issue of back up manufacturing which tc says is not a problem! Really?
Good luck to you.
Don’t worry, big announcement soon from LQMT.
2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023……
Just be patient ZZZzzz ZZZzzz ZZZzzz
.044, .035, .025, .015, .010 & now the .05’s
The number one company of amorphous metals. Not the number one company of amorphous metal sales according to unconfirmed data. But definitely headed in the wrong direction in share price, trading volumes, liquidity, major customers and new contracts.
Again, other than the actual data, we are in a good spot. :)
Probably anyone who believes controlling about 46% of the companies outstanding shares is not enough to control the company and just so happens that the controlling shares executive also controls the high volume parts manufacturing abroad as well.
Oh and did I mention the same executive is also responsible for closing down domestic LQMT manufacturing at the OH in LF CA as well as shifting the manufacturing to his associates abroad.
Other than that. The said executive does not control the company. TC does. In a pigs eye.
Could be there is no connection.
Zzzzzz…
https://liquidmetal.com/medical/
“Medical Devices
Liquidmetal has experience producing many different components used in medical devices. Designers have utilized the precision of the molding process and the outstanding mechanical properties of Liquidmetal to meet the stringent requirements of their products.” source LQMT. See link above.
So where are the contracts with all of these major medical companies??? The above spiel is not from some outside poster. It’s from LQMT. Do you know how long that spiel has been going on? Go back to the PH days.
I think by now the whole world knows how great the material is. What the outsiders, who have invested for years now also know, is they have not seen a great contract to match the great rhetoric in the endeavor of LQMT Pursuing one!
Is it any wonder LQMT can be compared to the 3 card Monty game of where’s the Queen or the famous Abbot and Costello routine of Who’s on first!
Manufacturing prototypes is nice. Keeping your shareholders updated is nicer. Announcing a contract is best of all. But failing all three imo, is why the trading volumes are anemic and the share price hangs on as if it were on an I V drip. And outside interest? Well you let me know where?
It’s no wonder why everyone is so ecstatic while invested in LQMT. :) especially me. :)
Good luck to all in LQMT.
Wish TC luck.
Hope he gets over what seems like a long case of laryngitis. :)
Ok….so here is a website that is sure to stir the great finders.
https://csimarket.com/stocks/suppliers_glance.php?code=MDT
https://csimarket.com/stocks/suppliers_glance.php?code=TSLA
Good luck to all in LQMT.
Wish TC luck.
I can’t wait for all of those big announcements. :)
Waiting for déjà vu…
https://liquidmetal.gcs-web.com/news-releases/news-release-details/liquidmetal-technologies-joins-sony-corporation-develop-high
It happens when patience replaced potential!
Instead of PR’s like above. You get ZZZzzzz.
IMHO, there is something wrong when info true or false about LQMT seems to be always coming from the outside rather than the inside.
It’s imho, what happens when a company lacks effective leadership for a long period of time.
Doesn’t mean it can’t succeed. It just seems like there is something wrong when the share price declines to new lows, when trading volumes become anemic and reported revenues drop all at the same time.
Seems like déjà vu all over again.
If I see something new I’ll post it.
Good luck to all in LQMT.
Wish TC luck.
Where’s the sushi?
Where’s the beef?
Where? Tic tic tic tic tic tic….
How true.
Another week passes and the LQMT share price remains flat from 0.0585 cents to 0.058 cents, on extremely weak trading volumes and little interest. The same when LQMT moves up or down.
Without new sales contracts of any size or an announcement of any progress from LQMT, either on their executive blog or in a PR, the trend is for LQMT’s share price to continue to head lower as the fundamentals remain unchanged and reported revenues decline.
All who are in LQMT understand the potential to various degrees. Many see the potential nullified by viewing the existing management team for being totally ineffective, incompetent or worse. While others continue to give the management team a free pass and still all long terms imo, remain due to FOMO.
Otherwise everyone’s intellect would have overtaken everyone’s fears and they would have sold a long long long time ago at a higher price.
All seem to be waiting with a yawn for the next 10Q. Both the anemic volumes and declining share prices offer no clues to any positive surprises.
Even the hype and positive comments from around the www seems to be declining as well and unfortunately it is all to the credit of LQMT’s lackluster performance and not due to any negative posts.
Perhaps in 2024 or 2025 or 2026 LQMT might succeed and if they ever do make it in 2023, I’ll be very thankful and glad that they did. It is the main reason why FOMO lives and is probably as stated above the reason why anyone holds on regardless of any other opinion at this time.
There is nothing wrong with expecting skies are the limit or beyond. It just might take more time to get there. Time that many long terms don’t have any more.
Seems like this board had/has it right the whole time. Who knew? I just try to post the facts. After all, everyone knows my opinions are worth less than the price of a share of LQMT.
Good luck to all in LQMT.
Wish TC luck.
It’s unfortunate but the upper 0.4’s can happen real quick. Like within the month of July.
Based on fair value I don’t see the shrare price dropping below 0.041 cents. Always do your own DD before investing.
Remember going up or down in share price with anemic trading volumes means Bupkis.
Not only can that be true, the payoff too is a hell of a lot more.
Yes everything you observed from LQMT results and how they have remained silent in between financial reports, except for required PR’s points to failure with very little to zero chance at success.
I believe (only my opinion, which is worth bubkis) imho, all are aware of the dire situation at hand. Although anyone would reasonably conclude those reasons are the reasons to sell or stay away from LQMT.
However, There are a few compelling reasons to hold at a loss and to start a new position. None of those reasons have anything to do with any opinions on management. Unless one has their head buried in the sand.
Unfortunately LQMT’s only known supplier that can manufacture parts at high volume is based in China. Many businesses are now looking elsewhere to have materials purchased and manufacturing done. This leaves LQMT up shitts creek. As opportunities are becoming more scarce. As geo political relations with China worsen. Big businesses don’t want to rely on a single source supplier of materials or manufacturer. They cannot put their shareholders at risk or they could also be sued not to mention their stock would head south.
Big business cannot risk their shareholders investment the way LQMT has. That’s because imho, LQMT has never had a trending history of manufacturing large high volume orders to take advantage of a successful contract to fulfill the real or unreal potential in any of their endeavors to increase shareholder value. From auto, defense, sports, consumer electronics, non consumer electronics, industrial, medical etc., etc.
Risk Reward has zero value. But in LQMT’s case is a compelling reason to start a small position. Cash on hand may be another reason to hang on. FOMO is not a good reason to hang on. It is an emotional one. LQMT has a history of producing gains of 40% to 100% plus gains on wash rinse repeat cycles based on their own insignificant PR’s and not on rumors.
As far as buyouts go. One need not buyout LQMT to control it. Just review what LL has done. And no one need offer LQMT $1.00 a share or .50 cents a share to take control. If that were the case, I’m sure LL can find a buyer for his shares alone for a handsome profit at .25 cents a share off market.
It is because things are and look bleak that attract a few dozen or so investors. You roll the dice not because you have a positive outlook, but because the odds are against winning and if you do win you want to win big.
Now for long terms I’m sure most just want to get the heck out of this mess and walk away even or a little up. I suspect most would sell at that point and that point is less than 0.44 cents. Could be 10 cents 20 cents or maybe 30 cents. But there are a few others who want a dollar or more.
Right now it looks like all who bought in before and still have shares have been screwed or scammed. Right now it also looks like “one contract one deal can make a company” BB. Otherwise all of the executives with their warrants and options when they left LQMT are holding onto used toilet paper and the current insiders are holding onto fresh rolls.
Good luck to you.
Glad to see someone got out of this manure.
Investing in LQMT is like this…
That’s exactly why the few still hold on.
Good luck to you.
The point of the original conversation was not the $$$. It was never about the $$$. Focusing on the $$$, became a distraction. It was about who is using the IP. My opinion on the IP OF LQMT was/is no one invests millions to watch it waste away unless they want to earn more or keep other’s from earning more. Hence the patents etc., and the sales abroad.
Remember the shipped that sailed?
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=171312166
Put them all together :)
No I mean $84 million. There are two elephants in the room not one. I have mentioned this in a previous post.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=172255900
When one focuses on China they focus narrowly on LL. They forget the first elephant also doing business in China.
I believe the average share price is much higher.
And I would have explained where the $84 million dollars comes from, but only to serious investors. And not posters who are not really interested in LQMT’s success but only interested in focusing on other posters with constant dribble. They bring no research of their own to the board. I don’t mind anyone who posts negative or believes LQMT is a scam or a failure. That’s their honest opinion. They don’t focus any useless dribble on others constantly, wasting time. They don’t hype, pump or dump. The same goes for others who post positive.
I just post on the facts and if they do or don’t connect to LQMT’s bottom line. So far to my knowledge I haven’t been wrong in my assessments. Not after the giddy days after Li turned the lights off at LF CA.
Good luck to you.
Anyone who knows how to do research on LQMT will easily see where the $84+ million dollars quoted by me came from. And if anyone needs help they can read all of my posts where I comment where the $84 plus million dollars came from. It’s no secret it’s no trick or sleight of hand.
Some horses require blinders to prevent peripheral distractions. When researching LQMT it is necessary to take the blinders off. Read carefully what I post and widen your focus. I make no illusions in my posts. There is a difference between investing in LQMT’s shares and LQMT’s IP. There is a clear distinction between the two.
Is there someone out there that can help the someone out there and explain where the total figure of $84 million dollars comes from that I refer to in my posts to explain that the $84 million invested in LQMT was not to throw money away or to watch shares depreciate, but to earn 100’s of millions, by using the SHARED AND BOUGHT IP TO BE USED IN PARTS TO SELL PRODUCTS?
No one wastes millions to develop patents. Unless they want to use them or prevent others from using them.
Is there anyone out there that can answer the $84 million dollar question for someone or for anyone that either refuses to, is too lazy to or is just inept at doing their own Due Diligence on LQMT?