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That is exactly the state of LQMT. It is always almost there but never almost here!
If it LQMT was almost here. For certain the volumes would be much higher as interest would be piqued.
You can never be proven wrong when you’re right. Even if LQMT hits the jackpot.
And that’s no joke :)
Was this a joke?
https://liquidmetal.com/liquidmetal-lm106c-is-now-iso-10993-certified/
When? Where are the contracts? Funny LL had no problem selling it to China whales when he was ceo at LQMT USA. Yet no big contract with a whale and LQMT USA! Conflict of interest????
Is this the real reason for all of the superficial management musical chairs????
Good luck to all in LQMT.
Wish TC luck.
They beat us to the moon too!….
https://motivss.com/products-capabilities/robotics/
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/motiv-space-systems-is-engineering-the-first-robotic-arm-to-survive-the-extreme-cold-of-the-moon-301216105.html
https://motivss.com/cold-operable-lunar-deployable-arm/
https://motivss.com/
And yes it incorporates BULK METAL GLASS!
https://motivss.com/?s=Bulk+metal+glass
https://www.linkedin.com/company/amorphology
https://amorphology.com/
FYI: D. Hoffman worked at LQMT and left in 2010
Also Cal Tech., which opened the doors to LQMT.
While LQMT (blah blah blah blah’s) talk. Others seem able to walk.
Not very encouraging :(
Good luck to all in LQMT.
Wish TC luck.
Everyone else with brains gets grants.
We get 10Q’s and 10Ks and a few PR’s with no beef! :(
Not a pretty picture right now! The 0.04’s the 0.05’s the 0.06’s the 0.07’s etc., etc. :(
Another week passes and the LQMT share price is up 2% from 0.04805 cents to 0.049 cents on extremely weak trading volumes and little interest. The same when LQMT moves up or down.
Can the share price go lower? Yes, if the volumes remain anemic, which they are and TC & Co. Releases no updates on progress or a contract with a new customer or old one.
But always remember the share price means bubkis without trading volumes in the millions of shares daily. Meaning extreme low interest in the stock.
Perhaps in 2024 or 2025 or 2026 LQMT might succeed and if they ever do make it in 2023, I’ll be very thankful and glad that they did.
FOMO lives and is probably the main reason why anyone holds on regardless of any other opinion at this time.
LQMT has sufficient cash as of the last 10Q to keep their phone line open and per-sue contracts.
This board had/has it right the whole time. Who knew? I just try to post the facts. After all, everyone knows my opinions are worth less than the price of a share of LQMT. I think I nailed it, when LL virtually closed the doors on the new LQMT HQ’s.
Two questions remain unanswered:
Q1. Still would like to know where that extra $5,000.00 dollars came from? As stated in 10Q2?
Q2. How come LL over in China has no problems getting amorphous metal prototypes accepted by whales abroad but LQMT USA, has had zero whales accepting LQMT’s prototypes here in the USA?
I try to present a balanced view based on the facts not on the emotions of anyone hyping or bashing LQMT.
LQMT can go to the moon or stay in the crapper. Both views are correct. It’s just that right now for LQMT the moon seems like the size of a distant star, while the crapper seems to be as big as a garbage dump waste site.
There still are a lot of doubts if LQMT is ever going to succeed given the history and the manner in which the ip was shared and shares were sold to LL and ip to Eontec.
Good luck to all in LQMT.
Wish TC luck.
An executive does not file a form to pump. Or to signify anything is coming unless he or she wants to spend some time in a small room with the Feds.
It was done to fulfill a legal requirement and to decide when and if possible to exercise those options favorable.
There always seems to be an aura of suspicion surrounding what LQMT executives do. Sometimes it borders on paranoia and even extends itself to some of the posts between posters.
But as I said earlier today if anyone or anything can move the share price up at no more costs to outside shareholders kept in the dark….then bring it on. 2 decades plus is enough for me. Besides LQMT is now into 19 months without a new contract announcement or new partnership. A new record in recent times going back to 2017
I’ll take 0.11 cents on my short term wash rinse and repeat cycle position.
I’m guessing the options are an incentive to do something to receive $$$. As outside shareholders, I’m guessing again, all thought it was to increase shareholder value by increasing revenues and thought LL was infallible in getting LQMT to a better place. Things look so bleak right now, that all angles and theories to raise the share price look good.
It all accounts for the mood across the www and why trading volumes, interest and share prices in LQMT have declined as well as the expressions of disappointment in the executives to move LQMT forward.
I’m guessing again, I think many long term shareholders will sell a part of their positions should LQMT’s share price hit the teens or 20’s. Some will sell all and others will hold smaller positions for the opportunity to gain more or lose less.
A lot of emotions are here in an investment that never should have taken place due to what we know and what we think we know.
Good luck to you.
I agree, but with the incompetence it would not have had a different outcome no matter where they opened up the new OH. With the naïveté of the executives (as stated above,) LQMT would have had the same outcome for less money. It’s actually more than incompetence. It borders on lack of ambition, laziness and the gray areas of what was in the best interests for the shareholders. It seems the only one believing in LQMT benefiting from contracts of any size and attracting new customers was/is DM. Like Paul, Dan believed in the trade shows and given the capacity that LQMT had with Engel and others and the possibility to add domestic manufacturing, the trade shows were the right fit. However LQMT never had the right contact language in place , when it came to the expense for prototyping.
That is correct TC only exercised his required filling, should he want to exercise his options in the event the share price is above the issue price as stated on the form that is required to be filled out as indicated, when the options were offered.
Many mistakenly believe the form to be the actual exercise of those options. The required form notifies the public not of TC’s intent, but his rights to those shares as stated with the current expiration when they were offered.
He can purchase those shares now if he wants to at the issue price and sell them for a loss right now or hold them for a gain should the SP exceed the issue price or he can as he is doing now, securing the rights to those shares in the event the share price rises above the issue price for any reason. For example: LQMT is sold or LQMT inks a contract for revenue. Or somehow the www is successful at pumping up the share price.
Good luck to you.
Thank you, I have concluded that LL did not buy the company to destroy it. After all what was there to destroy? I believe he needed to acquire the IP and material improvements along with brand recognition to incorporate and prosper in China first. Of course controlling competition helps in those endeavors. From the unverified data abroad I cannot determine how successful LL is.
If he is successful then I conclude LQMT will also be successful. Of course no one can know for certain how the political frictions play out. As for now they do not help a company who solely depends on manufacturing from a source whose governments seem to be always muddying up the waters.
In the filed data it’s obvious that LQMT depends on the health of China. Even on its website as well. LL may be everything everyone is complaining about, but one thing he is not. He is not ignorant and he is very intelligent.
Good luck to you.
Stay well.
It’s been that way since LL closed down domestic manufacturing. Anytime before the rental, LQMT could have expanded their equipment and manufacturing capacity and could have expanded production. That is what BB was trying to do but didn’t have all of the facts in place when they first opened up the new OH.
I believe his miscalculations led to the shutdown, partnership and transfer of manufacturing.
It doesn’t make a difference at what address personnel are working from or idling from.
You don’t need the lights to be on in LF CA., where no manufacturing is done and when manufacturing is done in China. LQMT is a contract company according to LQMT. So all LQMT needs is call forwarding to pick up a mobile phone or record a message anywhere in the world.
From looking around at all of the manufacturers and those delving into amorphous metal using traditional methods of producing parts it appears that no one realized that the metal was and is not cost effective unless it is either used for a very high priced selling product or a high volume product. Thus a product like an expensive watch, which is not high volume finds a home. The other conundrum was LQMT always lacked the funds and venture capital to produce and create a process to produce high volume parts.
In essence the blind or ignorant were leading the blind and ignorant investors since ipo imo. In hindsight we can all see this. Even the ceo of Engel stated he did not realize how difficult it was to manufacture and sell amorphous metals until after Engel had contracted with LQMT. They admitted their ignorance as well. Ditto for Materion which had the $$$ to do it but chose not to. The material requires a lot of upfront millions and brains to try to cost effectively compete with other less costlier materials. Then to there are certain limitations in the medical field due to law suits. Yes there are millions of places in the medical field where a spring a gear an instrument is better suited for LQMT amorphous metal. But it has to make a huge difference for companies to increase cost. Those instruments require high volume orders.
I think we all realize the small contracts do not make a company by now. I think LL realizes it too. However, due to government subsidies in China LL has been afforded a process and a way to produce this metal at higher volumes. Thus giving China an edge in competition. It’s not about fairness. It’s how whales are built. It happens in the USA too. With the oil industry the railroad industry the auto and telecommunications industry. It’s why the government here went after AT&T back in the 80’s to break the company up. China is not interested in fair competition or unfair competition. They want to be number 1 in everything.
Now if the last paragraph is true, it makes it much more difficult for other companies outside of China to compete once China’s home grown companies compete in China and outside of China.
Thus either other whales who want to compete with China have no other recourse then to either duplicate what China has done (if they are ambitious) or they, whoever they are will be beholden to China’s way of one manufacturing source regardless of how many manufacturers there are in China making amorphous metal parts.
I don’t know of any other high volume high capacity manufacturers that can compete with China’s amorphous metal manufacturers. Perhaps 3D printing might. But the structural integrity is not the same from what I read. Maybe that is not the case today. Perhaps 3D printing has improved.
The military here too does not care about costs and sometimes contracts are awarded imo due to corruption not fairness imo.
If my opinions are half correct it is why we see very little revenue growth in LQMT and a declining share price. It is also why we might see a one off contract that can also put LQMT on the map.
Has anyone invested in LQMT given any thought to my previous post on ihub here? I can see there was some serious thoughts about it elsewhere.
For now or just to humor me, let’s forget about whether LQMT is going to a dollar now or to a penny or out of business right now or to the moon. For neither is going to happen right now. For example: what business is LQMT in that they are going to go out of business from?
That said, they have some cash and little assets and are definitely from the little I understand not dependent on the minuscule reported revenues to continue with their market endeavors.
So rather than focusing on who said what. Let’s try if it is at all possible to focus on LQMT.
There was significance in what I was trying to point out. It was solely based on what LQMT put out and not from a second or third party source.
Meaning it’s verifiable. More than that, it is still possible.
Now if any of this makes sense keep in mind there is more to it than just verifying LQMT’s/LL’s manufacturing capacities. Sometimes that can be answered by the number of incorporated amorphous metal products recorded as sold by whales ordering from LL’s associated manufacturing companies abroad.
The other important factor is can another whale outside of China have their products made by another amorphous metal manufacturer outside of China?
If I have to explain why that is very important, than all not interested in LQMT can return to; is LQMT going to a penny or a dollar conversation.
Good luck to all in LQMT.
Wish TC luck.
Do you remember reading this???…
“Work continues, especially in China, to expand the availability of materials, molding machines and manufacturing operations in anticipation of rapidly growing demand.”
Source LQMT
Or this???…
“The nature of our technology fits best with high performance, high volume applications, which are extremely competitive. The upside is tremendous: a single project can make a company. Liquidmetal’s market potential is large within our target markets.”
Source LQMT.
Although things do look bleak, in fact very bleak right now. It is no indication of what LQMT will look like tomorrow should their own forward worded opinions come to fruition. Have they completed their expansion of manufacturing capacity abroad??? Has anyone with theories who search the www, verified it???
It realistically appears from looking at the factual data of LQMT’s revenues that if the share price is ever going to get out of the crapper. It will do so with a one off contract. Not ever on continuous, insignificant and minuscule wash and repeat cycle contracts.
All now who hold, wait patiently for LL to pull the rabbit out of the hat once again.
While the facts point to a more dismal future for LQMT. The forward worded ones of LQMT point to a successful conclusion. It is the LQMT spin that has helped keep FOMO alive and not the theories of nonsense by those searching for a crumb lines across the www., to soothe the hunger for success.
I did not invest in LQMT to settle for the crumbs to soothe my hunger for LQMT’s success. I invested in LQMT to succeed and settle for the beef to feed my hunger.
It’s not greed. It’s a dice roll. Just watch your hands and let the dice roll.
Good luck to all in LQMT.
Wish LL luck.
Hope you feel better as for the rest of your message, I’m sure you have plenty of company on all of your points of view.
Wishing you well.
I think the IMO was omitted in error.
Another week passes and the LQMT share price dropped 12.48% from 0.0549 cents to 0.04805 cents on extremely weak trading volumes and little interest. The same when LQMT moves up or down. LQMT still is trading in the .04’s as predicted a long time ago, based on the long term trends of LQMT’s failures to change their fundamentals. Again this board nailed it and read the fundamentals of LQMT correctly.
Looks like BB may have nailed it correctly too, in his forward worded commentary, alluding to the fact that LQMT’s success could be a one off.
If you are bullish, LQMT is cheap at any price under a dime. If you are bearish LQMT is too expensive at any price right now.
Looks like anyone pumping or hyping LQMT’s possibilities got caught with empty pockets. Where as LQMT over the years would trade with higher volumes at higher prices. It now trades less with lower prices. One would think either the deep pockets of those pumping and hyping exist no more or the conviction too has truthfully evaporated.
Can the share price go lower? Only if the volumes remain anemic, which they are and TC & Co. Releases no updates on progress or a contract with a new customer or old one.
But always remember the share price means bubkis without trading volumes in the millions of shares daily.
To iterate; Without new sales contracts of any size or an announcement of any progress from LQMT, either on their executive blog or in a PR, the trend is for LQMT’s share price to continue to head lower as the fundamentals remain unchanged and reported revenues decline.
The following was an accurate prediction. Except LQMT dipped below 0.045 and hit my LQMT valuation price.
“The share price can drop between 0.045 and 0.049 as the value of LQMT is heading south and not north.”
Perhaps in 2024 or 2025 or 2026 LQMT might succeed and if they ever do make it in 2023, I’ll be very thankful and glad that they did.
FOMO lives and is probably is the main reason why anyone holds on regardless of any other opinion at this time.
This board had/has it right the whole time. Who knew? I just try to post the facts. After all, everyone knows my opinions are worth less than the price of a share of LQMT. I think I nailed it, when LL virtually closed the doors on the new LQMT HQ’s.
Two questions remain unanswered:
Q1. Still would like to know where that extra $5,000.00 dollars came from? As stated in 10Q2?
Q2. How come LL over in China has no problems getting amorphous metal prototypes accepted by whales abroad but LQMT USA, has had zero whales accepting LQMT’s prototypes here in the USA?
I try to present a balanced view based on the facts not on the emotions of anyone hyping or bashing LQMT.
LQMT can go to the moon or stay in the crapper. Both views are correct. It’s just that right now for LQMT the moon seems like the size of a distant star, while the crapper seems to be as big as a garbage dump waste site.
Good luck to all in LQMT.
Wish TC luck.
The longer it takes to serve up the beef, the cheaper the LQMT shares become. It’s only a surprise to those with their heads in the sand.
But remember, with anemic trading volumes it means bubkis.
With all of the shares from a flim flam artist of whatever shares. It would still be anemic trading and the SP would still be worth bubkis. Without revenue growth and not just share volume uptick growth, the stock is still worth bubkis.
No more trade shows??? They must have been a huge success.
DM, let’s not get too lazy…
No more trade shows could be construed as a tell.
And those consignment personnel are they necessary? This too can be construed as another tell.
Outside owners are highly intelligent regardless of all the secrecy and sometimes awkward posts of theories.
Is the beef you are serving fresh or frozen? Are the salads and veggies fresh or frozen?
All outsiders want to eat well
Good luck to all in LQMT.
Wish TC luck.
The only loose ends that LQMT can’t hide are those unearned salaries and options of those very very hard working executives.
Oh, least everyone forgets and I don’t see how. Those decreasing share values.
As far as secrecy, there are no loose ends there. Not one.
And now more old news that looks new to some who just don’t know what it’s all about…..
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1141240/000089706923001251/xslF345X05/form4.xml
So to break it down. It just means in the event of some miracle TC has a right to the options as stated expiring 07/06/2031.
Read the fine print if you need help….
“1. The shares covered by the Option vested one-third at the conclusion of the 90-day period following the date of the grant. Thereafter, the shares covered by the Option vested one-third on the first anniversary of the date of grant and the remaining one-third on the second anniversary of the date of grant. Form 4 for option grant was inadvertently not timely filed, but grant was reported on Form 8-K filed by issuer on July 9, 2021.”
That TC, he’s always thinking about us.
Good luck to all in LQMT.
Wish TC luck.
Well, one thing is for sure. The wasted BS LQMT wave cycle of Apple hype in the fall cycle is gone.
Now that’s a relief.
Nothing like great finds. :(
Sounds familiar? Not another one!…
https://medicine.yale.edu/news/yale-medicine-magazine/article/scratching-the-surface-metallic-glass-implants/
https://www.sbir.gov/sbc/supercool-metals-llc
https://www.supercoolmetals.com/
Just another pie in the face.
Thank you LQMT & the executives who run it.
Or do they?
Hmmm?
Just where the heck is TC & Co.?
Good luck to all in LQMT.
Wish TC luck.
Where the heck was he, when the government recently started to hand out millions again?
Well guess who got the handouts?
Supercool Metals LLC. That’s who.
Not to agree or disagree. Seems????
We need a few green giants.
Don’t hold me to it, but I hear some deep pockets are glancing the dice roll over. As a crap shoot and not anything else.
The BMG industry has legs. It can take awhile or a year or two.
Good luck to all in LQMT.
Wish TC luck.
I believe At one point in time the two were linked together via LL. But nothing came out of it. It was around the same time LQMT was exploring Zyris.
LQMT not talking about golf clubs anymore. But it’s not over yet. All depends on global acceptance. Japan is in the driver’s seat.
Good luck to all in LQMT.
Wish TC luck.
Was it another scam?
Significantly Regulated Organizations Added in February 2017
https://www.fda.gov/media/102832/download
… 045545589 Lancer Orthodontics, Inc. USA LANZ 153732961 Liquidmetal Technologies, Inc. USA LQMT 079854484 …
http://lancerortho.com/products.php
Another week passes and the LQMT share price is flat from 0.055 cents to 0.0549 cents, but not before exceeding a new all time record low trading share price on extremely weak trading volumes and little interest. The same when LQMT moves up or down. LQMT traded in the .04’s as predicted a long time ago. Again this board nailed it and read the fundamentals of LQMT correctly.
If you are bullish, LQMT is cheap at any price under a dime. If you are bearish LQMT is too expensive at any price right now.
Can the share price go lower? Only if the volumes remain anemic, which they are and TC & Co. Releases no updates on progress or a contract with a new customer or old one.
But always remember the share price means bubkis without trading volumes in the millions of shares daily.
To iterate; Without new sales contracts of any size or an announcement of any progress from LQMT, either on their executive blog or in a PR, the trend is for LQMT’s share price to continue to head lower as the fundamentals remain unchanged and reported revenues decline.
The following was an accurate prediction. Except LQMT dipped below 0.045 and hit my LQMT valuation price.
“The share price can drop between 0.045 and 0.049 as the value of LQMT is heading south and not north.”
Perhaps in 2024 or 2025 or 2026 LQMT might succeed and if they ever do make it in 2023, I’ll be very thankful and glad that they did.
FOMO lives and is probably is the main reason why anyone holds on regardless of any other opinion at this time.
With honey you attract the bees.
With dung you attract the flies.
Looking around the www only flies were bouncing off the dung and not bees off the honey LQMT served up this passed week. As they have been doing for many many months now.
This board had/has it right the whole time. Who knew? I just try to post the facts. After all, everyone knows my opinions are worth less than the price of a share of LQMT. I think I nailed it, when LL virtually closed the doors on the new LQMT HQ’s.
Two questions remain unanswered:
Q1. Still would like to know where that extra $5,000.00 dollars came from? As stated in 10Q2?
Q2. How come LL over in China has no problems getting amorphous metal prototypes accepted by whales abroad but LQMT USA, has had zero whales and only acceptance by customers in the last decade amounting to insignificant contracts.?
I try to present a balanced view based on the facts not on the emotions of anyone hyping or bashing LQMT.
LQMT can go to the moon or stay in the crapper. Both views are correct. It’s just that right now for LQMT the moon seems like the size of a distant star, while the crapper seems to be as big as a garbage dump waste site.
Good luck to all in LQMT.
Wish TC luck.
Yes and that is a very very low ratio. I don’t know how many companies trade in this range.
There is no right price with the revenues LQMT has been reporting for anyone optimistic or bullish. Any price under a dime is definitely cheap. Even if one were bearish, buying LQMT under a dime is cheap.
The right price for anyone hesitant makes sense in hindsight.
If you have been reading my posts then you already know I have been riding the waves of the wash rinse and repeat cycles and often suggested others look into it as well. A term often used by Eagle and later on by me.
May add? And you are bullish??? Hmmm?
Over 2 decades.
Good point for all the wrong reasons.
I don’t think it stinks or is boring. I think it’s the opportunity of a lifetime and from when I bought in, it’s been a lifetime and that’s no BS.