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I think fenmore was not comparing PK to those others.
He was trying to say that past suits and failures donot represent the present or future.
Also just because it is going to trail means nothing.
A motion for trail was granted a trail based on the coplaint that Burger King and McDonalds food made an individual obeses. Their complaint went to trail on the motion that they donot state on their products that it will make you fat.
Going to trail proves nothing, yet.
God Bless
WHEN HAS LUDLOW PROMISED US ANYTHING EITHER?
They have given their estimated target prices, nothing more.
When will you answer my questions about proof of your post?
It is still not the same as a press release, nor does the market react to it the same as a public press release from the company.
You will see soon enough.
They are not press releases from the company.
That is what all here have been posting, and waiting for to push the PPS up.
Read the "stock investors" posts more carefully please.
God Bless
Things aren't going forward as expected and promised by Cephas.
Calc,
When did Cephas promise us anything?
Please post where you got this "Statement of Truth".
BOO HOO
IT IS 3:34 PM AND THE PPS IS 0.088
10% INCREASE FOR THE DAY.
lol
Still waiting on your proof Calc.
Sorry I reposted this, but I needed to differentiate his statements from mine.
Thanks for you lenience.
If you can not provide it, please refrain from posting such info. It will mislead any potential investors.
Lets look at your post:
20 million in accumulated losses which are still on the books.
10 years collective, which are not on the CEHC books.
Talk to any accountant about yearly losses. They do not roll over to the next year.
Millions of current losses and growing.
Please post your proof as to this and growing statement,and the millions of current losses.
Shares doled out like candy to those who would benefit from any revenue that might spike the PPS.
The outstanding shares have not increased for quite some time. Please prove that shares are being doled out like candy.
Several law suits for many thousands of dollars. One last week and another this week and more.
Please show the judgements that show PK has lost any of these "so called"suits.
Serious domestic issues that can impact time lines and judgment.
How do you know how "Serious" PK's domestic issues are? Are you Klamka's or Gable's attorney? Please post your proof.
Ten year history of failures.
A company still running and trying to produce revenue streams after ten years is not a failure. A company that went bancrupt and closedits doors is a failure.
Demolished relationships with notorious people who will spread the word, like Michael Jordan and Claudia Shiffer and several more.
When was the last time you spoke to these so called "demolished people"? I do not see any of them bad mouthing Peter publicly.Please post your proof of these statements. If I had a relasionship that was demolished, I sure would not allow them to use my name on a IR firm website and on CEHC website. So they must not be in to bad a relationship.
Involvement with many other shells that have zero revenue etc etc.
That only proves that he is constantly trying to make money. Not that they are failed. In order to sell a shell, it must be clean, without revenues.
PK's reputation is tainted, imo and forward movement will be impacted by the past. New blood that doesn't do their DD is the way he has to move now.
Like every thing else stated here, this is just your baseless opinion.
We will all be waiting for your "current proof."
Not his "so called" reputation.
God Bless
Lets look at your post:
20 million in accumulated losses which are still on the books.
10 years collective, which are not on the CEHC books. Talk to any accountant about yearly losses. They do not roll over to the next year.
Millions of current losses and growing.
Please post your proof as to this and growing statement,and the millions of current losses.
Shares doled out like candy to those who would benefit from any revenue that might spike the PPS.
The outstanding shares have not increased for quite some time. Please prove that shares are being doled out like candy.
Several law suits for many thousands of dollars. One last week and another this week and more.
Please show the judgements that show PK has lost any of these "so called"suits.
Serious domestic issues that can impact time lines and judgment.
How do you know how "Serious" PK's domestic issues are? Are you Klamka's or Gable's attorney? Please post your proof.
Ten year history of failures.
A company still running and trying to produce revenue streams after ten years is not a failure. A company that went bancrupt and closedits doors is a failure.
Demolished relationships with notorious people who will spread the word, like Michael Jordan and Claudia Shiffer and several more.
When was the last time you spoke to these so called "demolished people"? I do not see any of them bad mouthing Peter publicly.Please post your proof of these statements. If I had a relasionship that was demolished, I sure would not allow them to use my name on a IR firm. So they must not be in to bad a relationship.
Involvement with many other shells that have zero revenue etc etc.
That only proves that he is constantly trying to make money. Not that they are failed. In order to sell a shell, it must be clean, without revenues.
PK's reputation is tainted, imo and forward movement will be impacted by the past. New blood that doesn't do their DD is the way he has to move now.
Like every thing else stated here, this is just your baseless opinion.
We will all be waiting for your "current proof."
Not his "so called" reputation.
God Bless
NITE & ABLE have been controlling the ask for weeks.
No one can say they do not have a vested interest in keeping this puppy down.
IMO...they are both holding "MANY NAKED SHORTS"
AND NO I CAN "NOT PROVE THAT".
No one can prove or disprove naked shorting.
So for some one to say there are no naked shorts, that is only an opinion as well.
God Bless
It appears as though PK is trying real hard to put together amultiple revenue streams for the company.
If the first twogames make big money, then others will want in.
This fighting games stream of revenue, stem cell, and alternative energy could produce a very viable company.
Let's not forget the rights to all the mma fight films that CEHC has for DVD/blueray production, the mma multiple leagues he was trying to put together, and the merger of mergers that has been heard about.
Many different streams of possible income here.
We just need everything properly press released to produce the maximum pop on the PPS.
Then let the revenue reports do the rest.
God Bless
freewheel,
I confirm this info to be accurate.
I received the same info via telephone this morning.
All we need now is for Peter to start the PR press.
God Bless
Very well stated freewheel.
I am hearing that there is much more in the works that even Ludlow has not posted.
When Peter starts to tell all what is going on, with this very low float, in few hands, this ship will sail.
When the revenues start to add up, we have more than a speculation stock.
IMO...that will start short term. SOON.
Good luck and God Bless all shareholders.
IMO...Very soon we will see multiple releases.
They will confirm what many have heard from their sources, and what Ludlow is saying.
That is when the tears of someone here will flow. lol
This move northward will be just the beginning of what PK is trying to build for his investors.
A REVENUE GENERATING COMPANY!!!!!
Please post your proof for the following statement:
"The company has gone silent because PK is real busy right now, busy trying to bail out of court actions that could end this shell game.
Are you his attorney too. lol
You need to stop posting all your opinions as facts. Actually just wild arse negative guesses.
Have a good Sunday all.
Make that about 20 million that I know of freewheel.
The float is very low.
God Bless
You know for a fact that if a hedge fund can force a company to go belly up, then they do not have to cover all the "NAKED SHORTS"
Over the ten years you say you have been following this stock, there has been many opportunities to accumulate millions of naked shorts.
THAT ADDS UP TO MOOKOO BUCKS IN THEIR POCKETS.
That makes plenty $$$$$$$ of sense, and you know this has been an on going problem with penny stocks.
IMO....this will break loose soon enough.
First of all....you know the mm's are manipulating this stock downward to cover.
When you hit the ask and they take it lower, instead of higher.....they are playing games.
How many more shares do the longs need to own?
Why don't you buy any, since you are so consumed by the stock?
Most of us have our boats loaded, and are waiting for this puppy to run.
When this gets past a dollar, and you buy in, and get stuck holding the bag....then again, it will be Peter Klamka's fault.
lol
I agree freewheel.
The upside of this stock could be booming.
JMHO of course.
God Bless
I hope you are right freewheel,
Other boards are saying news on the 18th.
I am still hearing the week of the 23rd at the earliest.
God Bless
PICK UP THE PHONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CALL TOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TELL HIM ALL OF HIS SHORT COMINGS.
WE ARE TIRED OF HEARING THEM.
AND THE MM'S ARE THE ONES DRIVING THE ASK DOWN!
NO REFLECTION OF THE MARKET, AND YOU KNOW IT! lol
Why can't certain individuals accept the good news of Fedor and CEHC potential gain for their investors.
Why must each post be picked apart, and twisted to a negative?
CEHC and Ludlow are showing all potential investors that Peter Klamka is moving the company forward, and trying to put together a long term money making revenue stream.
He is also trying to put together dividend spin-off companies to reward those investors that have believed all this time.
I commend his efforts.
I wish all here would see his attempts, and not try to twist each move to find anything negative that can be read between the lines.
God Bless
CALC,
NEED MORE PROOF.
Cephas Holding signed, signed, signed, signed, signed, signed Fedor Emelianenko, one of the most recognized mixed martial arts athletes in the world, to a three-year contract for the development of games and mobile phone games and applications.
We better ask CEHC to post Fedor's birth certificate to proof he is who they say he is. lol
PICK UP THE PHONE.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WE CAN NOT ANSWER FOR TOM (LUDLOW)
YOU WOULD ASK US FOR PROOF ANYHOW.
SO CALL FOR YOURSELF AND GET THOSE QUESTIONS ANSWERED FROM THE SOURCE.
Nothing keeping anyone from calling them.
Anyone who wants to even the playing field, can make the call.
Ask for Tom.
You will have to wait until tomorrow though.
They also have all the info on the website, and also in the flash presentation for all to see.
What is unethical about that?
Anyone who wants to talk to them, or visit their website, or check out the flash presentation.... "CAN".
If anyone wants to get the info, it is at their disposal....but what more could one expect from someone who does not want to find out anything good about CEHC.
I hope they do not delay to long.
God Bless
Calc,
As usual, you try to read negative between the lines.
If there is a way to find anything suspect to twist against the company, you will find it.
It is very clear that a fighter has been signed. Tom has told several people, including myself, that it is Fedor, and a "SIGNED CONTRACT" is completed, not a "LETTER OF INTENT".
Call Ludlow and ask for TOM!!!!!!!
He will talk to you. If you say you can not get a hold of him, or he never returns your calls, I can only make the assumption that YOU NEVER CALLED.......because the rest of us that call him talk with him.
God Bless
I agree freewheel.
I hope they do not delay to long.
The window of opportunity is short.
God Bless
I have heard from some one close to the company, that they are hoping for an upturn in the market, before launching their new releases.
I hope they do not wait to long, if this is true.
The window of opportunity may close on them.
God Bless
Call them and ask them why.
They answer each of my calls.
If you really want to know what is going on with CEHC, call Peter Klamka or Eric Joffe.
They are reachable as well.
Stop asking all hear to get your answers for you.
You do not believe our answers anyhow.
God Bless
I see by this response that you have not listened to the flash presentation that Sweet Crude posted.
It is in writing, and verbal on there, that the fighter is signed.
DONE DEAL!
Why do you keep saying he is not signed?
Listen to the flash presentation before you post your negatism.
It will take press releases from the company, and I am hearing that the company will be putting out nothing until after at least the 20th of Feb.
Just what I have heard.
God Bless
Big John is not a fighter.
If you would listen to any of the positive posts or links put on this board you would see that Ludlow has publicly printed and stated that CEHC has a fighter signed.
flash presentation
Pretty informative. YOU SHOULD ACTUALLY TRY LISTENING TO IT!!!!
http://www.wallstreetnewscast.com/flash/cehc.swf
Make sure to turn on your speaker.
God Bless
ABLE and NITE still controlling the ASK.
Either some one is dumping, or the mm's are fighting each other to cover.
I believe it to be the latter.
Hope we see a strong close.
God Bless
Looks good Sweet
I posted it on my CEHC board.
Hope the company confirms a part of this at a time with a few different press releases.
God Bless
The market makers moved the price of the ask down after each buy, at the ask.
How often do you see a stock get hit time after time at the ask price, then they drop the ask?
That is what happened all day.
They wanted it to look as though it was a sell off.
I know the person that bought the 500K slot @ 0.04
The persons bid to buy was higher then it was purchased for.
That is pure Market Maker Manipulation.
NO OTHER EXPLAINATION.!!!!!!
IF YOU HAD WATCHED THE LEVEL TWO AS THE DAY PROGRESSED, YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN THE SAME THING.
AFTER THE CLOSE, TO LOOK AT THE OVERALL DAY, IT JUST APPEARED TO BE A SELL OFF.
JUST LIKE THEY WANTED.
MANY HERE SAW WHAT I SAW.
God Bless
OVER 1 MILLION SHARES TODAY!
Someone is buying!
The question is....
DOES SOMEONE KNOW SOMETHING?
No one can say the MM's are not driving this down.
Opened @ 0.065 Ask
The ask was hit and then dropped to 0.06
The ask was hit 4 times and then dropped 0.05
The ask was hit 6 times and then dropped to 0.045
The bid was hit for the first time today @ 0.04
200K more at the ask 0.045, Now they finally move it up, but only back to 0.05.
WHAT A JOKE!
Look at the level two. They want you to think some one is selling off, when the ask was hit 11 trades in a row.
The ask should go up when there is a buy, not down!
MM's covering IMO
Hopefully that means something is coming down the pike.
God Bless