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The question for CYDY leadership is when to release what information. Less than earth shattering information will receive strong pushback from adversaries which continue to keep the company and drug irrelevant.
Please weigh in if anyone knows...what will move the FDA needle:
Obviously assuming very positive trial results.
M2M efficacy alone?
M2M plus safety data on S2C?
M2M plus midpoint on S2C?
Is it fair ethically/morally to hold info until uplisting, then release all the news. Could that even happen?
The last scenario probably provides the biggest impact to shareholders, but does the company fully control timing of info with the stakes so high?
Getting amped up thinking about the possibilities for the world, “ Rocky” on in the background, (for the 137th time,)highly caffeinated pre workout shake in hand ... “Gonna Fly Now”!
C’mon we gotta have some fun here!
Exciting times!
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All good. This is a discussion board about CYDY and all comments are fair game. Best practices to not fall in love with investments. It is difficult with a “”story Stock” like Leronlimab that has proven anecdotally to save lives, but we should all stay clear minded on our personal goals and objectives with each investment.
It appears we are collectively frustrated and are all acting out a bit, including me, due in part to unresolved expectations and timing.
I didn’t comment that I had a problem or not with NP selling shares. Quite frankly, I am not sure how I feel about it...but I was also already invested when he did it. I have been involved in CYDY for 8 to 10 years.
I am providing objective points of discussion. I said people who are not close to the story and looking to buy Into the company see the CEO and COB selling shares, before any approvals, it “may be a red flag in their DD”. Especially with an OTC stock where many things have been promised and not delivered. I build cases and arguments for a living and that move, while possibly needed at the time, is a building block for arguments that bashers point to along with other mistakes to make a case that this is a “ pump and dump”. The bashers have been given tools to be very effective. I believe in the drug, and I have concerns about the CEO’s experience and qualifications to execute from here based on numerous gaffs. From what I have heard and seen from NP, he seems like a good guy.
I have personally spoken to friends that are or have been in the “C” Suite of public companies and I will tell you they had a real big problem with him and COB selling shares at this point in time.
No money is made until shares are sold. The ride up to $10 was good old fashioned “irrational exuberance”.
As always: GLTA
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CYDY shareholders play the DD card an awful lot. That’s good, but one of the first DD points an investor should do is find out if insiders are buying or selling. I am not saying NP shouldn’t have sold shares, but the optics are not good. It is a red flag for potential new investors. And then the bashers get to pile on about the original BLA application, RTF from the FDA and on and on with the various blunders. If leronlimab does not get approved, NP will be in lawsuits for the next ten years from the very same folks who are touting his Sale of stock as heroic.
That is why it is so important that going forward ALL MATTERS ARE HANDLED IN A TOP NOTCH PROFESSIONAL MANNER...NO MORE EXCUSES.
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Well said!
With a slow volume CYDY day, plenty of time to contemplate various catalyst scenarios. Great post! This stated scenario would likely produce an exemplary outcome for shareholders! Get the widest possible distribution of buyers and drop the news (professionally orchestrated) and watch the SP skyrocket!
I now suspect all the NP gaffs(I will refrain from naming all of them) including recent PR fiasco, were part of NP’s perfect master plan to get big pharma to “sleep on” and underestimate Leronlimab... the “Granddaddy” of all drugs. Love it, great plan; boy a lot of us were fooled by the amateurish shenanigans.
Hopefully the accountants cooperate and expedite the audited financials for review by Nasdaq.
In the end, everything happens for a reason. Perhaps this was not the designed master plan, But delays and circumstances were foisted upon the company so that this plan Timing would be implemented. A little or lot of Devine intervention never hurt. GLTA
Go CYDY! (I am sure my cheer will help the SP Monday). Thanks for the shout out Grip.
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Hopefully CYDY has retained a top notch marketing firm that can put out a Press Release where the collective response in not “HUH”.
Perhaps NP has rethought his strategy of dripping out info and has selected the nuclear option of releasing all the good news at once so we are not piece-mealed to death by opposing forces.
Agreed, plus volume is way down as well suggesting a “ wait and see” market demeanor.
Unfortunately we can only go with the information proffered by CYDY: that the email didn’t make it or got lost. I doubt NP himself sent, it but as Captain of the Ship, he is responsible for how the ship is run. If there are nefarious forces at work in Mexico , it is not the company’s responsibility. if this was a simple matter of CYDY not following up, we needlessly lost several weeks of trials due to sloppy business practices. I don’t think It is unreasonable for shareholders to expect accountability on this important matter that could have saved untold lives and put the company weeks ahead of where we currently are on world wide approvals. Tomorrow is another day...perhaps some good news on trials in USA. I have a sizable stake and am responsible for a number of new shareholders. Sorry if any readers are offended, I expect rudimentary functions like emailing, and confirming receipt of same on matters of major importance, to be performed at high levels of proficiency.GLTA
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Agreed Rockleo! Give me never quit over smartest guy in the room every time! Just looking for everyone at CYDY to step up their game as we get closer to, at least, the first finish line. The good news is this is not a binary situation with all hopes on COVID. Many other arrows in the quiver! Also please keep the medical perspective coming. It is difficult today to identify trustworthy outlets of information.
Not calling for NP’s head. It would be crazy to replace him now. If CYDY shareholders are being honest to themselves, we can certainly agree that there is room for across the board improvements in execution. I know they are time constrained but management needs to do an immediate self assessment and improve on the weaknesses in the organization and take immediate decisive action to improve where they can... THE STAKES ARE TOO HIGH FOR ANY MORE FUMBLES. I have no doubt everyone in the company is working tirelessly.
“work smart...not hard”
God Bless America, front line responders, shareholders, FDA and CYDY Executives and BOD.
Fair enough Rock. I appreciate your comments and work on the front lines. I guess it appears I am judging NP. I like his passion and understand he is a gunslinger type...but there is always a faster gun. You as a doc, do not get to make some of the mistakes he makes in your profession, do you? You are held to a precise high standard. I hold myself to that standard in what I do and hold people who get seven figures and possibly 9 figures to the same standard.
I have read a lot of comments here and just try to infuse some things I have learned from over 40 years of running companies and investment partnerships. Some will think I am full of crap, others may get a nugget of info that provokes a thought. If my experience helps one person make a better decision, I am good with that. If not, I just got to blow off some steam and make some friends or adversaries.
I have found 90 percent of people agree on 90% of things. The remaining 10% is personal feelings. This is were disagreement and disharmony thrives. I try to deal with facts as I see them. GLTA and please stay safe and post when you can.
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Understood. I am a big fan of controlling ALL of the controllables. Really no excuses for any other action, especially at this level. Because of our small size and lack of resources we cannot give away the “gimmes”. There is absolutely no margin for error given the stakes and impact to big Pharma, IF Dr. BP is right, Leronlimab will be very disruptive to some very large income streamers to the betterment of CYDY shareholders.
CyDY shareholders should know it is in everybody’s best interest to make a fair assessment of management strengths and weaknesses. How else can you evaluate the relative risk you are taking. Most of us including me do not know squat about running a public company.
It is a fun exercise to debate things or share info on this board, but we sure as s%#t do not influence anything.
Hope, I appreciate the TA and objective comments much more than the previous snake oil stuff.
CYDY has unlimited potential, I THINK, but I do not know for sure and until we do...everything is open to at least discussion if not debate.
So NP got us here. Right now at 2:34 on 7/23/202 where exactly is here? And if we get no further than here, right now, is everybody good with that?
If this is it... Leron gets no further, will shareholders be saying... Nice job, don’t worry, your as pretty as the other girl? Or oh well we will get em next time, Or the sun was in your eyes.? Doubt it and many of these supporters will be lining up to With C/A lawsuits saying they were mis led by all this transparency we received.
But... at 6:01AM tomorrow Leronlimab could be touted as the savior of society. Timing is everything.
GLTA
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I should not have taken that caffeine induced work outshake today
No. NP told us the problem.
CYDY emailed info to the Mexican Government.
CYDY did not check if it was received.
The info was not received.
CYDY recently found this out and are trying to get the lawyers together to make some progress.
No further update given.
Lesson. Follow up to make sure people receive important messages, which is why I comment on these silly mistakes.
cYDY “ you’re not left guessing “. Please re-read this board over the last few days and months ( years ). There are hundreds and hundreds ( maybe thousands) of messages-trying to decipher what NP has said, particularly with respect to timing of events. We are always guessing what was said and this stuff is even recorded. Less said the better and when it is said say it with precision. Better yet don’t say a word...just DELIVER! Shock and Awe no warning ...BOOM... Leronlimab saves lives.. no argument!
Not bashing but this is a fact. Wish him and us success, but let’s at least have an honest assessment of his skills. We will never know, but would HIV have been approved with Tony C running the company? Than COVID would be a slam dunk because later focus got approval. Let the arguments begin!!!!
The stock is in the $5’s, because we still have not “proven” anything and we are traded OTC.
The safety data was great If you can understand the stats, but if you have to explain the punchline...the joke sucked!
We flubbed the BLA ...twice.
We flubbed communication with Mexico
We missed numerous deadline throughout our history
There are lawsuits from former insiders.
We just diluted 15%
I was told by someone who buys cos. Like this, before COVID, that the HIV approval would be worth $5;to $6 per share which could grow with proper sales execution. We still don’t have COVID! We want to. We think we do. But we can not yet prove it.
According to Dr. Patterson there are forces at work, like he has never seen, working to suppress Leronlimab.
Pehabs we should stop dripping out information, wait until we have ALL PROOF OF STUDIES BEYOND ANY DOUBT and then drop the nuclear bomb of of irrefutable data on the public and FDA THAT LERONLIMAB SAVES LIVES.
Not trying to bash, but realistically the above are things have to be mitigated In the collective minds of investors and only earth shattering news delivered in a cannon shot of PR will accomplish that goal, given the forces at work....drip,drip drip will not work at this point. GLTA
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Many thanks To the several CYDY posters who have summarized today’s special shareholders meeting.
It is interesting to note the continued confusion over timelines of the various catalysts. This is in part because some of the events/reported news is not in the control of CYDY Managment. We have third party partners doing analysis ( trials), agreements with foreign country officials (Mexico), and proposed meetings on several fronts with the FDA.
NP has a style of throwing out a static piece of information like “ X will be done next week” then he retraces and says “ X will be done in the next week to 10 days or next week or two”. This is not to bash him but this is his style, which unfortunately lacks precision and therefore creates ambiguity for an anxious bunch of shareholders looking for life saving answers and big monetary rewards.
Good call today, NP was clearly hyped up. Good, perhaps passion can overcome some or his inexperience operating at this new level.
It will be interesting to see if M2M results will move the SP or if it will take S2C and or uplist to NASDAQ. Clearly there are forces downplaying leronlimab and it will retake performance coupled with persistence to achieve market acceptance of the product in the medical community and with investors as a whole.
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Regarding Mexico trials, CYDY sent information to government rep. He did not receive the email, so there was no movement in Mexico towards the trial. They have been in communication since uncovering this glitch and are trying to get the legal aspects in order ( per NP in one of the latest calls or interviews but no info today.
Great summary and accurate.
Yes. Mgt has done some really good things And hope for good info tomorrow, but based on timeline given Saturday night that may be optimistic. Dawson M made some good points on the PR which may have science and lawyer requirements for this type of info to be distributed at this early stage.GLTA
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Well played and good post. You get the last word..oops. Lol. Have a great night
You are correct and make my point for me. Therefore we cannot afford to make silly unforced errors, like mismanaging a simple PR that you and me could put together and not checking whether the country of Mexico received an Email from CYDY. Not going any further after this last point...I do not know your employer or if you own your business. If you were the boss Or even an employee, and your company depended on successful execution would this type of execution matter to you? Would you keep your job based on this type of performance?I am not the type of person that accepts “give it a rest mentality”...all in, best effort,100 percent of the time. “Go big or go home”. Hey, all these posts don’t mean a thing...we are all blowing off steam in our own ways. And... if NP is reading this board, we really do have problems!
agreed Saltz.! Everything counts at this level and BOD and NP need to bring their “A” game. It has been acknowledged that big pharma does not want CYDY to succeed And the company does not need to help them by providing ammunition to discredit management. The little things matter and the PR matter was not a little thing. Remember the old line “ Fake it til you make it”? That means play the role where you want to be not where you are now. We want to be a big Nasdaq listed bio tech...is this how Amgen or Gilead rolls things out?
Is it 20 % due to the news or 5 % for the blundered PR and 15 % for the 100 m new share to be authorized tomorrow?
It seems even the statistics folks cannot agree on the numbers, but there is no doubt the PR revealed good news.
I am neutral on who runs the company, but the leader or spokesperson ( and they do not have to be the same person) has to be able to deliver a clear and concise message. I am an expert witness in my field and have to explain things to people whose only qualifications are that they obtained a driver’s license. The PR should have been a headline with several strong bullet points on the takeaway that is important to the readers ( shareholders and potential shareholders) and the statistics could follow in the body of the release, all while clearly touting the safety of Leronlimab. None of this occurred.
And while I am ranting: how the @#@@@ does our company not follow up with a foreign government agency by phone to SEE IF THE EMAIL WAS RECEIVED! Talk about lack of execution...that is business 101.
We still have no efficacy data, no approvals and leadership that is not firing on all cylinders ( and 15% dilution tomorrow). These are all catalysts, unfortunately adverse ones. Long and hopeful that the science overcomes the self inflicted wounds. Time to execute or get squashed by BP.
If you are prepared for the worst outcome everything takes care of itself. GLTA
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Tomorrow is a “Special Shareholders Meeting” to approve 100m additional shares. Do not believe anything else is on the agenda or that there will be Q&A.
Any board comments on the impact of that meeting or if the market has already weighed the additional shares and applied a discount?
By the way, the shares will not be priced now. They will/may be offered if needed to generate cash or attract new talent, at a later date at a price TBD.
Agreed on need for public relations help now! I’ll play:
“ LERONLIMAB SHOWS NO DRUG RELATED SAES IN RECENTLY COMPLETED PHASE 2 CLINICAL TRIALS!”
Regarding CYDY morning opening I bet a lot of us were a bit surprised. Wild swings on what I thought would be a decided upward trend. I received the following quote in an email this AM:
“The greatest obstacle to discovering the shape of the earth, the continents, and the oceans was not ignorance, but the illusion of knowledge “ - Daniel J. Boorstin
A lot to unpack here, but just a reminder about making good decisions on well sourced info. A lot of posters provide some great DD which is greatly appreciated to those of us with no medical background.
Wow. Fellow CYDY shareholders: “ May you live in interesting times. ” -Sir Austin Chamberlain
Well we certainly have those...a worldwide pandemic with ownership interest in a company that may provide a solution to the economic calamity we are facing. Without a solution small and even large business are faced with closing their doors within 30 days due to the stimulus running out. Hope we have the goods!
Convergence of a number of things for CYDY: announcement of M2M trial results; will it be enough for FDA approval and/or move the SP past prior highs? I have seen no discussion about market reaction to pending 15% dilution due to authorization of 100m new shares on July 22. My theory is that this was already baked in to SP at the time of announcement, but we will see. Outstanding trial results and it likely does not matter. Tepid results and it may. Something for all to consider. Then we have the S2C results pending and meetings with FDA for HIV.
Been through several IPO’s as an angel investor. That was lots of fun, but tempered as shares were restricted and could not sell for 12 months. Don’t have that problem now. My dad used to say: ”Plan your work and work your Plan“. A really appropriate saying for all investors facing such diverse catalysts. Having a plan is key, but having discipline to work that plan is paramount. GLTA! Hope there are a bunch of newly minted millionaires by EOW and hope you find it in your hearts to give some of it away..it ALWAYS COMES BACK. The world needs a miracle; is Leronlimab it?
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Dead on Saltz from what I have been personally told about NP’s style. The concern, not so much for COVID, but for HIV and other indications is his lack of experience in manufacturing , sales and distribution of the product. It is one thing to have a great product it is another thing for it to be adopted by the market. Hopefully COVID provides the $ and time for NP to understand the pharma industry.
As an FYI to all: Some folks are posting about never selling a share and keeping it for 10 years. Do yourself a favor and read “The Future is Faster Than You Think.”. The convergence of science, money and computing is allowing hyper speed changes in all industries. Even if leronlimab knocks it out of the park next week, the week after, there could be something discovered that is better. Not giving investment advice...
Continued thanks for all the Posters providing useful info. For the others thanks for the laughs.
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Appreciate that Bluefish. Watch a lot and try not to weigh in unless I have something to contribute. Likewise enjoy your posts.
Regarding news of successful CYDY trial results: the world will find out very quickly. With social Media, even the most insignificant item by any remotely known celebrity is National News. So chill! If the trials are as successful as we believe All The Right People Will Know About It. NP already in talks with BP and Media awaiting results. Even though WE all think there is something to talk about, to outsiders, there is literally nothing to talk about unless/until we at least have great trial results, let alone FDA approval. This ain’t little league...you don’t get a trophy for showing up.
Do not dispute any props for NP having vision and tenacity. Many company’s founders or visionary force have been replaced at the execution level with specialized talent in operations and sales. Not calling for his head either. Just proffered a question. I think NP gets a C on communication skills. He appears to be a good guy. It’s a fair business question to assess if NP is the guy that can execute the business plan. In fact on one of the earlier CC’s regarding uplisting he noted that the exchange required a business plan and that CYCY would need to do one. That IMO is a cause for concern that a business plan was not in place at that late date 4 to 6 weeks ago. I have personally witnessed and invested in companies with great products that could not execute in successfully bring a product to market. I hope CYDY is not one of those companies....and school is still out. We still do not have an approved product and there is still a lot of risk here with a huge upside. The world will be In a better place if CYDY is successful with the hopeful wonder drug!
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From what NP said in the CC he expects results end of next week which would be after special shareholders meeting. Hope it is sooner, but things have mostly happened After timelines he has established; not before. Perhaps he learning from his mistakes and it will happen sooner.
With regard to NP stock sale, I am not sure he said his profits went back into the company as some type of loan, which has been discussed. Certainly the warrant purchase price did, but things got a little muddled when the discussion went further. My understanding is he kept the profits. This can be spun and or explained a number of ways and everyone has to evaluate that for themselves. Hopefully in a few weeks none of that will matter. I will say that some CEO types that I have discussed this with did not like the optics. NP has his own approach And I do not think he is dishonest...just inexperienced on this platform. Some have opined that we would not be here without him...very possible. Might we have already had HIV approval with a more Pharma experienced CEO ?possibly... but we will never know. Last CC was good, but many times his manner provides ambiguity. GLTA
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Believe the July 22 CYDY shareholders meeting is a “special” one with the exclusive purpose of authorizing new shares to 800m. Do not think anything else is on the docket.
Thank you!
Sooooo. Delay by FDA could result in mono therapy approval that was going to take several years to achieve?
If that is correct, talk about burying the lead! I am glad this was brought up by others because I had come to the same conclusion, but thought that could not be correct. Can the medical folks weigh in on this?
As of last data analysis no HIV patients on which data was available and analyzed were reported, on call, to have Covid.
Just another of many in unnecessary examples of NP creating ambiguity when he speaks.It would be Better that we not be informed than either be misinformed or given “hopeful” deadlines That do not happen. Credibility would be better served with announcements that affirm actual events. Just let us know when something actually happens. Obviously NP/CYDY cannot control the actions of others... so manage expectations instead of giving false hope. Another mis calculation. No way NP does not immediately disclose a PFUDA date or any other salient piece of info as soon as possible. With all the missed deadlines how much heat would be on if something actually happened and it was not announced? C’mon folks!