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$47,000 in advertising is a joke, and will do little. Loss of $343,000 speaks for itself. Salaries will not go down, administrative will not go down, advertising should not go down, Salaries and commissions will not go down. They buy Clotamin from a 3rd party vitamin manufacturer so cost wont' go down. They don't have the raw materials or equipment required to make and package Clotamin, so there was no big overhead they can reduce. The $480k in sales are first time sales to stores, reorders will be down from the initial $480k, and may not be reordered at all, and could be deleted from some or all stores. The only way to increase sales is to increase advertising...they don't have cash for it, and even then they would have to increase advertising significantly...which they aren't going to do.
As more consumers see on a shelf that there are other multivitamins without Vitamin K, that provide the same for less...consumers will be buying those brands.
They are a one trick pony that has run the course, and the owners and secret offshore investors have made their millions and are now off onto other things....but in a small way are attempting to give the appearance of doing something to keepthe SEC off their backs,and appear like good guys,until they decide to throw in the towel.
Interesting how there was no problem to find secret investors to buy millions of shares for less than a penny, but can't find investors to take Clotamin to the next level,and to increase advertising.
IMO there was never the intention of taking Clotamin nationally, there was only the intention of giving the impression that it was going to be big, so private investors could reap millions.
A company that was pumped up to being worth $800 million, company shares they could have sold for millions and put into the company, can only afford $47k for advertising, is a joke, and not a company that will be around for long, unless they find another me too product to flog and find more suckers.
FINRA WARNS of VITAMIN STOCK SCAMS. In a recent new releaseby FINRA they warn of nutraceutical stock scams. They don't mention names, but do refer to a vitamin company that purported to "distribute specialty drugs and over the counter multivitamins while only a few months earlier was a natural resource exploration and production company......" Geeeeee...this sounds like Sunpeaks.
Ad revenue is down for a reason...it isn't good value for a lot of advertisers. And just because there lots of users, doesn't mean they are even reading an ad. I rarely read any ads on FB or most sites...I focus on what I want to do, and get off. Ads on mobile aren't going to fly. A person on the go on mobile, doesn't want to look at ads. If I have to wait for an ad or read an ad when I'm on mobile..I won't be using mobile as much. If there are more ads getting in my way at home on FB, I won't go on as often. A lot of friends and associates will be doing the same thing. So there are more that feel the same way. Users will go down with more advertising. FB is a nice little business with abour $400 million profit in the last quarter reported, and it should have stayed that way. IMO Zuckerburg knows it has reached a plateau then went about going public to sell off shares, along with employee and private investor shares. He is on record in filings that he went public to make his employees and investors richer...that is what he has done.
The Nasdaq problems are just a small part of the problem..the real problem is the greed of Zuckerburg to set an unrealistic price of $38....he sold 30 million of his shares at $38. Zuckerburg doesn't really care about anyone else other than himself and his employees/private investors. If he truly wanted users and the public to share in FB success, a much lower starting share price could have been done.
It simple...... trading at 74 p/e while Apple 14 p/e with a lot more profit and more potential to increase profit. $31 is even way too high.
New users will be hard to come by, and to maintain current ones and their frequency of going online will be hard. It's a company that has maxed it's potential and to increase ads will end up losing more users. As well, more apps appear on Apple, Blackberry, and Android, which takes away more users of apps and games on FB. How is FB going to increase ad revenue? How will they get a lot of ad revenue from instagram? What else will they be buying...they have ot buy something that can bring in a lot of ad revenue.
It should go lower, it will go lower...it's worth no more than .02 on a product that you can have a contract manufacturer make for you, name it, package it, and then sell it. They don't have a patent, it's a simple vitamin/supplement product with lots of competition and lots more to come. Sales are low, marketing is scattered, minimal, and not focused well, at all IMO. I't a pump and dump that's gone better than they thought it would. Read up on the players in columns by David Baines in the Canadian newspaper, Vancouver Sun...google it.
Zuckerburg doesn't care about you. He is on record in filings that the purpose of going public was to reward employees and already investors. He's way overpriced Facebook, employees and investors have been cashing out....while the public loses and will continue to lose, because profit is low and it trades way too high. He doesn't care about the public. I am believing the movie Social Network, is closer to real life than we have thought....
Apple trades at 14 p/e and Facebook 74 p/e....Apple's last quarter had $46 billion in revenue and $13 billion profit. Facebook's revenue dropped to $1 billion and expenses up to $677 million with profit roughly $335 million.
Way overpriced!!!!
It's not even worth .01
Everyone has been had.
It's a me too product you could have someone make for you tomorrow. They aren't spending any money to promote it, other than $30,000 her and there. It's the worst focused and worst marketed product I have ever seen with all the money the company should have.
It's so wrong, that there is only one conclusion...it's been a scam since day 1 and continues to be. They've sold their shares for $$$ millions and shorts have made their killing...time tomove on to another killing field.
Eveyone's been had, but some have had good profits.
It's a real product that's a scam. Decide to have a product made for you that anyone can make, has no patents, nothing proprietary about it,has lots of competition that is also cheaper for consumers to buy, have secret inside offshore investors, pay countless stock promoters to pump it, have people involved that have a checkered past with regulatory bodies, etc., and pump and dumps (read David Baines columns in the Vancouver Sun)....then spend $30,000 in a few places to give the appearance that you are trying to do something, to keep the SEC off your back and to keep the public thinking you are serious. Sell your shares for $$$$$ millions to unsuspecting public investors who have bought into the false vision and false potentional....then let it drop to what it's really worth (it hasn't got there yet).
If this whole thing isn't a scam, I would be shocked. Just because you have a mediocre me too product, doesn't meant it's not a scam, and the intention wasn't to scam.
Any real company would be marketing it properly with the $$$ the company should have in it's bank.
The PR is a joke!!! A few signs on a college football field, a bit of space on their website. Add that to a $32,000 promotion and a two others, scattered. A lot was spent on paid promotions but minimal at best for the product. If it was on the up and up, the company would have loads of $$$ to promote the product properly, nationally. Strike while the iron is hot only applies to insiders selling their shares, not the product. IMO they are doing the bare minimum just so they can look like they are doing something in the eyse of the SEC.
Why would an up and up company, who should have loads of money raised from selling shares, in the bnak, pick the odd market to promote Clotamin the bare minimum, when they should be doing a national advertising and promotion program or even a regional one, such as the north east, for example. IMO the answer is, they don't have any intention of doing it. They don't have any intention of going big with Clotamin. There have already been great multivitamins on the market without Vitamin K, and at less a price. They have wasted so much time on a couple of small fragmented markets and put out very little $$$. Within a short time, there will be even more multivitamins without Vitamin K. Are they worried, no. They've sold their shares as have the hidden offshore shareholders, they've made their cash and continue to pay themselves as well. Do they really care if Clotamin makes it nationally or successful, no IMO. They don't have any intentions of spending what it takes to promote Clotamin properly or in any meaningful way, that would have Sunpeaks worth even .02. Sad as it may be....the reality is, it's a me too product, there's lot of competition and will shortly be more, and they aren't willing to spend anything to promote and advertise it in any meaningful way
Income is minimal. A bit of sales doesn't automatically equate to a bright future. I know Vitamin costs, I know what is costs to buy a few radio commercials, I know how much listing fees are with drug stores, I know how much bottles, labelling, packaging (which they aren't doing, someone else is doing it) is, I know what it costs for POS displays,and we allknow they are making sure on top of the $$$$ the insiders have made, they are paying themselves good size management/consulting fees, etc. They don't even have a brand to expand on, to add other me too products..all they have is Clotamin and you can't put PMS, etc., supplements under the Clotamin name. If this was more than a one trick pony, they would have chosen a brand name, they could have added more products to. Their PR's are lame....a $32,000 radio promotion to a small sponsorsship to a 2nd rate sports team, etc....it is wayyyyyyyy too small and not focused, for all the hype they have been giving and all the money the company should have had by selling shares. What legitimate company puts out a release that they are attending a trade show....tens of thousands of companys are attending trade shows each week, so what. Then there are the people behind Sunpeaks....read David Baine's columns in the Canadian newspaper the Vancouver Sun. They have a checkered past with pump and dumps...history speaks miles.
It's going nowhere...it's had it's run. People are finding out the reality....that it's a me too product anyone can make and sell, and there's already lots of them out there without Vitamin K, and there will be more. My point is what you are concerned with, the price, and the price is going down further. The gig is up.
Lots of multivitamins without Vitamin K, on the market. Clotamin is not unique, there are no patents, anyone can make a multivitamin like Clotamin without Vitamin K....and there are going to be more. And what's the deal with the vitamins/minerals at 100% RDA and more. We get a lot of those from what we eat daily. A lot is simply being wasted, while a few can build up and cause side effects. We have been had. It's a me too product. The insiders have made sooooo much off of this. It's a one trick pony. They've made so much money, if they were on the up and up, there would be a lot of money going into a national advertising/marketing program, but it's not.
It's not even worth .02 IMO. At .02 it would make it worth over $8 million. Their sales are minimal and there are expenses.
There's no profit...are you joking. Sales are minimal, they are paying themselves manaagement fees, etc., they have expenditures IMO far more than any sales. The marketing plan is scattered and unprodessional and not well targeted IMO. They have spent veryyyyyyy little in advertising, other than paid promoters,my guess is they are spending just enough to make it look like they are doing something, to cover themselves from the SEC. There's no law for being stupid and unprofessional.
It seems Sunpeaks has the proprietary rights to sell Clotamin, from Healthcare Distributor Specialists (basically the same people as Sunpeaks anyway). But Clotamin is a mutlivitamin that you could have made for yourself, from a contract manufacturer (which is likely where HDS gets it) of which there are over a 1000 to choose from who would do it for you. You could put it in a bottle, name it, and sell it. There's nothing proprietary about the Clotamin multivitamin that prevents you or anyone else from doing exactly what they are doing. The Clotamin trademark I believe is owned by Healthcare Distributors Specialists, at least that is how I remember it. Clotamin was first sold in February 2008. Sales have been minimal. Google Sunpeaks and Clotamin and the articles that have been written about them, in the newspaper from Vancouver, Vancouver Sun.
Why isn't Clotamin launched nationwide? If they are on the up and up....a lotttttttttt of money has gone into the company from sales of shares. There is so much money, it would be sooooooo easy to produce a commercial, book airtime on TV, and have all major drug store chains take it in all of their stores.....but that hasn't happened. They are picking a small market in Oregon/Washington...of 97 stores. Then they scatter to another state and do a similar deal there. Then across to the eastern side with a radio station and few more retailers. If, and if, 97 stores sold 1 bottle of Clotamin a day, perhaps Sunpeaks makes $4 of $5 off of each bottle (I'm just guessing) after paying promoters, sales agents, distributors, a $32,000 fee to the sports team in Oregon, point of sales displays...and of course management/consulting salaries. 97 stores at $4 per bottle, if they are lucky, times 30 days is $11,640. As well, after 5 months point of sale promotions are no longer there. Why wouldn't Sunpeaks if they were on the up and up....and with all the $$$$$$$$ they should have from selling company shares (if that is what has happened), simply make a good commercial, make a comittment to national TV air time or even regional, along with point of sales displays....with such a comittment, all the major chains would take Clotamin in all their stores.That would be the normal thing to do, if you are on the up and up and have lots of money. IMO management is picking small little markets, investing a little (because they want to keep as much as they can for themselves), here and there, to keep investors alive and buying. On top of this all major drug stores, are able to return all products they don't sell. This is normal practice, unless Sunpeaks has it written into any contract or agreement, that unsold products can't be returned. Being able to return unsold product is the major reason why drug store chains, etc., take a chance on so many new products. Also, don't forget that most drug store chains have a substantial listing fees, which can be pretty big. Sunpeaks may get into 200 stores, but so what, it means nothing, unless there are future repeat sales. For a company that gives the appearance they are on the up and up, they aren't behaving like one IMO, especially one that should have been selling company shares and should have a lottttttttt of $$$ in the company coffers. They are doing so little, but doing something...so if it goes down, they can cover themselves by saying, we tried. This company is on paper worth about $140 million at the moment....on 1 product that anyone can make and sell, and with scattered and not very focused IMO marketing, with a lot of upfront costs, management fees/consulting, with hidden offshore insiders, no notice that they will be bringing out more products (which is the normal thing to do if you are serious about your business) insiders that have had pump and dump scams and other issues, etc. Insiders are laughing and have already made more than they dreamed of on this stock play....as have a lot of day traders, for example. One press release said they are going to be at a trade show....if you have to go so low that going to a trade show is news, it sounds like they are just trying to keep up the impression they are trying to do something, so they don't lose face. What legitimate public company puts out a press relase they are going to be attending a trade show, virtually none. If Clotamin does great, great..I just don't see it from everything I have seen, and the insight into the people behind it, that was reported in the Vancouver Sun. Numerous persons have also asked the company when Clotamin will be available in Canada...they get NO respones. Why? Because Canada has a system that would require Clotamin to have a NPN (natural product number) which they have to apply for, pay money for, show studies that back up their claims (interestingly Clotamin website offers NO studies, which most companys would do or have). IMO Sunpeaks isn't serious about the future, other themselves, so may have no interest in wasting money in Canada to get approved.
This is a one trick pony IMO. Look at their label, they are not promoting their company, nor their brand name, which EVERY vitamin/supplement does, because they have or will have more products under the same brand. They are promoting the name of the product only on their packaging, Clotamin. They are promoting just Clotamin in my mind because that is all they have and had/have no serious intention of adding products to Clotamin, otherwise you would be promoting your company brand, such as NOW, or CVS, etc., on the bottle.
The lawsuit allegations I find amusing. Sunpeaks and the insiders, including the hidden offshore insiders, had no problem reaping $$$$$ from their shares as and endless array of paid promoters hyped a multivitamin that has no patents, and anyone can have it made for them, but now they have made their $$$ they are trying to look righteous. If they want to seriously do the right thing, and stand up for their product, give back some of the huge $$$ they've made as a result of any false pumping by promoters. I find it interesting that Sunpeaks and HDS leads investors to believe that Clotamin is so unique that it is worth .30 let alone .05.
This product has been out since the beginning of 2008. It may have been one of the first multivitamins without Vitamin K when they had a company put it together for them, but many have such a multivitamin now, and more will come. There is nothing proprietary about Clotamin (except for the tradmark) that other companys can't do and aren't doing.
Along comes the people behind Sunpeaks, as their operation is a bust and seems as the Vancouver Sun has written, that it was a pump and dump. They see a multivitamin with a story to tell. It maybe not be proprietary nor are there any patents...but they see they could possibly make some money. They promote it with paid promoters, etc., and whammo...what a surprise. IMO they were thinking they could 'scam' a bit of money from investors, but has no idea it would take off this insanely. Hence it will bottom out very fast, just as the Vancouver Sun inferred when it was close to $2.
All they have done is put in the multivitamin what others have in theirs. The label says they have put in 100% of the RDA (recommended daily allowance), which is a guideline as to what we need to take in daily in our foods, etc. All the ingredients in Clotamin at 100% RDA is a joke....we are all eating food every day, even junk food, and don't need 100% of everything in Clotamin...it's a joke, and imo is meant to suck naive people into thinking they need 100% RDA of everything in Clotamin. They might tell you that everything in there if it'stoo much, is flushed out of your system, it's false. As well, we can get too much of something. So much of what we eat is already fortified with Niacin, for example, and too much can cause health problems.
If people buy into the false need for 100% RDA of everything in Clotamin, great...it means sales.
It's NOT worth even .05, it's a joke imo. At .05, 420 million shares are worth $21 million...on a me too product (there's lots of multivitamins without Vitamin K and will be more, including multilevel companys). There's no patent, any of you can go to a contract manufacturer (of which there are a thousand to choose from) and tell them to put in your product exactly what Clotamin has in it.
SYNW's a loser, going nowhere, and everyone, including all the employees that were fired almost 2 years ago (which investors were not told of until many months later), have been used. IMO another Louis Dion sham. Don't hang on for any SYNW financial to save you, it will show it's over and a lot of debt. How can they even be a corporate sponsor for Louis Dion's IVL...ivegas..they have no money and haven't even started doing any work for it..but wait, IMO Louis Dion put SYNW up on the ivegas website as a sponsor for appearance only, as are the international links to brand names on the same website. Ivegas also...no financial information for over 1 year. Again, IMO, just like SYNW, shares are sold with monies going to Louis Dion and his inside team, period.
Louis Dion and ivegas...at it again. SYNW is listed as an associate of ivegas.com on their website, and in SYNW filings, they state they have links to ivegas and doing work for them...how can that be...SYNW has no income, etc. IMO it's linked to ivegas just for shuffling shares around and money raised by selling ivegas shares or by scamming inverstors. In 1 year ivegas has not listed one piece of financial information, the principal Louis Dion, hides, etc., etc. SYNW is going nowhere and never will, it was created IMO just for Louis Dion and his pals to shuffle money around, to themselves....and simply don't care about anyone else other than their inner circle. It also doesn't say much for Ania Morton and Duke Stevenson..the public people working for ivegas. They know their boss has a $10 million judgement against him, has ties with a wack of pump and dumps, etc., etc., etc..but they are still with ivegas and still are happy to have SYNW associated (if only on paper) with ivegas.yet they stay with ivegas. Kind of says what kind of people they are, too.
It DOESN'T look good...........a company that never gave out the draw prizes on April 1 it said it would; a company with a principal Louis Dion that has a long list of pump and dump companys/false pr releases/owes a creditor personally for over $10 million; a company that has not released one piece of financial information in over a year; a company whose head office is the same business office of their newly appointed head person; a company who has no draw date for their draw (it will neve be drawn); a company that deletes any inferences or questions regarding specifics from their website blog; a company who pretends they have a yacht by using graphics to place their name on a boat in Vancouver just for a shot in their facebook wall; a company who says they were making money at inception from gaming yet their ivy casino doesn't work on their website; a company who puts on their website international brands' websites as that of being associates (anyone can put up a link); a company whose principal previoulsy listed Virgin on a previous pump and dump yet the representative from Virgin said they knew nothing about Louis Dion or his company; a company whose principal deleted his wall references to ivegas on his facebook page after a reporter in Vancouver Canada linked him to ivegas in his columns; a company whose principal was sued by a lawyer for passing bad cheques for work the lawyer did on a previous pump and dump;...the list goes on. I suggest you google Louis Dion.
iVegas phoney prize draw never happened. Ivegas's draw for a diamond, trip, and money was for April 1st, never happened, and they ignore questions about it and delete any questions about it on their forum. It never happened and never will....they have now deleted any date for it to even happen.
Ivegas gaming doesn't even have a phone number for anyone to contact them, or an office in Vancouver where they all are, emails go unanswered...and the address they give in Malta is only a building address, no office number. They infer they are a Malta company, but ivegas gaming ltd doesn't even show up in a company search in Malta......seems a pump and dump, scam IMO.
Louis Dion at it again. Principal of iVegas as reported in the Vancouver Sun newspaper. The list of stocks that pumped and dumped with Louis Dion, is endless...a few include....Veridigm; Guyana Gold; Sync2 Networks (SYNW); World Bingo League; World Mobile Network...to mention a few.
IMO iVegas and it's ivy casino will end up with the rest...public shareholders with shares that lose their value, private investors will lose, but insiders will win.
Anyone with info on iVegas - IVY Casino - Louis Dion - or even an iVegas office (if there is one).
Best of luck to everyone but watch out.
Louis Dion, false pr's, nominees...all starting with Veridigm, then handed off to new nominee president under MMUH and more false pr's, etc. Nothing has changed since Louis Dion and Veridigm...false pr's, etc...since the onset. Birds of a feather flock together. Bad apples tend to all hang out together. MMUH even ended up paying for the costs and work done by a lawyer, under Louis Dion's instructions. Nice when you can rack up lawyer fees, bounce some cheques out of a personal account, then have MMUH and the new nominee president (whom has connections with Louis Dion) pay for it.
Louis Dion is still associated with this company....stay away from Louis Dion, don't believe a word he says. He only cares about himself..not one stock he has ever been involved in has made money other than for himself and selcet insiders and backers. SYNW fired all employees and didn't bother to tell investors until 6 months later, after they had done what they wanted for themselves. Look at the latest financial...zero revenue, just more expenses...these people are good at paying themselves. What happened to the Apple apps they said they were doing? What happened to the property management they said they were doing? What happened to everything they say they were doing or are doing....ZERO.....only thing they do is state deals that don't happen.
Forumla is NO Miracle....Resveratol, etc., are used by a lot of skincare companys already. They may have a patent on combinations/percentages for something, but it will not stop all the companys already using and combining resveratol, hylauronic acid, etc., in their skincare products. Will it reduce wrinkles, etc...probably will...but so do hundreds of other brands. Will MDAV's skincare work any better than all the top brands out there, no. Let's see studies comparing their formula with other top brands...not comparing it with a placebo or a product without any active ingredients added.
Mondavi has been 'taken' if he has been told this is a major breakthrough that works better than most products, and doesn't know any better.
$300 billion skincare market...talk about an exageration that is so misleading.
If it truly is a breakthrough and is so much better than all the top brands, they wouldn't need to be looking for money on pinkies. I agree, they couldn't sell it (because it is no miracle) to more than what they have, and now are looking for money to pay themselves, etc. A real company with such a breakthrough would not have to resort to the pinkies, nor to paid pinkie promoters.
Could sales increase, yes, but not even close to the hype that they are putting out and paying for. Is it a breakthrough that works better than top brands, no. Will sales increase and stock value shoot up....only by naive investors who don't know better. Does one really think that major brands around the world wih huge research budgets have missed the golden egg, no. Chemistry is chemistry.
Good luck to everyone. IMO it might go up for a bit, but it will come down just as fast...the big winners here IMO will be the usual, insiders and those who have created a management/consulting fee for themselves.
My guess is she's a nominee, and it's people behind her that are pulling the strings. Anyone who is on the up and up wants a shell for good reason...anyone who isn't, wants it to raise money for themselves...then move on....which could be good for a few short term investors if they get in and out before people behind such a stock, take what they can, then move on.
Shats is with a seedy strip club. She's all the officers of Star Garden Inc., as well as the registered agent. Strip club is 6630 Lankershim, Exto 6632. Strip club is called Star Garden. www.stargardenclub.com
Just go next door to 6632 and set up a mailbox, register a company in Nevada, name yourself all officer positions.
Registrant of stargardenclub.com is Hans Raith, biker type, been trying to become famous in movies but isn't.
IMO Shats is a nominee with the people behind her pulling the strings. The association with a seedy strip club and a biker type, along with the some history of previous owners of this shell, IMO it's a front to pump and dump, along with a possible venue to launder money. That's the way it looks to me at the moment.
IMO you will be caught in a reverse split, rendering your shares worth even less. Owners like to control, control shares. There are too many shares out there owned by people they don't care about, who also have bought them cheap. IMO if you can make some small change here now, before a reverse split...great. Birds of a feather flock together.
Haven't been on mmuh board for a month coz nothing IMO was going to happen, and as you can see, nothing has.
Simplying replying to your post. Not sure where you are getting this idea of not letting go, this is in your mind.
Exactly, they gave some initial investors, which likely includes themselves, companys they may own, and insiders, more mmuh shares so they can pocket more money.
What does the past actions/non-actions of Freeman, Taylor, Sasso with Veridigm, MMMUH, etc., have to do with now...simple. We are having to pay for what they have done. As well, how people conduct themselves in the past with pinks, is usually a good indication of how they will act in the future.
Points of fact.....
1) It was stated "on Gloucestor in England" further down in the post...which you neglected to mention. Above, it said "in Gloucestor", as "in" was typed mistakenly instead of "on", which I had already stated could have been said more clearly. Had it been an actual mistake all the way through, I would not have become so 'politically correct', that I would feel it is a hit against a whole country, as you have done.
2) PR's on Veridigm (which is still stated with mmuh on quotes), which are false, along with a PR stating there were false statements, in PR's, along with them stating there were a lot of employees in Ireland as well as Vancouver, are on record. I do not have to waste time to give you links, nor is it required on Ihub. PR's are on record, if you want to look. As well, Veridigm was already on pinks. The PR and change of financials only occured after the SEC got involved, and that it was becoming public knowledge that Louis Dion was in charge and acting for others. A PR's acknowledges that as well. The President, etc., were nominees only. Funnily, I don't see you demanding links to statements made, that pump mmuh.
3) Veridigm's office on Gloucester in England, is a virtual office only, as confirmed as well, by another poster. The players, are in Vancouver..as is Louis Dion who was in control of Veridigm and was also sued by the lawyer who filed against Veridigm, for bounced cheques that Louis Dion wrote, for setting up offhsore accounts, etc., and Verigidm....to which shareholders of mmuh have had to pay for. In fact, there is a lot that current shareholders remain responsible for, from MMUH and Veridigm.
4) Judge Leon's decision was also temporary until further things have been determined. The fact remains.....Leon allowed imports, the Appeals Court stayed that decision, until further determinations....effectively, reversing imports into the USA.
5) You have forgotten one key word in defining bashing......to be bashing, it must be "intentional" and an "attempt". The fact that someone merely states facts, or states them as they believe them to be true, does not make it bashing, nor that person a basher.
Louis Dion lies....how do you know he has sold his shares in SYNW and sold the company, and that it's now on Vancouver Island...which if true, I would guess Sydney or Saanich. Apparently, Louis Dion denies even knowing anything about the employees being fired. There's no problem paying management/administration fees to themselves...yet would not pay their employees, nor the auditor or the transfer agent....now there's nothing left.
You are confused Theo, I agree to that.
The lower court Judge Leon's decision was for a temporary injunction, preventing the FDA from temporarily stopping import of e-cigs.....the 3 judges of the Appeals Court stayed that injunction (albeit it temporarily as well until a final decision is made), reversing Judge Leon's decision, thereby allowing the FDA to temporarily stop the import of e-cigs. The Appeals Court disagreed with Leon's decision of a temporary injunction, thereby allowing the FDA to now temporarily ban imports.
If you want to talk about the reasonings/opinions behind the 3 Appeals Court's decision, and Judge Leon's reasoning/opinions for his decision...that's another matter.
With regard to 'bashing'...it's an "attempt" to devalue a stock by spreading false or exaggerated claim. The fact someone believes something do be true, and may be incorrect in their belief and facts, does not make that person a 'basher". There needs to be a deliberate and conscious "attempt" to devalue.
Of course there is some brand loyalty aomong those already using e-cigs, and some of those few have their brand they prefer. Who cares about them, I am not talking about them. You are looking at the current picture not the bigger picture. All e-cigs companys are predicting sales to go through the roof in 2010. Tzufuma's unaudited sales in their financials, for the first 8 months of the year were $2.6 million. They are predicting $100 million in 2010. If it was to occur, it will all come from new buyers, buyers who currently are not loyal to any brand of e-cig.
I am well aware there are online sales. Everyone has been talking about this whole thing being in every mass retailer. For that to occur, it will have to go into mainstream mass retailers. Someone even stated that Tzufuma's website and efforts will be focused on retail stores, and Parterson's latest PR is focusing on military stores. All these millions of new customers, if they become a reality, have no brand preference at the moment.
Where is the $18.6 million plus? Perhaps someone could enlighten me, as I am clearly not knowledgable in this area. I don't see where MMUH issued shares for debt, but as stated, shares were purchased for a minimum of $18.6 million at a minimum of $1 per share. I am sure there is a reasonable explanation.
Hmmm...I've never mentioned, phonecash or
total med.....you have.
Of course, $650,000 in liablities
for MMUH, from Veridigm, is part of the
current equation.
Of course, if someone is going to send a
post to me regarding that, then I will reply,
if I wish to do so.
You are right, I agree. You are doing DD, that is not bashing. A basher is someone who attempts to devalue a stock by spreading false or exaggerated claims. DD is also a way to hold a company and it's officers accountable, to shareholders and the public.
I agree with you...I replied to someone's post who stated that anything that went on with Veridigm does not fit into the current equation. I am pointing out to that person that MMUH does have liabilities from Veridigm.
Freeman is an officer of MMUH and was also an officer of Veridigm.