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VuBru@
In a reaction to your rather shocking story - i was yesterday writing you on the subject - a long input just before going to bed.
Forgot to make backup of writing - and everything suddenly hung' - and was lost. Gave up and vent to bed.
But combination of your story and the Amarin Vascepa story haunted med through the night - so i started early getting thoughts memorized.
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I dont know if you have seen it - but your shocking story is part of it - so 'old saying in my country' - "Nothing is so bad - that something useful may not come of it" - and I think that that applies here.
Best of luck with your continued recovery - and link with what 'I am talking about' below:
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=153303125
KevGee59@
So it is Tuesday - January 2020 - that the Sun starts Shinning on Amarin AMRN for share Owners.
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I Live across the world in Denmark - so i did not know about this Non Market day in the USA, which i should have - sorry for that.
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But now that i know - i actually think that our AMRN stock might benefit from the 'a bit longer' break after JPM Conference.
Very exiting to see what happens Tuesday 21 2020 with SP of Amarin Vascepa.
jasbg
NickHous@
I think you are absolutely right. Not knowing anything about options - i'm a boring 'Forever' Long in AMRN.
Maybe it's my age - but i rather like and is encouraged listening to John Thero at these events. There is no fancy smart moves to 'sell stocks' - just facts. And remember all facts are still 'Very - Very' positive - it's just that SP dont follow.
We will soon find out about truth to the talk of 'Max Pain' to Option holders - Friday. Hopefully most have bought back' reducing los if that happens.
But a rise is likely to happen on Monday 20. jan 2020 - if Baker Bros. (and others) decide to finally Unleash the AMRN stock.
Is it just me - or did i hear JT in the webcast say - that Amarin awaits a ruling i the ongoing trial 'End of Marts' ?
alwaysw@
In Yahoo forum a number of the most active posters have Options running out this friday (17 jan 20) - and if you gambled on SP being raised by a good trial outcome - it's no fun to watch SP going nowhere - waiting for the outcome of trial.
It can literally mean anything from making millions - to broke for some.
I think this is why tension is rising in AMRN forums right now.
relocm@
Ok of cause your right - the way you argue!
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What I ment was' - going after products that other companies invented in a courtroom - you 'dont have anything to lose' - 'you can only win'!
Only Amarin who used +25 years on this one product and an enormous amount of time and money can lose in my mind.
As i read Hikma - big part of their business is build on 'stealing' results of other companies work. All the Settlements!
The short version - it looks like 'a number of bloodhound lawyers' that has found a smart way to make money - with no risk.
Tx BB@ I read your answer that you prefer GIA ?
On Yahoo Forum (and suppose iHub as well) - a lot of people has hope for 'ending the trial' BEFORE friday. (a lot of Options run out) - Would you dare to guess on that ? :)
Suddenly understanding what AMRN is all about.
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The release the Reduce-It trial - 28 september 2018 - in 7 weeks made AMRN rise more than 700% from 3 to 23$.
That awoke Big Pharma – “What’s going on here”. And I wandered myself - ‘why the enormous interests from privat investors – in this ‘little’ stock – ‘Most debated stock on both iHub and Yahoo’.
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After the break-through (23$) – Big Money Tanks took over and controlled Share Price – which they still do right this moment. Just yesterday they likely made 10% - knowing top and bottom – on the 2 ramps in SP.
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This input is a combination of me using ‘far to many hours’ following this stock the last 16 months – and only late last night beginning to understand the whole story’. Why this ‘for now’ little stock – is making waves in Big Pharma offices – and en generating enormous interests among retail investors.
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What triggered things off were the input from: user VuBru yesterday – about his shocking heart attack. Searching YT – I fell upon a video that I the end explains – WHY Vascepa in the beginning of year 2020 is such a sensation.
In the short version – this revolutionary drug – can to a big extend REPAIR 70 years of failed nutrition policy in both the western world – and now also in China. And it can REPLACE – the statins products that really is a product of a completely failed Cholesterol policy. And these factors are the reasons for the big interest from ‘ordinary people’. Everybody knows someone who had a heart attack – or who has problems
with statins – or both.
Vascepa in not mentioned in the video – as the facts of the Omega3 ‘over the counter products’ – was not known at the time of the video. Its obvious that that it is exactly ‘effect of Vascepa’ that is vital when Dr. Bowden mentions Omega3.
And observe that this knowledge goes years back (video is from 2013). How many have heard af the Cholesterol swindle ‘that it actually is’. How many have heard of the 4 point cholesterol blod test?
I am sure that Amarin Staff knows all about the things mentioned here – which is why they used a fortune to ‘prove that ‘Vascepa Works’ (as JT puts it) – in the Reduce-It trial.
But Hikma make it look as if Vascepa is part of their pipeline - with market size in $ million.
Is that legal (even they put 'Active litigation' text) ?
Look at page 10 of PDF presentation:
https://www.hikma.com/media/2272/2019-interim-presentation-final.pdf
I have'nt been on iHub that long - so this video might have been posted here before - but then no harm done.
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But it is interesting to se this stranger CEO - exploit the Reduce-It trail - almost talking as he is/was a part of the trial - shortly after FDA approval ("It came early" - again playing it 'like he is part of the story')
And then conclude that it is 'Great News for the Omega3 business'. It is misleading theft in bright daylight :
Its not my article - so i am just guessing here.
But following Mellowmood's argument - ever keeping the SP down wears up the private investors and daytraders patience (and belief in the stock) - so the Tute's can takeover retail stocks at bargin price.
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Best example of that 'this is' a controlled/manipulated game' was volume the 16. dec 2019 (day after FDA approval). 60 mill. stocks vol. - and still the price fell.
I think this great input to iHub AMRN forum - is relevant once again - so with thanks to Mellowmood77 i copy it here again:
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Mellowmood77 Thursday, 01/09/20 12:14:42 AM
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Everyone needs to relax.
You guys have not been paying attention.
What is the purpose of hedge funds like Baker Bros?
To make MONEY for their clients.
Do you guys really think they are just sitting with close to a billion dollars worth of stock and not making any money on it for the past year?
Of course they are. They are selling tons of calls and puts. They have made a killing doing it. They will continue to do it until they know the stock will be bought out.
Ask yourself what has this stock done like clockwork for almost every options expiration week? CLOSED AT OR NEAR MAX PAIN! This stock is EASILY manipulated because of a large percentage of retail investors/day traders.
Guess what Jan 17 is? The mother of all option expiration dates. Guess what the max pain is? $17! I was actually expecting a drop in price as we approached JAN 17... Though I didn’t know they would be able to get this close to max pain.
I also expected a lot of FUD to be released to aid them in this endeavor as we get closer to Jan 17 (JPM, UNH, etc). And I was not disappointed.
Baker Bro’s did not sell out when the price was trading above $26. If they sensed imminent danger, don’t you think they would have?
This should give you relief, as Baker Bros obviously believe the price will be much higher than $26 in the future. If I saw a 13G filed that showed baker Brothers have sold 80% of their position, THEN I might get worried.
It’s a sad reality, but this is the game. Options must die. Bakers are playing a long chess game, not checkers. They don’t care if their stock is worth 30% less today than a couple weeks ago because they know where it will be in the months ahead.
This is the final shakeout in my opinion.
If it were me, and I was playing the “game,” I’d let the final shakeout be patent litigation. Maybe news of not settling will be enough. Finally scare the last of the weak hands out. Simultaneously approaching 90% institution ownership and wiping out Jan 17 options.
Bottom line is, JT is executing his plan. The stock price has nothing to do with him. It is pure manipulation. Stocks that get bought out, almost always get bought out when no one expects it. Expect the same here.
Expect a HUGE 2020. But if you can’t handle it, grab an index fund instead.
I did hear that this A. Feurstein Guy - have a problem with Vascepa - but i newer thought i could be this bad. This guy has serious problems :)
https://www.medtechy.com/message-boards/boards/companies/amarin/9188/does-adam-feuerstein-have-a-grudge-against-amarin
Retiredceo@
Cant say i disagree with you - at all :)
But i know most moderators in these boards like to - (understandable) - keep politics out - so better talk investment' not to get banned :)
rafun@
Did you get get offended by the references to Wikileaks ?
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Well you asked: I have owned a nummer of small business's i Denmark. Got educated in the military in electronics - worked for NCR (HQ Dayton, Ohio) as an engineer for 18 years.
Retired a couple of years ago. Been investing in stock market, ETF's etc for 16 years - using far to much time in forums like this :)
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And lastly - I run a political website which i better not refer to here.
jasbg
HDGabor@
Pfizer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pfizer
HDGabor@
Further on Wiki' (that you reacted on) had a look on Pfizer - that is often mentioned - talking BO of Amarin Vascepa.
Wonder if you know every information about the big company that is well presented there :)
HDGabor@
I just looked if there was a Wiki link:
Ok not much information - if that is what you mean :)
rosemb@
Out of Wiki i saw this' - rather impressive number of trials :)
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?term=vascepa&Search=Apply&recrs=b&recrs=a&recrs=f&recrs=d&age_v=&gndr=&type=&rslt=
rosemb@
Ok - you got me there' (maybe its all robots) and 10 employees to watch the robots not striking.
I did read somewhere that the company has about 500 employees i Irland - but surely not all at the factory :)
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Here is Wiki about the company:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amarin_Corporation
A lot of people on this board talk as if John Thero - CEO of Amarin is alone of deciding the future of Amarin.
This is not so.
There i obviously a Board of people that will be involved in every major decision regarding a company that has been working since 1993 to get to where they are today. There are 500 people employed at the factory - including a number of young scientists.
There are soon 800 sales people working to make Vascepa the succes is deserves in the USA alone.
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I have the greatest respect for JT - but in principle he could deside to retire tomorrow - and be replaced by a younger new CEO.
Point being' - important that JT is - he is not All of Amarin - and surely he has a Board' and a number of Qualified advisors involved in every big decision for the company.
Mr1919@ It wont go lower than 17$ which is the point 'people that know about these things' says is Max Pain (meaning where Option holders earns the most money on - Calls and Puts). Experation day is the 17. jan. 2020 (coming friday).
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So - as a number of experienced people in this type of game advice. The stock price is likely to move against 17$ - during 13. to 17. jan. 2020.
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That should be the time where 'hopefully' - all the Betting Games (that is just that'- BETS (as on BET365) with really no reference to Vascepa - more than if it was a football game.
There is the unknown about the Patent Trial - but no matter how that ends - our AMRN stock should start rising soon after the weekend 18 - 19 jan. 2020 :)
raistthemage@
Have to be honest - to me you’re an absolute disgrace - that ought to stay away for the bio-business - and probably stocks all together. Using your age as an argument?
JT is a fabulous CEO and leader who is big part of the impressive success of Amarin and Vascepa.
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To blame JT for the development AMRN stock price is not only stupid – it’s an insult to the whole of the Amarin staff – and the fantastic results they have achieved.
Sorry - I forgot to apologize for ignorance about Options.
Would it be possible for you to explain - to a 'normal brain' what you mean (how it works) - when you say that 30 mill shares - will be affected next week.
300 calls - what does that mean ? :)
What are they then/how will they affect the market for AMRN - Possible to say anything about that ?
As already 'given away' I am absolutely Lost - when it comes to Options and the countless numbers of Bets' and what have you these days - in the stock market.
To me all these new offers seems like a way the big Broker Floors to get into the Betting Market of a Backdoor.
I mean - you said 30 million 'shorted' AMRN stocks - want/need to 'Get Out' - next week - 13- to 17 january 2020.
That should spell even bigger 'down pressure' next week - yes ?
Jerry@ You'r absolutely Right - Short Selling 'is nothing New !
I personally would prefer a more 'fair and decent market' - which should be in everyone's interest. Hard to se how the parasite cynical brokers that steals money through 'deep fraudulent manipulation' contributes to society.
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But I know that is a hopeless naive way of looking at the world - who now also have +2500 Crypto Currencies. Not used to 'help the IRS' i should think :)
How do they 'do it' - the Money Hounds - that robs 'You an I' in the stock market every day of the year.
A relevant story for LONG's to know - about the stock market and manipulation.
https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/5-market-manipulation-tactics-and-how-avoid-them-2018-04-11
Hamoa@ Great work - that spares me the time of reading something i would not understand anyway !
And respect that you give your honest opinion of Amarins stand in the case. For now i trust your right :)
JT and Amarin cant control the development of this from day to day - even if they wanted to.
It has been up a 1000 times on Yahoo - by accident AMRN is the perfect stock for shorting - manipulating by cynical Pure Money Players - like Oppenheimer - Citi - Gs.
The company (again by accident) has the size' - that a nummer of these big Money Plauers (hedge-fonds - banks) can control. And on top of that there's the element of Big Pharma - wanting to keep the 'Vascepa Storm' - under kontrol for possible BO (competition in the cardiovascular market - 600 billin$ - estimated).
But - hear me out! Amarin and JT will come out on top - and everybody in the business knows it!
It just a matter of time (days - weeks - months) - when the rise to the top begins :)
onerm:
Thanks - I noticed trial been debated a lot here on ihub.
Lets hope for a quick (for Amarin 'good' settlement). I hear that a possible trial can take months. We dont need - any more of these unlocked doors:)
And i would add - that i think that JT is big part of where Amarin and Vascepa are today.
Has handled the FDA delay last year perfectly (even at a time where it really did hurt the company bad). I have 100% confidence in JT - going forward.
Hi - my first post here !
I see there is a lot of people here that knows 'if not everything' then Close' - to what Amarin and AMRN stock is about.
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I copied this input from Yahoo AMRN forum yesterday - to my 3 children (who are also AMRN investors):
Curious to hear if you people on iHub - agrees whit roberts comments :)
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robert3 hours ago
So I'm reading an article on Health Line about Triglycerides and this article claims that 25% of US adults have Tri's > then 200.
That is one of the biggest estimates I seen and while it might be too high it does give you an idea about the size of the opportunity that Vascepa has, 10's of millions of US adults will be covered under the new label. Do a google search on Triglycerides and Vascepa will be at the top.
The hit pieces will continue right up until option expiration on January 17th. There are tons of open interest calls representing 10's of millions of shares calls expiring on the 17th so there is going to be a huge push to get this stock below $20 and lower if possible. I'm sure you noticed how they took out the Jan $21 calls on Friday and they almost have to do the same for all the
calls expiring on the 17th. Be prepared for the whole shebang, they are going to throw the kitchen sink at this to keep it down.
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