Yea, I think if anyone here knew they were going to COMPLETELY flip the switch, everyone'd have gotten out. I'd have made an as$ton of money last year if I'd have got out in June or September. Should be ashamed of themselves for collectively letting this and MPhase drop 80 and 90%. Unbelievable.

Yea, I got out finally. AMAZING how much of a flip this company did in 6 months. Almost 2 months, really. They had a good thing going, but this is starting to look real funky. Even if this thing gets going somehow, someway, the incompetence of management was exposed and this will never trade at levels that it should because of it. I mean, both companies -- record revs every quarter and it goes lower. That's just not normal. Dilution and incompetence. 2 things we never saw and now, with all the BS they put everyone through, they're not taking questions? Lol.

They lost my trust. Insiders selling, more dilution incoming FOR SURE. Ain't losing my money.

I mean, I'm still "optimistic" here, to be honest. I completely understand why there's been negative sentiment here as of late -- especially for how we've been operating in 2020. It's been unacceptable.

That being said, this company still has:

1) A legitimate product that is GOOD, not sh*tty, and a professional sports license to boot. I can't imagine some scam shysters being able to pull off top-quality packaging along with top-notch taste.

2) Opened up a legitimate online store where they're legitimately shipping product from. Do I think anyone knows about it or that it's raking in money? No. But it is real.

3) Said they'd been approved to be put on Wal Mart's online store, which was truthful. Again, do I think more than 10 packages have even been sold on there? Maybe, maybe not -- but it is legitimate.

4) Real deals in place with medium to large retailers. Those places could flat out deny that they've ever even spoken to Verus, which they have not. Verus said that placement is now starting to commence again at Big 5 and Rally House. Do I think that will rake in the money? No, but it's a start.

5) If you Google maps Top Manufacturing in the Phillipines, it DOES show up. It's only got 1 review of 5 stars, but the review was done before Verus ever acquired them. Looks super small and I have no idea how they'd ever be able to meet supply of 10 million masks/month, but according to Google Maps, it does exist.

Point being, NO OTC stocks even get that far, or even come close to it. I think our management suuuuucks and that it will be extremely difficult to near impossible that we recover from this, but I DO think it is possible given the legitimacy of BLF and its potential.

As for Verus Cares, I don't know what to think. On May 1st, when Anshu was explaining his oh-so-awesome compensation package, it said that ZC was exclusively only making stuff for the Phillipines to meet their demand. Maybe that's why nothing has happened yet? Anshu/management knew that for the first couple of months nothing was going to go out but then we should be good once they meet local demand? Sounds dumb and unrealistic, I'm aware, but I don't know...I have no reason to believe that at the very least, the business Top Manufacturing exists...

That's what SHOULD drive price and people's sentiments, but it's completely understandable why people are leery right now given the recent dilution, silence, and lack of news.

Going to be tough to get shareholder confidence back unless a boat load of good news is incoming, along with getting these frickin' notes under control.

Yup.

That's what I was thinking, too.

Whether or not that's the case, it's not going to look like that to shareholders, lol. UUUUUUGH

Really, it wouldn't take all that much to get this thing back on track, but we need to get the info for that to happen, lol.

We've been here before. A year ago, in fact. And exploded upward.

That's definitely part of it. I mean, you acquire something, and the timing of it is just oh-so perfect for the current atmosphere, give basically no details on it whatsoever, and expect people to believe in it?

An online website where you can order things and none of it has shipped, yet you've had it for 2 months and not updated anyone regarding that? Durrrr. Your stock price is going to go down....

Good products or not, it's not that difficult to take to twitter for five minutes and just let people know what's going on. F*ck, if I was CEO, I think I'd understand that that's kind of key to your stock price. At first I loved that these guys didn't put out fluff, now it's like just talk to someone in general!

I'm curious where all the big whigs are at the moment, and their sentiments? Obviously, I'm sure they're not good given the action over the last couple of months. TF and Nestegg.

I mean, I don't know the OTC well enough I guess, and maybe it's just a matter of everyone in the world being like meh, who the hell is MPhase and Verus Foods?

But I agree. I just looked at that today and noticed the same.

Yep, I agree. I've watched this stock every day for the last 1.5 to 2 years and besides that run to .0373, I've pretty much consistently been pissed off that we've gone nowhere or down on the news that we've received. Just has always felt like there's been a concerted effort to keep this thing down.

Well, at one point there were many that were up 2000% here in 6 months....so...easy to see why many stuck around here. That's 300 years in mutual fund life.

Anyone can pick out a short stock span and spin it however they want. See how I did that?

Hey, I'm with you across the board. Believe me. If the information fundamentally that we have is true, then where our market cap is at the moment is a stock market travesty.

CEO compensation, a little dilution, blah blah, whatever -- should not even be that big of a deal if our future looks as bright as it does. Again, "pro-forma profitable."

But management is AWFUL at communicating, and people are starting to take notice.

I mean, I've tasted their products. They're very, very good. I know how well they'd sell if they got in stores. MLB season or not, people would buy them. That alone, a physical product, is crazy for an OTC company and should justify keeping this thing afloat to some degree.

Just never thought I'd see trading like this. So frickin' weird.

While I agree with you fundamentally, it's pretty clear why people are dumping here. It looks bad -- REAL bad, since 2020.

While I'm laughing at some of your posts and agree with you, you need to get a hobby. Lol.

Yea, this stock (given what we know) is getting unnecessarily (in my opinion) battered when everything you had just said is spot on. Literally almost every other OTC stock on the planet is an absolute joke in comparison to VRUS.

I will say..they've had hiccups this year, they're not great at communicating, and their management has shown that it's definitely human in 2020, but otherwise what they've ALREADY completed is way more impressive than anyone else is this cesspool.

They were pro-forma profitable! That's insane for an OTC company. Get this stupid CEO compensation ordeal out of the way and let's start going higher. Amazing what the expectations are for this stock to move up. Can't even begin to imagine how hard other tickers down here fall when their absolutely horrendous news comes out for their companies, my god.

100% correct on every level of this post.

I do get a chuckle out of your criticisms. They're well thought out and usually pretty funny.

You're already at 2.3B, does that many more warrant selling it down as bad as it has or make that much of a difference in market cap? I could see if the floodgates were opened, but sheesh.

We're trading at severely lower levels than what the 3 to 3.5x sales rule would suggest we should be at. I think with us being OTC and some of the mishaps we should be on the lower end of the spectrum there, maybe even below 3x sales a bit, but not where we are by any means.

100% spot on.

For sure. I can remember when this thing ran last year from .002 to over .01 real quick. I was flipping this stock late '18, early '19 never thinking I'd see an OTC company jump like this did.

When I missed that jump, I believe from around .008 to .015ish, I missed out on thousands. That's when I officially became long here...was kicking myself in the ass.

Point being, I've seen the handful of runs this has had over the last year, year-and-a-half. It can move very fast, and we are trading at an immense discount right now in comparison to revenue/potential revenue.

Agree with this.

Again, I am just as annoyed with these guys on the communication level, notes, CEO pay and other parts of the business as others are. But there (in my opinion) is not enough there for the drop that we've had.

Fundamentally, we look no different, and in some cases better, than big boy companies. Get Anshu's disasterpiece CEO pay out of the way, and pro-forma, this company was profitable. Still WAAAY early on in its story.

0, and I mean 0, OTC companies are profitable. This one CAN BE soon. I just don't see how that doesn't resonate with others. It's crazy.

And again, I UNDERSTAND why people are hating here right now. This COULD all be a scam. I acknowledge this.

Yea, the stock has been battered pretty good as of late (rightfully so, lot of bonehead decisions), but I feel that so many have lost sight of what's going on here. I could be wrong and these guys are all liars, and who knows, maybe it's all a scam. Not a mind reader.

But truly, for an OTC (putting emphasis on that) company, this is literally as good as you can get. You roll with the punches. You get in (if you're long) knowing that something could go wrong quickly. It's on the OTC for a reason. All OTC companies CEO's suck and they take sh*tty toxic notes. Like, you should expect that. It's what comes out of them EVENTUALLY that matters.

Anyways, Lot of irons in the fire, as you said, with VRUS. If there's an OTC stock that can make you serious money, it's this one. But people need to allow this tiny ass company, with mid-level management, that has product SUITED FOR SPORTS as its main revenue stream to be able to actually have their moment before bashing them. I mean, we're in the middle of a pandemic here, I think they need to get cut a little slack.

Q3 and beyond hopefully we right the ship.

I'll admit, this story is going to take longer to unfold than I had originally anticipated. That being said, if you have the time and patience (fortunately, I do), I do think this whole thing is going to work.

They have real revenue making potential and their professional sports licenses aren't going away anytime soon. COVID really put a damper on that potential for 2020, but that is going to be nice to have moving forward.

They cut the BS, instill trust again, and start delivering like they did all of 2019 and this can rebound. I think that's easier said than done, but it can be done.

Yessir. Did I read right that you slapped the ask the other day? Probably a pretty good buy in point. Mind if I ask how many more you added, just out of my own curiosity?

Yea, I'm banking on the fact that the silence is because of some gooooood stuff going on behind the scenes. Come on, baby! VRUS

Yea, beyond the big whigs and you, he's one of the few who actually has a realistic view here. Respect his opinions.

Hey, I hear ya. Everything that's happened here they've brought on themselves. You are correct across the board.

I was just trying to say that while the blunders HAVE been apparent, and the CEO literally has been damaging to the stock as of late (the dilution and incompetence), there IS enough here, easily, to overcome the recent shortfalls. And I don't believe there's been enough done behind the scenes to warrant this type of a drop. Not YET, anyway. But hey, this is the OTC...

Yep. Believe me, I'm in it for the long haul so whatever happens, happens. I, personally, believe there's an anchor somewhere -- whether it be Monaker or collective trading efforts. I'm not nearly as concerned as many others due to the fact that I walked into this knowing it was a "from the floor" play and am definitely willing to give it the time it deserves, just rough seeing the growing pains.

I'm always thinking the same thing. I have no freakin' clue what would need to happen to get this thing going beyond what we already do.

I literally feel that ANY other ticker that released the same PR's as we have would act appropriately, and this just...doesn't. I mean for crying out loud, the OTC has rarely seen anything of our "caliber" and we get no love. Our fundamentals are far better than many other stocks on other exchanges, the financials are IN-LINE, if not far better, than other stocks at our level in their growth. We have legitimate MLB product and signed deals w/ a national chain, the list goes on. And it just...keeps...trickling...down. I'm sure this ticker is one of the more known ones on the OTC, so I don't know how new retail gets brought in to outweigh the selling, unless, as you said, we just get bomb PR's 3 weeks straight, lol.

It just has felt for some time now that this has to be a concerted effort to drive price down. There's just no justification for a stock like this to have a market cap of 0.5 of sales. Some stupid mistakes, but not enough financially or fundamentally to justify that.

The one thing I will say is that I think all of us '19ers and before got such an instant gratification with this ticker with its meteoric rise in 6 months last year. Really set an unrealistic standard for us all out of the gate.

Like many other tickers out there, though, when you hit the 3-year chart, a lot of them DO have lulls like this only to get another slingshot the other way. I mean, I have time here, and am willing to give it. But the recent action blows. No doubt about it.

Yea man, CANNOT say that I am pleased with what I'm seeing here....I have no idea how at this point this can get corrected. It just seems like there are too many forces working against this thing.

IF (and that's a big if) everything they say is true, I believe all of this is unwarranted. But I understand the recent sentiment given the blunders. I'm still just not ready to pull the plug given the fact that this company, does, in fact, show filings, revenue, and the like. But yea, nothing to do but just sit and wait and hopefully get out of this spiral.

The ONE thing that gives me the slightest bit of comfort is that I'm close to where I started when I really got in this thing at the end of '18/early '19. With the amount of revenue shown, I CAN'T imagine this has plenty more to move down, but I don't know what the hell to believe anymore.

Yea man, I feel ya. And I will not be back in the OTC, either. I still have hopes, and as you said, why would I sell at this point? I had some realized gains from last year that pretty much even me out here, but either way, there still IS potential enough for me to stick around until I feel comfortable getting out.

Same w/ the checking for the PR's, though. Hoping we can somehow manage to get back to those levels, but I feel like it could be quite some time, if ever. I wish to god I would have got out then, too. I was at $80K at that point! And I started '19 with $4K in my brokerage (plus a few additions) and got that high. I feel like a certified dumb@ss, lol.

Back when this stock was still flying under the OTC radar, and a few of our longs were eating up all of the shares it was easy to drive the price up that far. I remember watching it happen and being like holy crap, is this real? But since the secret's been out, traders have dominated this stock. And I don't see how that can change, either.

Same here. Just hoping and praying at this point, lol. I can SEE all of the good, but will it culminate? I'm not even looking anymore. Let's go, baby!

Taking advantage of it being on Walmart's site. Most people would never think to try and find an outside site where it might be cheaper or even think one would exist.

Laughing my d*ck off

Ah..Miraramer Kunkafustan, yes, he's a good dude.

Him and Moreamore Angusted.

Yup, agree. I mean, I know people. And people are bad with money. There are so many that will be like, "Oh my gosh! Candy with my team on it!" and just buy it spontaneously, lol.

Me, I look at candy as a giant waste of money, and only bought it to sample it myself. But I see dollar signs in my eyes for the general public buying it up. It's very good.

I even tried it in the fridge, as you suggested a while back, and didn't like it better than even just sitting in the package, but they are quality.

Also, the packaging is great. The regular gummies and chocolates are kind of "meh" (it's just the team logo, nothing special like the skyline of the city) but the packaging for the sour gummies is great. It's got a really great feel to it, and there's a lot of people looking to buy candy out there that will just instantly buy it because it has their team logo on it. Then they'll be surprised just simply from how good it is once they've tried it, too.

It's weird to describe, but it's actually, like, fun opening the package, lol. Just got down on some last night. And most importantly, it's got the big 'ol fat VERUS FOODS on the back of each package.

Yea, man.

That is one thing I will say -- BLF is the truth. They're the best gummies (big sour gummy dude, only candy I ever will ususally buy) and non-premium brand chocolates I've ever had. Now granted, I'm not much of a candy guy and rarely ever buy it, but it's above and beyond better than what I HAVE had.

My initial thought in trying both was: "really, how different are they than any other sour gummy/chocolate?" And I went into it completely expecting both products to be average. It's easy to see why they did so well in landing deals with the big places that they did. They will sell well. Very good. Even the chocolates I was like (I don't care for caramel), well these will probably suck. Tried them and wow, they are frickin' awesome.

Just from impulse buying alone, and if they add on the other leagues, I think they have a big winner with that subsidiary.