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whole witness list...... https://stocktwits.com/Durango24k/message/572494968
993 vs scamsung, 10 entries today..................
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/17206527/netlist-inc-v-samsung-electronics-co-ltd/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc
NLST Part 2, Netlist Witness List in comments.. https://sih-st-charts.stocktwits-cdn.com/production/original_572495310.jpg
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my favorite NLST song................
NLST Good Friday morning Netlisters.
Let the truth be told.
For the newbies that don't know how far back this connection goes with the real parties of interest.
It's pretty much ground zero and a picture is worth a thousand words, someone send Kathy a copy it might open her blind eyes.
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TOMKiLA
7:44 AM
$NLST I assure you that HBM is 100% netlist's greatest opportunity to become a successful company. Limited access to this business, total control between sk (our partner) and samsung (our enemy). I would say that Samsung's damage is growing exponentially and an opportunity like this will never happen again. Everyone will have to work 200% to make NLST's HBM patents valid, only in this way can we say we have gold in our hands. not even the 912 is that powerful for increased value.
if the 912 is found on all 12 million servers sold every year, hbm as you can see from the photo, has an exponential increase in use and can be used in more fields.
Previously, SK Hynix forecasted that by 2030, its HBM shipments would reach 100 million units annually
Netlist made 16$ for every HBM unit in the Samsung case. Both Samsung and sk are doubles their HBM shipment every single year! Numbers speaks for us, in less than 2 year HBM will be more important than 912 (my opinion)
https://stocktwits.com/TOMKiLA/message/572404343
robcobb
7:39 AM
$NLST We are focused on the BOC trial at this moment, there are many different scenarios that could play out ,most in Nlst favor.Any outcome other than Samsung prevailing will result in Judge Gilstrap finally setting the Samsung royalty rate (mentioned in a recent filing) for the 463 case!This is a pivotal point in my eyes! Don’t forget mediation is going on in the Micron case and if it fails I expect Judge Gilstrap to do something unexpected,as many have observed in the past how he operates!Judge Gilstrap seemed like he wanted this case and cases settled through mediation. I think he will come up with a way to help the cases along if that doesn’t happen !(IMO)Whatever the scenarios that play out,we don’t have to wait very long now to see the results! Good luck to true longs! I am on go if needed in Marshall!
NLST Interesting thread from Patent Examiner Reddit—into their thinking. https://www.reddit.com/r/patentexaminer/comments/1cockdb/several_questions/?sort=new
Q
"Does the Patent Office have a mechanism for notifying examiners when patents they’ve allowed/issued were later invalidated by a court or the PTAB?
Are examiners that allowed/issued patents that were later invalidated given any additional training? Is it addressed with the examiner at all?
Does the Patent Office maintain statistics on how many patents allowed/issued by a particular examiner had one or more claims later invalidated?"
A
"You realize you are assuming that the PTAB and district court judges (and jury) decide invalidity "correctly." The district courts and PTAB get reversed by the Fed Cir regularly. You also assume the patent owner puts up a decent fight against validity every time. The patent owner might not care about a patent (if he has others) getting invalidated or is just unwilling to throw money/lawyers to defend it or to appeal a bad invalidity decision to Fed Cir
NLST When you think you've seen/learned everything regarding the nefariousness of USPTO/PTAB... this article emerges today.
"For those familiar with Reddit and the breadth of topics covered it probably comes as no real surprise that there is a patent examiner Reddit, which has some 4,800 users. What should be surprising—shocking even—is what was recently discussed in one quickly deleted thread within that patent examiner Reddit."
"It is astonishing that a patent examiner would take to a public forum, disclose information relating to the application on which they are working, and confess to not wanting to issue a patent based on personal political beliefs."
"As stunningly inappropriate as this post was, the replies by other self-identified patent examiners are even more troubling and indicative of deep problems at the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO)."
"What kind of culture is growing behind the scenes at the USPTO?"
There's plenty more, worth a read!
https://ipwatchdog.com/2024/05/09/uspto-needs-investigate-disturbing-patent-examiner-reddit-thread/id=176380/
i wholeheartedly agree, but your talking common sense. they dont................
makes it quite of obvious why they use every attempt humanly possible to stay out of court or going crying to ptab!
NLST These were posted this in my next to last previous post but I wanted to highlight these two witnesses that Samsung is trying to hide, especially the one on the bottom and the comments he made in a communication to Netlist.
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NLST Apparently Sheasby has a problem with the two parties communications translations that have been provided, so he's providing his own. Additional page in comments.
https://stocktwits.com/Durango24k/message/572351969
NLST Samsung is trying to hide some of the witnesses by not providing Netlist their Korean address so they can serve them a subpoena. Sheasby isn't having it. Other pages posted in comments.
https://stocktwits.com/Durango24k/message/572349383
make sure you re read what choi says in that last green paragraph. he's telling scarsi samsung had an obligation to pay, and was providing netlist with far less than their requested supply. icing on the cake............
NLST Big Shout-out to JS Choi (likely now formerly of Scamsung) for being one of my favorites on the side of Netrist
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i even gotta give this one a thumbs up. how can ya not like it ? lol !!
oh, and i know the clown will stamp it with his approval as well, hes gotta go both ways on this one lol !!!!
NLST There's no link to the full Final PreTrial Conference Order from Judge Scarsi so here's the full 20+ pages for your viewing pleasure, all posted in the comments section.
https://stocktwits.com/Durango24k/message/572255190
NLST Parts from MIL Ord sec—OTHER ISSUES
"Smsng’s counsel expressed concern over Ntlst’s intent to call Smsng-affiliated witnesses"—"Court denies the former relief requested, as the Court finds sufficient Netlist’s identification of the relevant subjects about which Smsng witnesses will testify in its case"
"Smsng contended that Ntlst should not be allowed to prove a breach should Smsng convince the jury of its interpretation of JDLA§6.2."—"Court disagrees with Smsng. Ntlst’s pleadings, discovery responses, and motion papers do not foreclose it from presenting a breach case upon the theory of the contract Smsng intends to proffer at trial. This is especially true given the several interpretations of §6.2 Smsng offered over the course of its defense of this case."
"Court also rejects Smsng’s argument, apparently made for the first time at the conference, that the Court should allow it to revive its affirmative defenses if Ntlst is allowed to bring a breach case on Smsng’s interpretation"
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The Recap not working and preventing me from making docs publicly available is really messing with my abilities to share and explain things/filings. Any input/ideas that can help would be appreciated.
I have an Apple IMAC running older OS Monterey—which worked fine till Recap update—though initially it also didn't work for about a month, then magically did.
I guess I can always post a bunch of screenshots of each page—this instance would be about 20 per doc, but that's hard for folks to read, and ideally it's best to use the link to the actual documents.
Another thing I'd like to do is figure out how to make video/audio with screen share, but without having a Youtube channel.
I will keep trying though, and hope it starts working after a bit of time, like when I initially started using it.
NLST BOC case Motions In Limine & Final Pretrial Orders were filed. Since updating Recap Ext it hasn't worked... paid for doc and can access, but can't make it public—I'll keep trying. If I knew how to post video without Youtube, I'd love to show & walk folks through the complex docs.
Netlist mostly got what they wanted on KEY issues, with stipulations for Samsung otherwise... which is pretty good considering what Samsung tried. Must read to understand, or let it play out.
Parties to confer on final verdict form version.
MILs Conclusion—"Court grants in part and denies in part Netlist’s 4th MIL, grants in part and denies in part Samsung’s 5th MIL, and denies all the other MILs subject to the guidance in this Order."
Pretrial Conf Order contents & few facts:
-4 day trial
-Netlist Claims & Defenses with Statement
-Samsung Statement on Netlist Claims and Defenses
-Samsung Counterclaims & Affirmative Defenses—none plead/raised
-Remaining Triable Issues—Netlist & Samsung positions
-No Bifurcation
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I like getting into stocks that may take years to get back to breakeven that is funny as real is real, only we know how to do that lol !!!!! oh the memories..........
one that comes to mind.........nlst baby, i been waitin longer than i have on any play in my entire career. right now i'm down about 30cents pps so i still got plenty of hope !!!!
lets face it, when this does move they will get buried !
oh i believe it, your not the only one seeing it. and as far as the wine and cheese goes, your on your own !! lol !!! not exactly, but its too hot here to complain.........
today may 8th, case 294 micrap mediation https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/64861663/netlist-inc-v-micron-technology-texas-llc/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc
TOMKiLA
10:13 AM
$NLST may 14th, netlist vs Samsung/ boc trial
Ready to win
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TOMKiLA
9:28 AM
$NLST netlist increased sales of the company's products by 120%. Many people wonder why margins are low, perhaps one reason comes from the fact that 4 million nlst sales could show losses (it's one of the tempting hypotheses).
I add, netlist has finished products worth $13 million, up from $7.5 million in December. There's definitely something interesting behind it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Netlist_/comments/1cn4ib6/interesting_data_on_inventories_and_sales_of_nlst/?share_id=HxvSAukiHmT7WpmfCJHEX&utm_content=2&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1
robcobb
7:43 AM
$NLST I know how it feels wanting to know what’s going on in the courtroom in California. I don’t think it would be a good thing to have a reporter in the courtroom unless that person can report accurately what takes place.It could lead to more anxiety than being helpful!There are many things that happen with the fast pace of the lawyers that could be interpreted the wrong way.When I am in that situation I only report what I am 100% sure is correct and will be verified in the document drops. I don’t know if anyone will be in Judge Scarsi court the 14th but if so I hope they can report accurately what happens, and will be able to rebut any fuds that are there! I will be at the Micron trial on the 20th and will only report information that is 100% accurate as I have in the past.The Micron trial is fast approaching!Good luck true longs !
$NLST BOC conf/hearing Minutes dropped—text only entry. Full read in screenshot.
"Court and counsel confer about the proposed verdict form. The Court will allow each side seven hours to present their case-in-chief. Counsel address the Court on their motions in limine. The Court takes Plaintiff's MIL to Preclude Evidence or Argument Covered by Estoppel, MIL to Exclude Evidence Regarding Abandoned or Rejected Defenses, MIL to Admit Testimony, MIL to Exclude Evidence Regarding Jury's Finding of No Cover Damages, MIL to Exclude Evidence Regarding Post-Termination Sales, Defendant's MIL to Exclude Testimony of Scott Milton, Devon Park, and Noel Whitley, MIL to Exclude Opinion Testimony of Netlist Expert Mr. Larry Tedesco, MIL to Exclude Evidence of Self-Serving Uncommunicated Subjective Intent and Understandings, MIL to Exclude Evidence of Alleged Consequential Damages, MIL to Exclude Regarding the Value of Netlist's Patents Licensed to Samsung, UNDER SUBMISSION and a ruling will be issued"
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believe it or not its all ours but it aint happening tomorrow!!!
Stokd
1:00 PM
$NLST Netlist attorney additions for appeals—Bios linked in my recent posts on them:
Michael Heim—former USPTO patent examiner.
Jonathan Lindsay—focus on PTAB & appeals.
Blair Silver—in top 2% with PTAB & CAFC appeals.
Philip Warrick—USPTO assoc solicitor / USPTO IP counsel detail to Senators / represented USPTO & Director in Fed Court & CAFC appeals.
APPEALS—in addition to Sheasby:
339—Blair Silver—#24-1707
506—Jonathan Lindsay—#24-1521
314—?—#24-1313
523—Philip Warrick—#23-2133
060/160 Director Review rqst—Blair Silver—CAFC appeal next.
215/417 IPRs—Michael Heim
As more appeals are filed I expect these names and other possible additions for Netlist’s appeal efforts. We are stacked with top talent and our winning infringement case attorney Sheasby will lead jury verdict appeals of infringers along with some of these names.
CAFC appeals is where it matters and where the money/damages are made and patent validity/invalidity is affirmed... and we have a winning team to bring it all home.
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Stokd
12:36 PM
$NLST No minutes or orders have been filed from BOC pretrial conference yet. Regardless of what the parties argued for and how they argued... I’m ok with letting them work out issues without diving into the weeds. Mostly interested in the judge’s decisions on pretrial matters and how the trial plays out.
At this point and considering all the pending aspects relying on the outcome, in addition to what we’ve been through on the BOC matter, we just want the result... the rest is trivial. As informative and interesting everything else can be, as it pertains to this case/issue—BOC—only the verdict will suffice for me.
Keep in mind that Netlist can appeal if the judgment/verdict/outcome is adverse. Not sure how much desire there is to watch Samsung attempt to manipulate and misrepresent every aspect to the jury—which will be hard to tolerate and swallow, causing severe frustration—which I don’t plan on entertaining. Perhaps going off the grid till conclusion seems like a wise choice.
TOMKiLA
3m
$NLST the market already discounted every single bad news, let’s remember when ptab said no to 912.
We are ready for every single opportunity right now, let’s see the boc and micron trials in the next weeks.
Let’s destroy them, Samsung and micron will pay huge damages
NLST popa chubby is buying shares today, heard it on the msg boards........
Stokd
28m
$NLST To say that our special matters attorney—wrote POP/Director Review request in 912 IPR regarding Real Party in Interest issue, which was granted but later ruled not RPI—and appeal expert Phillip Warrick is connected is an understatement... and ironically, he actually represented the USPTO and its Director in court on appeal cases at the CAFC. If he’s good enough for the USPTO and its Director in cases at the CAFC, he sounds like an astounding pick to represent Netlist at the CAFC for our appeals, along with our other recent CAFC appeal and PTAB specialist hires—one of which was a USPTO patent examiner (Michael Heim) and other is in the top 2% in appeal wins at the CAFC (Blair Silver).
Link to Philip Warrick's bio/profile below — check out part of it in the screenshot...🔥!!!
https://www.irell.com/professionals-philip-warrick
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Stokd $NLST **UPDATED CHART**
Few changes/developments since 4/26, also reflected Samsung/Micron appeals of PTAB validated patents—will be first CAFC appeal results we get—which should stick considering PTAB’s hindsight obviousness nonsense… safe to say if they could’ve they would’ve invalidated. I would think German case 735 patent invalidity ruling will be appealed as well, perhaps awaiting 660 decision first.
Samsung’s 523 appeal is in late stages—filed July 3/2023—and currently in the process of scheduling Oral Argmnt. Parties provided scheduling conflicts for the first week of the months July-Dec—when CAFC hears cases—Netlist available / Samsung unavailable Aug. Micron’s 314 appeal was filed Dec 29,2023.
Phillip Warrick—big gun from DC/Irell office who has assisted in special matters on certain aspects in Netlist’s litigation—is lead and will argue for Netlist on 523 appeal. I suspect he'll work other appeals with our new appeal specialists. His Bio is impressive! More in next post.
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not a dumb question, but all these scumball companies are in bed together so the only time their gonna throw you under the bus is if there gonna get squashed first, and the very next day its business as usual. the ones that use the product you are supplying are the ones that will go with you as long as you can stay valid. if they can get it legally cheaper they will. some companies are crooked and some companies will pay you. sk and nlst are licensed, i hope to God they renue that contract... sorry for the ramble, i'm sleep deprived.............
SK hynix expects HBM memory chip revenues of over $10 billion in 2024
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/98002/sk-hynix-expects-hbm-memory-chip-revenues-of-over-10-billion-in-2024/index.html
NLST 10-Q Quarterly Report May 06, 2024
https://investors.netlist.com/websites/netlist/English/3200/us-sec-filings.html
thats cool..
roger that.