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DMEC (.018) Another 52-wk High (.0189). eom.
DMEC (.018) Another new 52-wk high. Vol 4.6m
It's this stocks time. Somebody knows something. I'm thinking big news is coming related to Amazon.com sales and more.
DMEC (.014) 52-week high. Tomorrow .02+. IMHO
DMEC (.014) 52-week high. Tomorrow .02+. IMHO
Once F/S shares issued, we will. IMHO. eom.
DMEC(.014) High since Apr05 Vol closing in on same. eom.
How about Today's trading !!!!
DMEC - 2nd Highest Vol/Price in a year. Can you experienced people tell if this is trading as usual for this stock or if something may finally happen with it ?
Up almost 100% last 2 days on good volume for this stock as of late.
With the DOW fast approaching 12,000, I think it is a sign to investors, especially pennies, that the market is coming back. I think we will see this kind of thing out of a lot of penney stocks. Good time to be in DMEC and others like it. IMHO.
Bid .0018, Ask .004 on Ameritrade. eom.
lookforward..LOL..Yes and then they are going to print 130+ trillions shares and send them to us, instead of sending each one of us one certificate with the number of shares we own. Only way I can figure the cost would be, oh, what was the word she used, oh yea, "considerable additional costs".
She also said "additional processing time will apply in order for you to receive your certificate. Certificates are issued by the transfer agent for the company and not by your brokerage firm."
So if the TA sends us the certs, what is the "considerable additional costs" for Ameritrade.
Ameritrade..Blah, Blah, Blah...Miss Piggy I asked.
I think the Ameritrade reps are electronic. LOL
I've sent yet another response. you know the drill.
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My response:
You still haven't told me why they are NOT DTC Eligible ???????? Why won't they hold them in electronic form ? What makes them DTC in-eligible ?
I was told that OptionsExpress was holding the shares electronically. Is this true ? If so, why can't they continue to hold them ?
If you do end up not holding them, will DTC send them to us ? If so, can we send them back to you and can you then hold them electronically ?
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Their Lame Response:
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Mr. DumbAssWhoWeCanKeepStringingAlongUntilHeGivesUpAndQuitsSendingUsEmails,
The decision regarding the ability to hold the preferred shares of Blackout Media through the Depository Trust Company is made between the transfer agent for Blackout Media and DTC. For information regarding this decision, you may wish to consult with the transfer agent for Blackout Media directly.
I am unable to comment on OptionsExpress ability or inability to hold the shares electronically. For clarification, you may wish to consult with them directly.
As indicated previously, in the event we are unable to hold the position on your behalf, additional processing time will apply in order for you to receive your certificate. Certificates are issued by the transfer agent for the company and not by your brokerage firm.
If we are unable to hold the shares for you and a certificate is issued to you directly, we would not be able to hold the shares for you should you choose to return the certificate to TD Ameritrade.
HAL #345712.
Apex Reorganization and Safekeeping, TD AMERITRADE
Division of TD AMERITRADE, Inc.
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Ameritrade is looking out for us.....LOL read on
My response to them. I threw out 137 trillion hoping they would orecct me and share some addt'l info. It didn't work:
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Why non-electronic ? Why are they not eligible to be held electronically via DTC ?
Even so, I'm finding it hard to believe, for instance for me, I would only need one certificate that had on it the number of shares I own. If your system cannot print billions of shares, then I suppose maybe I would need a few more, but still, not that many. Even if you look at the 137 trillion, or whatever it is, dividing it by a billion still is only 137,000+/-certificates, considering the number of people owning shares, which probably isn't 137,000. What costs can be involved in that ? You print them off on a laser printer on the mainframe and they are done in a couple hours. You get a bunch of empty paper boxes and put them in there and put them in the tape
vault. Maybe my company can help you in this matter. Maybe we can do it a lot cheaper than what you are looking at.
I'm not trying to be a pain, I am just really interested in the process and since my shares are involved, I am even more interested. I too, want to make sure my best interest is being taken into account. What you believe that is and what I believe that is might be two different things. That's why I am trying to get clarification on this. Once I get enough information that makes me feel our interests are the same, I will feel better and leave it in your hands.
Thanks again for you prompt response
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Their Response:
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Mr. xxxxxxx,
Thank you for your recent inquiry. As stated in our previous communications, the shares of BKMPP will not be DTC eligible. This means that DTC will not hold these shares in electronic form on behalf of the respective brokerage firms. When a position is not DTC eligible, it is necessary for DTC to certificate shares for the various brokerage firms with whom they do business upon receipt of the shares. This process is manual in nature and as a result, it can take additional time for us to receive payment.
Due to the risks associated with receiving accurate and timely information concerning corporate actions on Pink Sheet and Bulletin Board securities, TDAmeritrade will post the shares once we have received them from the transfer agent. Currently, we have not made a determination as to whether we will be able to hold the shares of BKMPP once received or whether a physical certificate will be issued in your name and sent to the address on file for your account. Please be advised that in the event we are unable to hold the position on your behalf, additional processing time will apply in order for you to receive your certificate. Certificates are issued by the transfer agent for the company and not by your brokerage firm.
I apologize for any frustration you have experienced with this matter. We value your business and appreciate your patience as we work diligently to resolve these concerns on behalf of our clients.
xxxxxx x.
Apex Reorganization and Safekeeping, TD AMERITRADE
Division of TD AMERITRADE, Inc.
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Frustration is right. At some point usually in these exchanges they tell me they can no longer help me in the matter. I wonder how many times it will take on this one. I sent a response to this. Will post when I get one from them.
Thanks MP. I'll mention that in my next exchange
Ameritrade runaround continues...Here is what I asked them this time (I have already sent a response to this. Will post when I get reply):
What "considerable additional costs" could be involved in holding DTC Eligible shares, when they are electronic ? I've been a software developer for 30 years and I can say for sure it isn't going to cost a lot in disk space to hold these shares, so what is it ?
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And Their Response (Probably not a Level III like AT was talking about):
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Mr. xxxxxxx,
The Preferred shares of Blackout Media are not eligible to be held electronically via DTC.
At this point in time we are still calculating what the additional cost may be for holding the position in a non-electronic format. The additional costs arise when we must hold a physical stock certificate rather then it being held electronically at DTC. While we cannot disclose the additional cost which may be involved with holding this position, please rest assured that our decision will take into account the best interest of our clients.
xxxxxxx x.
Apex Reorganization and Safekeeping, TD AMERITRADE
Division of TD AMERITRADE, Inc.
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can't handle that many shares..BS. They're electronic. They don't add a different record (row) in the DB for every share a person owns. They add a record for the person, and set the # of shares field (column) to how many are owned. The no. of records in the DB will be how many shareholders there are, give or take.
Unless whoever designed their database was a total idiot, that arguement is not valid.
Considerable Cost ? Anyone know what this might be ?
Anyone know why it would cost Ameritrade a considerable amount to hold the DTC shares ?
Ameritrade Response. FWIW.
I asked when my CONTRA shares would get the BKMPP symbol and I would be able to trade. Here is the response I got. Nothing we didn't already know. Pretty much what they have been saying.
Mr. xxxxxxx,
The PFD shares of Blackout Media are not DTC eligible. The decision regarding the ability to hold the preferred shares of Blackout Media through the Depository Trust Company is made between the transfer agent for Blackout Media and DTC. For information regarding this decision, you may wish to consult with the transfer agent for Blackout Media directly.
There are considerable additional costs that can be incurred when a security is not DTC eligible. As such, it will be necessary for TD Ameritrade to make a determination as to our ability to hold the shares on your behalf. We are currently evaluating our ability to hold the security and hope to have a final determination in the near future.
If we are unable to hold the security on your behalf, we will request that a physical certificate representing your position in Blackout Media be issued in your name and sent to the address on file for your account. Please feel free to check with us periodically regarding the status of this issue.
Currently, we have not received the preferred shares of Blackout Media from the company's transfer agent. As a result, your account is reflecting the preferred shares of Blackout Media in a 'contra' or a non-tradable position. Once the preferred shares have been received, your account would be updated accordingly to reflect the symbol of BKMPP
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My Mistake, you are correct. That would make it what we paid for our orignal shares.
No Symbol..Orig amount..still the same
Mine are still in my account with no symbol and show the same number of shares I currently own and owned on the cutoff date.
I'm still having a hard time believing that when these are issued with the new symbol, that we will be able to sell them, unless the price is something like .00000005. That way our billions ,and in some cases trillions, of shares are worth no more than what they were before the 1:10000.
I hear ya..Sure hope they aren't sending me the restricted from my IRA. They told me they weren't but when my JPHC shares disappeared Monday, they did in both my accounts.
99 shares of PAVC I am owed
99 shares of PAVC
Took just 1, to buy you see
99 shares of PAVC I am owed
Oh, let's hope. Then I'll have nothing. Why should this stock be any different from the other 30 I have 1 share of.
same here. PAVC shares MIA. Even in my IRA account. And I still don't have my 99 shares (actually 96, but 99 works better).
99 shares of PAVC I am owed,
99 shares of PAVC..
Took just 1, to buy you see,
99 shares of PAVC I am Ooowwwweeeed!
sing it with me, all together now
99 shares of PAVC I am owed,
99 shares of PAVC..
Took just 1, to buy you see,
99 shares of PAVC I am Ooowwwweeeed!
99 shares of PAVC I am owed,
99 shares of PAVC..
Took just 1, to buy you see,
99 shares of PAVC I am Ooowwwweeeed!
Same here..Don't have my 100 yet...
Not until you want to register them to sell them after 1 or 2 years. Then it's $250. Well, maybe not for Apex customers.
If your are an Ameritrade customer, and even if you aren't, read my post from earlier if you haven't already. The process is pretty much the same, with the exception of the Fees and whether or not you have to use a broker.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=12763760
From TDA, How-to: Sell Rule 144 PAVC Restricted Shares through Ameritrade (TDA), for those who don't know all the details.
I just got off the phone with TDA talking with a young Gentleman who seemed very knowledgeable on how to sell the restricted shares through Ameritrade (You DON’T have to sell them though TDA, if you have the certificates in your hands, even if you held them in a TDA account previously). This is from him and not my instructions. Anything that he may have told me that someone feels is wrong, please don't blast me for it, but call TDA instead. Thanks. As a long-term shareholder, I am providing this as a courtesy for anyone who does not know this.
Conversion of Shares
IRA Shares are left in your account after conversion, as it would count as a distribution if they sent the shares to you and they don't want to deal with the paperwork involved with that. Non-IRA shares will be sent to you in certificate form. As most of you should know by now, shares will be converted 0.462320850 restricted shares of Paivis Corp. (PAIV) for every one share of JPHC. This is how the email reads. I forgot to ask him if they would really say PAIV or PAVC.
Unless otherwise noted, this applies to selling them after 1 or 2 years.
1) First and foremost on selling the shares, you can only sell them through TDA from a Margin Account. If you do not have a Margin Account, you can open one with a $2,000 minimum deposit, or convert an existing account with at least $2,000 balance to a margin account. (After you sell the shares, you can convert the account back)
2) TDA will charge you $250 to sell the shares
3) You have to fill out about 7-pages of paperwork to register the shares and send the endorsed (Over to TDA) certificates and the paperwork to TDA. Once they receive them, the processing by TDA won’t be completed for 4-6 weeks (send to TA, get them back, etc.), but you CAN request to sell them during that time.
4) You can ONLY sell them through a TDA broker, over the phone, or I guess in person.
5) After registering the shares, the terms of selling them are:
After 1 year: you MUST sell them. You CANNOT hold them in your account. You have 90 days to sell them, after which time you don’t sell them, they will be returned to you in certificate form. If you want to put them up for sale them again, you have to do this all over again, including the paperwork and $250. If you sell part of them, I think he said the remaining portion are returned to you in certificate form and the previous applies. I’m not sure if the 90 days starts before or after the 4-6 weeks.
After 2 years: they become free trading shares and you can sell them whenever you want, however, all of the above (fee, broker, margin account) still applies, with the exception that there isn’t as much paperwork. He said that TDA would usually just accept the endorsed shares.
6) To receive your funds after you sell the shares, you have to call TDA and tell them you want to “Clear and Deliver” the shares I just sold of Paivis.
Now, if you don’t want to deal with TDA, you can always deal with the Transfer Agent yourself and sell them through whomever you want. You cannot sell them though the TA.
I hope this helps at least one person understand this besides me.
GLTA
we could only hope. eom.
JPHC to be converted by 09/30/2006. woohoo
I just received an email from Ameritrade for my IRA account saying my JPHC shares would be converted by September 30th, 2006.
I'll have to call about my non-IRA account.
If you do an Open URL with the following Link in iTunes or Windows Media Player, you can listen to it, or is that your problem:
http://www.marketnewsfirst.com/mp3/QTEK_081506.MP3
I haven't had the chance to listen to it yet either.
fuge..maybe they've upped their standards. maybe you need $1M now.
I know when I lost a ton of money back in 2000, Ameritrade treated my like a bastard son. And when I had more than $50K sitting in my cash, they would be sending me emails and calling me up telling me to get it invested or they were going to charge me. They didn't like paying interest. Course this was back several years. Their tune may have changed present day.
What's that saying, "The customer is always right". LOL
serf..they take care of their BIG customers first. Ones with $100K balance and above and with high transaction rates.
Same here. They told me the JPHC shares would be converted to PAVC and stay in both my accounts.
I've never received physical shares and don't want to. They always stay in my TDA account.
My JPHC still have NO symbol and are pre-split numbers. I have Ameritrade.
Also, my PAIV pre split are back with the PAIV symbol, where before they had no symbol. My post about this from earlier today. Something to think about:
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=12676483
My TDA PAIV back also..My Post from Earlier today..
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=12676483
PAIV/PAVC. R/S. 100 Shares. Tomorrow Maybe ? Yesterday and before, my pre-split PAIV shares (not the restricted JPHC), were in my TDA account without a symbol. Today they have the PAIV symbol, so I'm thinking, IMHO, that maybe tonight they will be processing the R/S. Could it Be !?!?!?!?!?!?!