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Yes. I took myself off as Moderator because I am going through some stuff here at home and I won't be able to dedicate as much time to it as I should. It isn't fair to everyone for me to come on as a moderator and then practically abandon the duties due to my home life issues that are in dire need of my attention at this time.
My apologies to everyone, but I would not make for an effective Mod if I am not online as much and not able to respond to concerns or issues as quickly as is expected from everybody. There are times where I am offline all day then come on at night to see all hell broke loose and the issue(s) could and should have been dealt with earlier so things wouldn't have spiraled out of control in some cases. I still check the board somewhat often, but there are a lot of times I check but can't post. Not being able to issue bans to those who are not following the TOS or are not being helpful to the BIG picture of this board kinda sucks, but it is understandable. If Mods had the power to issue Bans, then half the board would be banned! HAHA!!! but seriously, it is better in the end that Mods can not issue bans and that only IH Admins can. My stepping down was also a knee-jerk reaction, but as I contemplated it further, I realized that it is better for now for the reasons I stated above. I can't justify accepting the Mod position and then be absent when I am expected to carry out my duties or do them when it is too late and damage has been done. An absent Mod is no Mod at all really.
That said, I can re-apply in about 25 days or whatever it is at this point. Hopefully by then, I will be able to dedicate myself properly to the board and everyone here to make this a better place to discuss OBMP in a non-agressive dialogue between fellow investors.
it hasn't been put on there yet, but it likely will be. The right to try should help boost that fact alone. I imagine that within 1 month it will be on there and we could be slightly further ahead than we expect. 1 month may not seem like a long time but for those pushing the fast track of this new drug, it must feel like 6 months. I am really hoping for that investor mob! :)
What makes you so certain JT? Did you speak to someone relevant there or is it a hunch you have?
At the top where it shows:
Home > Boards > US OTC > Medical - Drugs > OncBioMune Pharmaceuticals Inc. (OBMP)
Click the OncBioMune Pharmaceuticals Inc. (OBMP) link then RIGHT BELOW that it shows who the Moderators are. There are 5 of them.
To find out who deleted the message that person would have to pretty much tell you they did it. When I would delete a message I would try to explain why I did it so nobody would point fingers at others. (Courtesy thing) Maybe you were sent a PM explaining why? But I'm sure you'd know if you were sent a PM.
OK then. Done. But know that I was trying to be fair and yet let everyone chime in and tried to keep it as G rated as possible and tried to issue warnings before just blindly tossing messages out. I have no time or patience to micro-manage or to get into details of word meanings or double ententes (Or however it's spelled) and such. I can't make everyone happy, but I tried to be as fair as possible while allowing as much as possible for debate... ish.
I also can not do private messages and I only get 3 messages a day. So I am sorry but I can not reply to any PM's.
I do not have the ability to ban anyone or temporarily suspend anyone from posting. I think that is IHUB's Admin people or Their Mods. I'd have to look into that unless another Mod can fill me in. Remember, I am new at this Mod thing.
Exactly. But letting THIS MUCH time go by without so much as a peep from ANYBODY just gets a little annoying. And the longer it goes on with no word whatsoever, the more annoying it gets.
Well, that's my 3'rd. LOL! and it's only 8:40 in the blasted morning! ahhh well. Time to make coffee.
See ya again tomorrow!
No Problem. It was actually pretty easy to do.
I don't know how to update it nor have the ability to make it look as good. :(
Yup! Time for this baby to start Flying like an eagle!
DONE! OBMP Added. Come on everyone. It certainly will not hurt to do it. It can only help. :)
So has anyone gotten in contact with someone at PAZOO to find out when we can expect a new PR? This late 10Q issue is getting out of hand!
No I read that in the labryinth of the TOS pages. I think they view it as a privacy thing I don't know. I'm not going to delete them if people want to divuldge that info, let them I say.
Here is a SMALL portion of what I read through so far.. (Get Comfy) This was copy pasted and it is a mess so I will try to bold the questions and the answers will be in normal print.
When should I delete a post?
The Big Picture - A Must Read for All Mod Squad members, Moderators and Assistants
Generally speaking, it's generally a clear-cut case if a post violates the Terms of Use and should be removed. However; we must all make some allowances for the ebb and flow of human interaction. Successfully navigating the "gray" areas which allow friendly dialog to take place while not allowing the noise to drown out the signal is the mark of a good moderator.
When there is ambiguity or reasonable basis for doubt as to whether a post should be removed, we favor inclusion over exclusion or, in other words, allowing participants to express their views without interference. At the same time, we expect participants to be civil and comply with our basic rules of conduct.
Are replies to deleted posts supposed to be removed, too?
A good rule of thumb is that if the post can "stand alone" within the TOU, it should remain. Example: a reply to a deleted message that states "I agree" makes no sense on its own, however; one that says "the o/s is 5.5 million and the float is 4.5 million" still makes sense. Delete the former but not the latter.
I get the whole off topic bit, but if someone says "Good morning" am I supposed to delete that, too?
While, technically it could be considered off topic, non-inflammatory, friendly posts are fine in moderation. Remember that a defining trait of a good Moderator is their ability to maintain a high signal:noise ratio.
As a Moderator, you’ll find it’s a very fine balance of keeping the board to discussion of the stock while allowing some, friendly dialog amongst the Users.
Off topic posts that should always be removed is discussion about other Users and/or their motivations for posting on the board, the Moderators and deletions.
What if someone is bashing the same topic over and over again? I think this is spam and should be deleted!
"Topics" are not considered spam. Lead by example and debate the information contained in the posts. As long as there are no TOU violations, the posts need to stay on the board. It’s understood that occasionally a Poster needs to be asked to "move on". If you would like a User’s posts reviewed, please send IHub Admin a private message with links asking for an evaluation.
This poster is always posting in either bold or CAPS and I find it very annoying. He doesn't need to YELL at us. Can't his posts be deleted?
No, neither bold or caps violate the TOU. Everyone has the option to put him on ignore if they don't want to read his messages.
Another Assistant always deletes other Mods’ posts! We are also Mods and know the rules. I don’t think he should do this without at least talking to us first.
It's understood that there is a certain protocol amongst moderating teams. However; a situation of this nature has a much larger underlying problem of either Mods posting TOU violations or Mods removing posts that don'’t violate the rules. If the posts violate the TOU, then they should be removed whether it is discussed among the Mods or not. If a Mod is removing posts that do not violate the TOU, then please send a PM to Admin to discuss this.
This guy has been attacking the company I invest in for 3 years now. I have just taken over the Mod spot and I have a responsibility to defend our investment from people posting this garbage about the company.
Moderators have the same recourse available as any other user when they disagree with the views and comments of other users; respond to the content of the post, or ignore it. In any event, there is no role for the moderator insofar as their moderator duties and privileges are concerned.
I received an email from the IR lady at the company asking me to remove certain posts from the board. I don't think they violate the TOU but she said it was best for the company if this information was not posted on the board. Can I remove them?
The companies discussed on iHub have no standing whatsoever regarding the content on the boards. All opinions are welcome on our boards irrespective of whether they are bullish, bearish, or neutral. The only reason a post should ever be removed by a Moderator is because it violates the TOU.
A Member thinks it is hilarious to post "News" and then go down a couple of spaces and type something like "gotcha". I (and others) find this very annoying. Can I delete these posts?
Yes, they are "off topic", "noise" posts and qualify for removal.
People are coming to our board to attack our company because one of our "longs" says negative things on their board. I think I should delete their posts because they don't care about the company, they are just trying to retaliate against this other User.
Speculation about other’s motives for posting on your board is an exercise in futility as it has no bearing on enforcement of the TOU. There are no requirements in order to post on a stock board other than abiding by the rules of the site. Your conjecture on why the person is posting on your board could be true, but it also may not be. The bottom line is "why" someone posts on the board has no relevance to the exercise of Moderator duties and privileges and should not be part of the dialog or the basis for any Moderator actions. Each user determines for them self the veracity of information they read and the credibility of other Members who post it.
One guy can't post on the board without calling the company a "POS". I think this is vulgar and his posts should be deleted.
The PG13 rule is loosely used as a guideline to what is/isn't acceptable when determining whether a comment is vulgar. The theory is that if society has deemed it appropriate for a 13 year old to hear, it is unlikely that it will be offensive to the majority of Users. This acronym would be considered appropriate in a PG13 movie.
I don't understand why calling the CEO of our company a liar is not considered a personal attack.
The Terms of Use prohibitions of personal attacks covers content about Posters on our site. Members are welcome to post their opinion (positive, negative or neutral) about public figures associated with the company and this is not considered a TOU violation.
The CEO of the company is a member of iHub. I don't understand why I can't remove posts that discuss her as being "off topic" (discussing other Members) or "personal attack" when others say her business practices are shady.
Discussion of public figures associated with a company is appropriate dialog for our stock boards. If one of the principals of the company chooses to post on our site, they do not have the same level of immunity under the "personal attack" provision in the Terms of Use. The bottom line and rule of thumb when it comes to "personal attacks" is that iHub members are protected from them but officers of the companies being discussed are not, even if they are Members. However; Members should still be civil and express their views in a manner that is appropriate for a public forum.
This poster is making libelous claims against our company and its officers! Why can't I remove these posts?
Moderators and Site Admins do not determine that Member posted content is libelous. Members are often of the opinion that a post is libelous, but no Moderator should act based on that opinion. Libel is decided by a judge in a court of law after conducting proper evidentiary hearings. If such a judgment is issued by a court of competent jurisdiction accompanied by an order that such content is to be taken down, iHub will take the matter under advisement. (Note: Interactive computer services such as iHub are immunized from declaratory relief orders, including injunctions. See: See Medytox Solutions, Inc. v. Investorshub.com, Inc., 152 So. 3d 727 (Fla. 4th DCA 2014, Rev. Denied) Otherwise, it is not a matter that Site Admin or Mods can decide. Our only role here is to ensure adherence to the Terms of Use. Anecdotally, quite often the information that some Members allege to be libelous ends up being accurate, which is why neither Site Admins nor Moderators remove posts on the basis of being allegedly false or libelous.
A User is posting "Insider information".
This is a matter for a regulatory agency (i.e. SEC, DOJ) to decide, not Site Admins or Moderators. Our only role here is to ensure adherence to the Terms of Use.
This Poster has received shares from the company to promote their stock. S/he hasn't disclosed this and I think every post should state this.
Until the Member discloses this information publicly, it is not a valid topic for discussion or speculation on the board. It would either be a violation of privacy, personal attack or "off topic" as, without disclosure of this, it is information that was either privately given or pure conjecture on the part of the person posting the information. If the member has in fact been compensated for promoting the company, you may be correct that s/he is required to make disclosure. However; this is a matter for a regulatory agency (i.e. SEC, DOJ) to decide, not Site Admins or Moderatorss. Our only role here is to ensure adherence to the Terms of Use.
This guy is just being annoying! What can I do?!
Being "annoying" is not a TOU violation and is very subjective. If his/her posts don't violate the TOU, please don't remove them. If you want a review of a Member's posts, please send links and a short message detailing how you feel the Member continually violates the TOU to IH Admin.
This person lost money here and is very bitter. All he ever posts is negative stuff about the company and the "longs" are sick of it.
Members are allowed to post on the board(s) of their choice as long as they stay within the Terms of Use. Being positive or negative about a company is not a requirement for any Free Zone boards.
This guy is just posting lies; the stuff he says about the company is NOT true. Why can't I delete those posts?
As a Moderator, your role is to enforce the Terms of Use, not make decisions about the veracity of the information posted. "Truth" is a very subjective term and neither Site Admin nor Mods remove posts based on judgments of this type. Each reader has both the right and obligation to decide for themselves if they feel a post is accurate and its author credible. Additionally, it would be an impossible task for any of us to try to verify as "truthful" the 50,000 posts on the site each day. Again, our only focus, as Site Administrators or Moderators, is adherence to the Terms of Use.
As a participant on the board, the Moderators' recourse is the same as any other Member; to debate the information contained in the post without attacking the Member, or to ignore it. Attack the message, not the messenger.
A Member just posted some great dd (due diligence) on the company and in the very last line he called another Member an idiot for his previous posts. If the majority of the post is okay, why do I have to delete it?
If a post is 99% on topic and 1% personal attack it still needs to be removed. Personal attacks in any form are disrespectful of others and are unwelcome on the site. These types of gratuitous comments also create noise and dilute the quality of the board. When a Member attacks another poster, other participants inevitably feel the need to respond, either agreeing or defending. Then others feel the need to respond to these…and so on and so on ad nauseam. Pretty soon the board has devolved into personal attacks and discussion about other Members, i.e., noise and no signal. There are plenty of other sites that allow these types of posts and it is difficult to find any meaningful content on such sites. The goal at iHub is to have all information, whether positive, neutral or negative, discussed in a civil manner, free of personal attacks.
This does not mean that if someone added off topic content in the post (i.e. Go Bulls! Beautiful day here) that it should be removed.
Someone posted they have information to share but will only do so by email. Is that allowed?
They can say that have some new information and are welcome to share it on the board. They cannot offer to share it by other means, as that is a solicitation and off-topic. If other readers choose to express an interest, they can elect to send a PM if they are a premium Member or an email if the author has placed their email address in their profile. However; discussion on the board of having information but not sharing it or offering to share it by other means is not allowed. The same applies to posting email addresses to request the information. These are discussion boards, not billboards or classified ads.
How far back to do we have to have "old news" discussed about this company? I'm sick of this woman posting about the reverse split that happened two years ago.
Historical information about a company's business practices is considered relevant, on-topic discussion for the board. Many feel that past actions will be indicative of future decisions and discuss this as part of their due diligence.
This guy is bringing up my older messages to show everyone that I was positive a month ago, but changed my mind, and now negative. Is that allowed?
Posts with quotes from and/or links to older messages may be removed when the context of the message is ultimately about another user.
For example, there is rarely a legitimate on-topic reason to reply to a post months or years later asking "so what do you think now?"; That makes the post about the other User not about the company.
Occasionally, someone may reply to or cite an older post for reference information about the company. For example, "the PPS was .002 in January 2012."; That may be an acceptable use if the context is being used as a reference to what was occurring with the company/stock during that time rather than what the other user was thinking at the time.
Again, the context of how it is being used presently is what matters.
A threat was made on the board, how should I handle this?
Threats or messages about physical violence are taken very seriously and Site Admins should be notified in the event this occurs. Please immediately remove the message and send a PM to IH Admin or submit a TOS Report.
Can someone post what was said in a private message if they don't actually copy/paste it?
No. Private messages are just that…"private". Public discussion of the content is inappropriate and violates the site's rules.
Help! There are a few people arguing on the board and I can't delete the posts fast enough.
If you've tried sending a private message, if you are a Subscriber, or posting a polite note on the board (i.e. "time to get back to discussing XYZZ"), then sending a PM to IH Admin or posting on the Q&A Board will likely elicit the quickest response.
This guy never backs up anything he says with proof. We continuously ask for links and he never replies.
Members do not have to provide "proof" when offering their opinions. There is no requirement for Members to substantiate their posts. Veracity of posts and credibility of the author is determined by the reader.
This one lady never uses "IMO" (In My Opinion) – she states everything as if it's fact and it's not!
It is understood that all posts on the site are to be considered opinions. They do not need to indicate this in their posts.
Two of these guys always post to each other in another language. Should I remove these?
Any messages not in English should also include a translation. If it does not, the post can be removed as Off Topic. If you cannot send a private message to the User(s) indicating this, please send a message to IH Admin.
This one guy always changes people's aliases usually to something derogatory. The rest of the post is on topic but this just causes problems.
Users should use the correct alias when addressing another User.
Why are posts that contains press releases or links to the IR site being removed?
Chances are that the press release, a link contained in the press release, or a site linked to in the post or press release contain content that violates iHub's Terms of Service (TOS). More often than not the content personally attacks specific iHub users or violates iHub user privacy. The originators do not trump the iHub rules of conduct, even if it is in a published press release or filing. Quoting or linking to such content as a proxy to to violate iHub's rules could subject the poster to administrative sanctions. If issuers (and posters) do not want content removed from iHub the burden is upon them to ensure that it complies with iHub's rules.
One member posted "fake" news from the company making it look like it was a new PR. None of the wire services, Google nor the company show this news. Can I delete that post?
An intentionally falsified press release with the usual wire service type markings would typically be considered a violation and should be removed. If there is any doubt it can be TOS'd or reported to IH Admin via PM.
One member posted a PR but changed the wording in the news to make it say something completely different. Can I delete that post?
Yes, wire service press releases that have been intentionally altered may be removed. However; posting excerpts or partial press releases do not count as being altered and should not be removed unless the post contains other content that violates the site's rules.
Deletions by Others
I sometimes see deletions by Admin or Mod Squad on the board I moderate but I don’t understand why they were removed. Or why other posts weren’t also?
Site Admins are made aware of posts that violate the TOU through various ways. If you see a random deletion on your board, it most likely came up on the TOS Report. When a Poster uses the "Report TOS Violation" link at the bottom of each post it goes to a report that is reviewed regularly throughout the day. If it isn’t obvious (from this post) that there is a larger issue, the post on the report is evaluated without further review of the board.
Another common cause of post removal is violation of spam rules (posting the same or similar message on more than two boards). Site Admins have many tools to detect this in addition to the TOS Report. It is also often reported on the Question and Answer board and a member of the Mod Squad many times will remove these posts from all boards. Don’t make the assumption that if there is a deletion by an Admin or Mod Squad on your board, that all the surrounding posts were also checked and deemed "ok". Seeing a deletion by Admin or MS is in no way a reflection of other posts. If there are others that violate the TOU, please remove them. Also, please feel free to ask the person who deleted the post the reason. If it was Mod Squad, please send a PM to IHubAdmin.
Additionally, all Users should understand that not all posts are removed by board Moderators or the Mod Squad. Site Admins do (very frequently) remove posts for numerous reasons, many of which are unrelated to the content of the posts (multiple alias, etc.).
It is inappropriate (and considered off-topic) to engage in a public debate on the board regarding the appropriateness of a deleted posts. Take it up with an Admin.
When I’m viewing deletions, what does it mean if it doesn’t show who removed the message?
This was an account that was terminated (most likely as a multiple alias) and all posts were automatically removed.
Another Assistant on the board keeps undermining the rest of us by telling the Posters he didn't delete the message...
... and saying who did delete it. I don't have any problem talking about my deletions or explaining why other Mods deleted something. But, this just seems like he's trying to "point fingers" at the rest of us.
It's likely this is a new or inexperienced Mod who hasn't been exposed to the dynamics of the moderating team previously. If you find this occurring, please let Admin know. We will advise the Mod that any questions he/she is uncomfortable answering regarding deletions should be directed to a Site Admin. It is important that Moderators extend the courtesy of professionalism and exhibit camaraderie when performing their moderator role, including when their individual investment sentiments run contrary to one another.
Another Assistant and I disagree about whether a post should be deleted? He's deleted it and I've restored it 7 times now. What should I do?
In the event that there is a disagreement, please don’t tussle over the post. Please send a PM to Admin or post a note on the Q&A board and either an Admin or Mod Squad will make the decision.
I disagree with some of the deletions the Moderator (or one of the other Assistants) makes. I usually restore them but should I do anything else?
Yes, if you feel you are continually reversing decisions by a specific Mod, please send IHubAdmin a private message with links to some of the posts.
I'm confused, sometimes Admin deletes messages asking another User how many shares they have and sometimes the same kind of message isn't removed?
With 50k+ messages on the site each day, Admin reviews the messages brought to our attention via the Report TOS Violation link at the bottom of each message. Please don't make the assumption that if a post is not removed, it has been reviewed by Admin and deemed "appropriate".
Posts of this nature are a bit of a judgment call. If the message is presented in a friendly, conversational manner, then we favor leaving the message. However, if it's phrased in a disparaging or demeaning way, it should be removed. No matter how the message is presented, if it's received unfavorably (i.e. "none of your business") then both should be deleted. We understand this is a bit ambiguous, so please feel free to hit the Report TOS button or send us a pm if you're unsure.
There is alot more but this is the Most frequently asked ones. There are around 10 more or so topic specific FAQ pages too. Then there is the Mod Handbook.
Fun stuff...
Believe it or not for #1 - Yes there is an issue with stating how many shares you own, but heck, I'm not going to delete posts for that kind of thing. I'm not here to micro manage, I just wanted to clean up the language of the board.
For #2 - OK. Good to know. Thank you.
For #3 - Other companies can be mentioned becaiuse sometimes in a post it is enevitable because it relates to what the poster is trying to get across in the message, BUT if it becomes a droning on about another company, or starts sounding like an advertising of another company, or inappropreate messaging about another company etc... then I'm OK with it. (It becomes a judgement call)
For #4 - AND?????
:)
Good point. My bad.
Good evening all. I would like to first clarify that I did NOT delete ANY messages today. so as for post # 5746, I have no clue what the message was that was deleted as I did not remove anything and at 8:27 P.M this evening is the first time I logged on all day today.
Secondly. I want to acknowledge LC for continuing to bring up the elephant(s) in the room and keeping a "Feet to the fire" view on what the financials in the 10 Q and 10 K forms and such the like had in them regarding the issues that are affecting the company. But that being said, LC can you please do your best to keep out the less than professional remarks towards others and keep things Professional? You have been doing great lately so I would personally like to thank you. I really do appreciate you bringing up the not so pleasant details, but just please do it in a respectful and professional manner. Saying things like "Lets see if Southern can use his noggin to solve this" is slightly antagonistic and leads into posts that get into a less than desirable debate/banter. Like the following in post #5740 That WAS NOT from LC:
"You're obviously having difficulty understanding the above" .
Otherwise, I do appreciate your comments LC, and I don't want to look like I am bashing on you frequently.
I was hoping for a better close today but it will come in due course. Keep the board professional and clean and it will go a long way. Especially to those just coming to the board for the first time.
Thank you to all for taking the time out of your day to post here. Good luck to you all and don't forget to pay the ASK price at all times! :D
Sorry I was not home for the last few hours, but I am surprised and rather happy I only had to remove 3 messages. We seem to be getting better LOL!! However, I need to point out something important to all of us, but I am not going to name names or start singling people out. This request to share DD with everyone and making a VERY big ordeal and multiple messages out of it for DAYS ON END is a bit much.
So I will be very clear and this really, REALLY should be common sense...
IT IS UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL INVESTOR TO DO THE DUE DILIGENCE FOR THEIR OWN INVESTMENTS. WHY?? SIMPLE, BECAUSE NOBODY BUT YOURSELF CAN BE BLAMED FOR EITHER NOT DOING YOUR OWN DD IF THE STOCK GOES DOWN OR IF THE DD OF SOMEONE ELSE IS RELIED ON TOO HEAVILY AND YOU BLAME THE PERSON PROVIDING THE DD WHEN YOU SHOULD BE DOING IT YOURSELF. BY NOT DOING YOUR OWN RESEARCH, IMPLIES THAT YOU ARE EITHER UNWILLING TO DO IT OR SHEAR LAZINESS ON THE PART OF THE ONE(S) WHO WANT ALL THE WORK DONE FOR THEM.
ANYONE who provides ANY DD should be thanked for taking the time out of thier lives/schedule to post DD for the rest of us as well as those who provide links/shortcuts to news or PR's.
so please, enough of this tired argument about providing or not providing DD. It is the responsibility of each AND EVERY SINGLE INVESTOR to do their own DD. EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US!
It's just speculative opinion. There is nothing in writing from any source in any official capacity.
EXAAAAACTLY! It's all Speculation. I hope something happens soon but I've stopped holding my breath. I get too light headed. :-Þ
So where is the news article or press release regarding this buyout? Or is it based on flags and a pre-market buy? I just want to know where this is coming from. It's one thing to say BUYOUT COMING but anyone can say that. Heck, it's been said by several people for weeks now. We need more than that at this point.
Nope.
It is not exactly a TOS violation and I am not here to micro-manage.
I just started removing posts that are off topic or bad mouths others as I have just been given MOD rights and I intend to use them with a bigger picture in mind for this board. I AM NOT going back in time to remove everything offensive prior to this morning. I am going from this point forward. So play nice or have your messages deleted IF they are (But Not limited to) being off-topic or contain any of the following unacceptable behavior: Slander/mock/make fun of/belittle or is offensive, rude, crude, insulting or offensive.
Call it what you want, think of me as you wish. But yeah, DAD's HOME! so play nice! Think of it like this. If I am a new investor looking at this board what will people see? Helpful and useful talk? or a select few having a childish grade school argument where one, then another, engages in useless namecalling and banter that is irrelevant and goes NOWHERE but back and forth.
Hey, you want to chew each other out and slander and mock each other fine then DO IT IN A PRIVATE MESSAGE TO EACH OTHER AND EACH OTHER ONLY!
I have NO clue about the rest of the people on this board, but I for one (And I may be the only one) but I am personally tired of reading about one disliking the other and then this sort of grade school name calling or some form of belittling tactics come out, degrading the board, and those who would like to keep the integrity of it in a more professional light.
So yeah, NOTE TO ALL MEMBERS, AND I DO MEAN ALL! PLEASE POST RELEVANT NON OFFENSIVE POSTS WITHOUT ANY NAME CALLING OR BELITTLING OF OTHERS. LET'S PLEASE PLEASE KEEP THIS COURTEOUS AND RATHER PROFESSIONAL. ANY GRIEVANCES SHOULD BE DEALT WITH THROUGH PERSONAL MESSAGES. PLEASE AND THANK YOU.
Can we all please stay on topic and NOT have messages that personally attack others or their intelligence. PLEASE?
The thrill of the wait! I say it will be out on the 23'rd
I'd like to request being one of the moderators. If one of you who are currently a moderator, but don't really want to be one or don't really care to be, please remove yourself so that I may take the available slot please.
Thank you.
Well, if it does come out today, I'll be 1 day off again. ;)
That's all fine and well. But that thinking is not practical at this stage of things. The last report is a damming one in regards to thier finances. BUT the more alarming thing is that the management does not appear overly concerned. Think about it... The report says that they are in a substantial debt and yet the managament hires someone and is carrying on like status-quo mode. So SOMETHING is up. The question is, how far along is this negotiaion if there even is one. It could also be that mgmt has another way that they want to raise funds to carry on looking for possibly a bigger buyout amount the longer they hold on. And that means... Anyone?, Anyone? It means a.... Anyone? LC? You been pounding the table on this one on more than one occasion.. What's the solution LC? SAY IT LOUD AND PR... no wait. Just make it quick. I don't want to blow up the board!
:)
You guys think too low. And NO if they offer 600 Million I am the LAST IN LINE! This is a better product and is worth as much if not more than the $1.6 Bil. they paid out to another company or whatever it was.
You guys think too low. And NO if they offer 600 Million I am the LAST IN LINE! This is a better product and is worth as much if not more than the $1.6 Bil. they paid out to another company or whatever it was.
Meh, Who knows. Maybe my tomorrow prediction might actually end up happening. (I'd freak if it does.) ;)
** This is a response to an earlier message **
Unless they have Autism. Some Autistic people are compulsive buyers. Like me for example.
Wow! SWEET! What a coincidence, I could use a lawnmower! Electric or gas? :)
Yes. "WHEN" they get the approval. It's possible there may be NO takeover also. If the execs decide against it for whatever possible reason, but it is a variable that must also be considered.
Well, that's my 3'rd and last message for the day.
Oh and a separate side note, I have just written an e-book that is not related to the stock market or business. It is simply a quite vulgar but funny short story. I'm working on the audiobook now as well as in print in the near future. If you'd like to check it out, here's the link.
https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/824378
The interview can be found here...
https://www.smashwords.com/interview/Jackshit
This is not intended to sell you anything, as it is not yet available and will not be until the 9'th of June (6 days from today) anyways, hope my predictions are wrong and the price goes much higher, but I am going on history of watching the price over the last little while.
Take care everyone!! Talk to you again 3 times tomorrow! :)
The message count will go up with the release of news and/or rising share prices. The reports come out the price goes up as does the chatter. The rest will follow.
I've actually been thinking about that. I am feeling the share price will go to 0.0421 by Friday IF it is released. The close of Friday I see it at 0.0441. But if the report is favorable, then Monday will bring out the shorts and profit-takers in the A.M but come 10:15 10:30 the 3's will never be seen again. Close of Monday shares are at 0.0492.
Any buyout news will not happen till August at the earliest. Why do I say this? Because the company buying out all the other companies needs a break to recoup the over 1 Billion they just spent. And HOW will they do it? by using other peoples money. THAT SAID, HOWEVER, they will not wait too long to recoup all of their money spent as they know others will sneak in and put in offers too like Pfizer. Likely also because Pfizer is IN one of the buildings WITH OBMP. And HOW do they use other peoples money to buy OBMP (Or mostly other money) BY letting interest accrue in their money accounts or other investments, this way they will have most if not all of their principal left untouched and still have a healthy amount of money in their coffers. Because everyone knows good business is to use other peoples money to get what you want and interest on whatever amount they have for a couple months or 3 months is going to do it. Not to mention the extra month after the deal is announced. The payment will need to be negotiated and therefore more time for interest to accrue which means more of other peoples money so if talks hit a snag, there is some extra incentive that can be offered at NO SKIN OFF THE BUYERS NOSE!
Simple ya?
YA!
So this is my prediction. Will it happen in August? I feel July is a bit too soon for Eli Lilly as they just spent more than 1 Billion. Pfizer is interested, but I don't think they can hold a candle to Eli in an offer shootout.
MEH, My prediction and 2c.
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Hope so. Share price goes to 0.0406 at the close that day.
That's my prediction. ;)
I am again predicting that the Q-10 will be out next week. But this time it will be out on Wednesday and it will be release DURING the trading day so as to inject life into the stock as opposed to releasing it after the closing bell.
That is my prediction.
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In the end, I think we will be fine. Too much is happening for it to be overly bad, I mean look, phase 2 would not have even been tried if it is all that doom and gloom! What is the next report due out? Also, I have a feeling that MGMT knows this is not the best report, but I think a PR may on the way that may have something within it to smooth over the worst of the news. I have a feeling there is another report coming but a PR should come with something to help inject the price even higher than today's close.
Is it just me, or is nobody reading the report? Please tell me I am missing something really good here because..... Really... All the BOOMS, BOOYA's AND Retirement talks should be put to a back-burner for a sec here... 40+ pages in of actually reading it and .. Tell me I am missing something cuz whoever painted this... It's FUGLY so far!
Would they put any talks like that into the report? Or is the report mainly an accounting one? If they mention anything like that (Takeover) in the report then who knows what will happen LC.
I am not a pro trader by any stretch. I just came into $3333.34 from when my father passed away and used the 1/3'rd of his death benefits from his workplace to invest so I could make the money grow instead of buying something useless or stupid or just use it to pay a miniscule portion of a credit card bill. have faltered alot along the way and had a few margin calls, but I am just trying to learn as I go and make the most out of a sad situation both of what happened in the family and to try and turn around my own situation here as well.