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Well there is your trading range, .0098 - .0103
Good for a few days, then by Friday it's in the low .009s
Breaking into the .008s the following week, then the .007s
Where it will stay until March, then on anticipation it will rise back to the .0098 - .0103 range.
When the 15th hits and there is no CC news, the collapse will begin, typical scam penny stocks don't release timely news, the stock price will have hit the skids, way before you so-called shareholders find out about the CC deal collapse.
Bad news is coming, it always does with gzfx, BIG TIME BAD NEWS and this time the spin-masters don't have enough lipstick to dress up the ol pig to make it appear presentable. IMO.
To date gzfx is a 100% failure when it comes to completely doing what they imply they will do.
I fully expect the same will happen again, those with lots of shares will lose lots of money.
There is always some snafu, some hitch, it's usually a big one, but it's always something, one thing that does not stop, is the dilution, and with the gagged TA, they can dump more undetected, it's a great scam, in my opinion, think about it, you never ever get to know the actual outstanding share count, EVER, you wait and wait and wait, only to find out what it was months ago, LOL.
ad campaign that millions of dollars disappeared into, was unseen by hundreds of millions of Americans and did not produce any sub numbers to speak of. The ceo did not speak of them.
The super bowl ad, hype on this board and the others, was a complete flop that also went unseen by hundreds of millions of super-bowl watchers, no subs to speak of again. Millions of dollars lost.
The Howard Stern show flop
AND LOTS MORE
For those that don't know, this is the second website anxiously awaited for, the last one was hailed by members of this board and others, that it was a big success, LOL. They will say the same about the next, if it ever appears, with the collapse of the CC deal, the new website will mysteriously disappear, just like millions of dollars have to unknown consultants. For mostly unknown duties, vague at best. It's all in the filings.
$21 million dollars produced 3000 subs, do the math on that blunder, the talk is big this time around, but history says that shareholders are about to take another beating.
You gzfx er ah shareholders would be well advised to sign-up for all the gzfx alerts you can, pay close attention to level 2 and sales, follow these boards at all times during the market plus an hour before and at least 1 after.
When the news of the CC deal collapse leaks out, the exits are going to get ugly, the first few out will only lose about 20% more. The next 40% and those that are not informed will be out between 80-90% MORE. It will stay that way for at least another year, if it don't bankrupt the company or any number of other shareholder disasters.
That is above and beyond the what you are down so far!
Not paying full attention to this timebomb, may prove the biggest mistakes some of you have ever made, LIFETIME.
Note to pvc, gzfx is going down to at least .008, the dilution continues, while the red shareholders hold hold hold
A slow and steady rise from the beginning of March, may get you back to these levels.
How low can gzfx go in the meantime? my guess is that .007 is doable.
Yall keep holding though, that's what you do, And
Keep calling me names like children do, but try to remember, gzfx is a sub-penny stock and it's not my fault.
No matter how you would like to blame your problems on me, jf loves it, they are not my problems, and not my fault.
Have you look at a 1 day chart?, 5 day chart?, 2 week chart?, 1 month chart?, 2 month chart?
all down, that's not my fault, try to get a grasp on reality, maybe it's time for you to band together and try to get jf reveal what the current O/S numbers are?
BTW it's likely that the next Q will not have the share numbers, making yall wait another 2 months for the K, which will show the numbers up to 12/31/05 only, LMAO
pepi, exactly, nothing but made up pumping, and fools eat that up.
Yes, perhaps we can pick board members to not only ask the questions, but others to answer them as well. Plenty volunteers around here doing just that all day long anyway.
Far as that goes, we can get ihub board members to do most of jf's job, then he can stick to the one he does the best, increasing the outstanding share count while hiding the numbers from shareholders.
Note to Sentinel, you are wrong about your comment about "finding out what the outstanding numbers are when the next filing K or Q comes out". You will not know the outstanding shares numbers when the next filing Q or K comes out. It's significant when the dilution is in the hundreds of millions more per quarter.
When it does come out, you will only know the numbers of the period ending 12/31/05, any dilution from 9/30 to 12/31 can be averaged out and carried forward, as more representative of actual numbers. Anyone who actually believes that the O/S is 1.2 billion, and further posts the same, has taken a permanent leave of common sense.
Like the man said:
Dead money for 6 more weeks, dead and dying money, the dilution of the past is swimming with the dilution of the present, with a shareprice under a penny, that is a guarantee of more dilution to come.
The most anyone can hope for now, is a spike up, and that will be answered with a major sell-off, it's likely that the company/cd holder will lead the charge concerning any selling.
AND YOU WILL HAVE TO WAIT 5-6 MORE WEEKS FOR THAT SPIKE
At some point even the most thick-head shareholders will have to figure that any cc news is already factored in.
Hey whiterabbit, it's not worth anything, like most of what you post.
CAN gzfx hit .007 before March???? Stay tuned!!!
goldleader posted his stuff numerous times a day, day after day before you finally did something.
Mine appeared once a day, and you leapt on them like a self righteous super hero for the pumpers
Will that help you to delete my posts without a reason, unlike what you do now, you make up a reason.
One post a day, no matter if you read it before or not, is not spam, if you think it is, you are way behind in your deletions.
Dead money boys girls, for another 6 weeks.
Dilution will continue through that, remember, next time you get to know what the dilution is, you don't really get to know what the dilution is, cuz that news, will be over 3 months old.
All the earmarks of a scam, check you bs dilution number of 1.2 billion, that's dated 9/30, have you seen a date lately, LOL
The numbers won't show up in the Q, you have to wait till the K, LMAO, you bagholders are so screwed IMO, you don't have a clue.
While it may be admirable that you help the ceo do his job, when are you going to help shareholders and future investors do their job, how about getting a group of shareholders together to ask the ceo what the current O/S is? and ask him to ungag the TA so shareholders can do some real DD?
But no, instead you will change the subject, just like a paid shill would, and ask me what my other ID's etc were.
But to answer your question:
This is the only id I have ever used on ihub. I am entitled to one, I only use one.
I have never posted with multiple id's, ever, that goes for RB too.
A ceo that hides the share counts from shareholders is hiding the share dumping from shareholders. That IMO is not healthy for shareholders and certainly hampers shareholders from doing any close to appropriate DD.
And in the same vein, a board that erases posts that do not agree with pump and hype posts, the same posts that are supported by not censuring, is not a healthy board for shareholders either. This board now erases my posts based on nothing more than the fact I post contrary to the blind pumping, or for perhaps some reasons involving greed and/or ego.
This board is full of opinions, why is mine erased, that in my opinion is supporting what may be fraud.
The following post continues to be erased:
LIKE I SAID
gzfx is dead money for 7 more weeks, at which time it may spike up a little and instantaneously drop back down. OR IT COULD ALL COME CRASHING DOWN ANY SECOND, I hope your risk/reward ratio is in check.
Meanwhile it looks like the share dumps continue and the opportunities to ship money to unknown consultants increases with every little worthless PR
YES gzfx IS HAVING ANOTHER GREAT WEEK AND AS USUAL IT MEANS NOTHING BUT PAIN FOR SHAREHOLDERS, to more than a few knowledgedable investors, gzfx has tons of the earmarks of a scam.
What a lot of wanna be rich traders need to understand, is that in the otc.bb, a majority of the time, in the end, there is no correlation, between what a company does and what a stock does.
Shareholders often turn out to be victims, suckers if you will, they put up the money, the company builds the business, and shareholders get reverse split from their money, diluted from their money, and/or spun-off from their money. The company spins the asset into private ownership, done all the time in the otc.bb and there is nothing shareholders can do about it.
JF DOES NOT NEED YOUR VOTE TO DO ANY OF THE ABOVE (see the filings).
Also please note all the new curious spin-off language (you don't see that in normal employee stock plans or in any other gzfx employee stock plan S-8) in the new S-8, Employee Plan Registration
gzfx DD around here is a joke!
It's always next week, next month, next year with this diluted stock, the truth is, that even with the best of news, any new spike will be stunted and come right back down, just like all extremely diluted otc.bb penny stocks do.
Any more bad news about the CC deal will cause an unprecedented stampede for the exits, permanently wiping out shareholder's millions of dollars.
Just remember, by time you find out about the past dilution, it will already be way worse.
otc.bb ceo tricks, keep shareholders uniformed while the paid shills and so-called true longs keep putting lots of lipstick on the pig.
You will not even find out about the dilution from 9/30/06 to 12/31/06 until April, and over 3 more months of dilution will have occured, LMAO at the pumpers and your so-called DD
THIS STOCK WILL PROBABLY NEVER SEE .02 AGAIN, if it it does, it will not hold it for even a full day.
LIKE I SAID THIS STOCK IS DEAD MONEY FOR 7 WEEKS, AT THE START OF MARCH IT WILL STILL BE RIGHT HERE, OR SUB-PENNY, ANY BAD NEW?, IT'S PERMANENT WIPE-OUT
Break-out soon
The chart looks great
Wait till monday
Next week is our week
Prepare for lift-off.
YADA YADA YADA YADA, ad infinitum
AND NOTHING HAPPENS, EVEN WITH LOTS OF NEWS, OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN
LET THIS BE A LESSON TO YOU, NO DD IS CLOSE TO COMPLETE WITHOUT AN ACCURATE ACCOUNTING OF THE TRUE AND CURRENT O/S, ceo won't tell you what it is?????? RUN, DON'T WALK RUN, TO THE NEAREST EXIT.
MARK THIS POST, CUZ IF YOU DON'T, YOU WILL LOSE AGAIN AND AGAIN
Looks like your spin to me, has nothing to do what I or even you was talking about, spin to change and control the subject, to dance around and avoid the truth.
Not only is that old news, those numbers are worthless to avoid any takeover with current diluted O/S AND especially and, there is nothing in there that will protect shareholders from an A/S increase, a reverse split, or a spin-off of the gzfx assets into another company, with all the new language, I truly believe that is what is to come. If not all of the above.
I'm not the only one who notices how you always rush to change the subject with all pertinent gzfx questions or points that go against your agenda, attack all who ask questions and/or imply anything, how you and a few others, sentinel is one, ride this board and make comments about anything that is not a pump and use name calling tactics, however blatant or subtle, as well as avoid addressing any issues, like my salient points below and far below.
On sentinels behave, he also seems to question a little, but it's just an act IMO, it's just to play another side of what I see as a controlled agenda, he never actually does anything or questions anything, he just pretends he does, like you agent, pretending to be a NFLX sub. AND
LIKE I SAID
gzfx is dead money for 7 more weeks, at which time it may spike up a little and instantaneously drop back down. OR IT COULD ALL COME CRASHING DOWN ANY SECOND, I hope your risk/reward ratio is in check.
Meanwhile it looks like the share dumps continue and the opportunities to ship money to unknown consultants increases with every little worthless PR
YES gzfx IS HAVING ANOTHER GREAT WEEK AND AS USUAL IT MEANS NOTHING BUT PAIN FOR SHAREHOLDERS, to more than a few knowledgedable investors, gzfx has tons of the earmarks of a scam.
What a lot of wanna be rich traders need to understand, is that in the otc.bb, a majority of the time, in the end, there is no correlation, between what a company does and what a stock does.
Shareholders often turn out to be victims, suckers if you will, they put up the money, the company builds the business, and shareholders get reverse split from their money, diluted from their money, and/or spun-off from their money. The company spins the asset into private ownership, done all the time in the otc.bb and there is nothing shareholders can do about it.
JF DOES NOT NEED YOUR VOTE TO DO ANY OF THE ABOVE (see the filings).
Also please note all the new curious spin-off language (you don't see that in normal employee stock plans or in any other gzfx employee stock plan S-8) in the new S-8, Employee Plan Registration
That's sounds exactly like what a paid shill would say!
Are you telling me that JF has your vote to reverse split?, and he has your vote to increase the authorized? If you even had a vote, YOU DON'T, WOULD YOU VOTE TO SPIN THE GZFX ASSETS OFF INTO PRIVATE OWNERSHIP????
It seems you are in hurry to post like a fool, which is exactly the kind of posts paid shills would make.
Their is a reason the stock is a penny, AND DILUTION IS THAT REASON, we all know the way you think and especially how you try so hard to keep others thinking the way you want them to.
IS THIS WHERE THE NAME CALLING COMES IN? your so subtle, so clever.
I have watched you rabbit/phantom, the prof, sentinel and others proclaim your undying and never questioning support through all the dilution, always challenging those who imply there is dilution (and always being wrong about the dilution) but never questioning JF at all, EVER, IT MAKES NO SENSE, unless of course yall are paid pumpers, then it makes all the sense in the world.
TO SAY THAT JF HAS YOUR VOTE TO BUILD AN ENTERTAINMENT BUSINESS AT ANY COST TO SHAREHOLDERS IS INSANE, OR CLEVERLY CONTRIVED.
LIKE I SAID
gzfx is dead money for 7 more weeks, at which time it may spike up a little and instantaneously drop back down. OR IT COULD ALL COME CRASHING DOWN ANY SECOND, I hope your risk/reward ratio is in check.
Meanwhile it looks like the share dumps continue and the opportunities to ship money to unknown consultants increases with every little worthless PR
YES gzfx IS HAVING ANOTHER GREAT WEEK AND AS USUAL IT MEANS NOTHING BUT PAIN FOR SHAREHOLDERS, to more than a few knowledgedable investors, gzfx has tons of the earmarks of a scam.
What a lot of wanna be rich traders need to understand, is that in the otc.bb, a majority of the time, in the end, there is no correlation, between what a company does and what a stock does.
Shareholders often turn out to be victims, suckers if you will, they put up the money, the company builds the business, and shareholders get reverse split from their money, diluted from their money, and/or spun-off from their money. The company spins the asset into private ownership, done all the time in the otc.bb and there is nothing shareholders can do about it.
JF DOES NOT NEED YOUR VOTE TO DO ANY OF THE ABOVE (see the filings).
Also please note all the new curious spin-off language (you don't see that in normal employee stock plans or in any other gzfx employee stock plan S-8) in the new S-8, Employee Plan Registration
Hey wick, who is your replacement going to be?
Posted by: wickw50
In reply to: crashtheline who wrote msg# 80174 Date:1/17/2006 12:22:55 AM
Post #of 81734
crash, My reputation is on the line...this will be a good week...or I resign as moderator....nuf said...
SHAREHOLDERS xan, I disagree, and I was not calling you anything, it's if the shoe fits, if JF spins off the assets, what's left will be suckers IMO.
Like I said, gzfx is dead money for at least 7 more weeks, unless it turns into dying money.
The dilution continues, JF's oft repeated email is deceiving at best, especially in the light so-called true longs are portraying it.
The new 400 million shares do not need shareholder approval, and anyone doing DD will see that in the filings.
Also the statement about not a single share being released/sold (paraphasing here), while true, is also deceptive by nature, fresh shares continue to dilute the market as I type this, hardly a week has went by without extreme dilution continuing to flood the market.
Which exactly explains the pathetic shareprice, and will continue to do so.
I suspect that the 10K will show almost 3 billion shares outstanding as of 12/31/05, with the real number being over 3 billion and the dilution is continuing until the whole of the authorized is gone.
Expect more news, esp. the fluff and worthless news like the last two, the kind where lots of money can disappear to unknown consultants, the same kind that the bagholders can pump for them, so that they can continue to dump into volume, like they always have, like they always will.
The K will be delayed as long as possible cuz it's the news that contains the info that shows the truth about the scam, the Q will be more timely, it's news will not reveal the true nature of the extent of the damage to shareholders.
Expect news soon after the current flurry of fluff news ends, that talk about either a share increase, a reverse split, and/or a spin-off which will, at least in part, take the company private and leave the SHAREHOLDERS</B> holding the stock. All three are possible.
For Sentinel: I agree, while it's not right to laugh at other stock market finacial misfortunes, when the same who lose a ton, continuously slam those who try to show them a different perspective and or enlighten them to the dark side of the otc.bb, IT'S AWFUL HARD NOT TO. LOL
PS, I HAVE BEEN SAYING FOR YEARS THAT THEIR IS NO SUCH THING AS A TRUE LONG IN THE OTC.BB, it's a great oxymoron though.
Only JF knows the true O/S, and he is not telling, I will leave to each to wonder why? LOL, on another note, are you guys preparing a going away party for wick, no one can call this a good gzfx week, unless it's like I said, shareholders are so conditioned now that anything under a 20% loss is a good gzfx week. You have been a sweel moderator boss wick, I would hate to see you go if I did not like to see those honor their word even more.
To cashfreeze: what's your agenda, to make money at any cost?
To crashtheline: Too bad you will never find out who those consultants are, nor what they did, you will see millions of dollars disappear them though, just like before.
gzfx baggies keep spewing "It's obvious" this and " it's obvious" that, without any support as to why it's obvious.
Most of you obviously don't have a clue, the only thing obvious is that 90% of gzfx shareholders are in the red and posters like jrod can claim anything they want, most of which cannot be supported by any posting facts.
He claims all kind of flipping prowess, not a single post saying that he is selling here (when he supposedly sold) nor any posts saying that he just sold, all hindsight claims, a common occurance here on anonymous message boards.
And all can notice how he has even hedged that by trying to convince all that he is a long, LOL. Sure pal sure.
Another obvious thing is that the selling is going to be extreme on any spike, with the company/CD holder doing more of it than all gzfx shareholders combined, just like it's always been.
Please clarify what you consider a good week!
For the last 2 months, a good week in gzfx was to not go down!
It's all relative, and easy to spout, then hedge like crazy, you could say that gzfx only went down 20%, so it was a good week! Meaning, unless you clarify, your words mean nothing.
gzfx is dead money for 7 more weeks, AT LEAST.
and any buying, if and when?, will be answered by company/cd holder share dumping, just like the last 3 months, just like it's always been.
It's entirely likely that buying on any news or during the 2nd week of March, and if gzfx goes up (dilution of apprx 3 billion now makes that less likely), selling will see it come back down again.
And any news of CC dumping gzfx will of course be the biggest shareholder slaughter a stock has seen in 3 years.
If you look at the news/agreement about the roll-out delay, you will seen that Chip signed it on Dec 22, the aggreement was dated Dec 28 and the world found out about on Jan 5, 2006 (that's 14 days, at least two weeks.)
The new agreement says CC only has to give 10 days notice and it's the ballgame for gzfx, if you look at the above numbers about dates, you can clearly see that the untimely way gzfx deseminates news about relevant company business (or non business in the above case), it's entirely likely that the deal will be officially dead and over for a few days (even after giving the 10 day notice), by time the gzfx true saps find out about it.
The CC deal could be dead and stinking for almost a business week before shareholders even find out the 10 notice was given 2 weeks ago.
The hidden dilution and the tentative collapse of the CC agreement means that wannabee rich folks, are actually playing with TNT.
"I WOULD NOT BE HERE IF I WASN'T SENT HERE" LOL
Don't listen to satan so much, then you won't end up donating to scams, LOL
So the typical gzfx shareholder is a whack-job??? Who sent you here?, do you mean to this board?? or to gzfx?
Where are you when you are not here?, LOL, and are you sent there too?
zolas and martymax, two typical gzfx genius', LOL
hey marty, I seen someone has your number, is selling oil leases or bridges, don't give him all your money, unless you are sent there, save the rest for gzfx.
Did you friends and family get sent here too?, did you help with a little nudge? LOL
zolax, please quit living in your tiny mind, do you fancy that you speak for everyone now? LOL
Freudian slip Marty? yeah we know what you are whack-job???, the truth is revealed, like you say, you are demon, "an angle in training" & "I am a demonslyer"
By the way, I would like to help you out, Which way did you come in? and take your space cadet buddy Zolax with you!, LOL
Message to Thor71, wait a week and buy for .0045 euros.
PRAY marty????, like you do, for money?
gzfx, a dead and stinking stock, has now dropped under the lower bollinger band, expect more downside... http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.scan?s=TSA[t.t_eq_s]![t.e_eq_n]![as0,20,tv_gt_40000]![tc1_ge_a....
breaking the lower bollinger is never a good sign, but the baggies are still posting, just like everyday, that they are buying more, LOL It's getting so, that the talk is almost as cheap as gzfx stock!
and to martyMAC, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
zolaxative, instead of running off at the mouth concerning me?, listen to your kids, bet they aren't losing their allowance on penny stock scams.
gzfx, always next week, next month, next year, it's been that way for 2 years now, LOL, nothing will change, except the O/S
martyMAC, how much you down so far?, how many times have you average down so far? How many times have you posted you are buying more??? LOL, that's UNREAL DUDE & your purpose driven life is to support scam stocks by donation? How admiral, you can always keep those blinders on, the ones called greed, and then plead ignorance in 90 days. Then check yourself in to a good rehab.... SA = Scams Anonymous
Do the math, 27 stores (according to this board), 3300 new subs, 2 1/2 months of trial. 27 times 75 equals 2025 store days to gather 3300 subs.
That says that each CC store is getting 1.6 subs per day, or 11 a week or 45 a month.
AT WHAT COST TO GZFX?
Is it worth it for CC? I think not, that is why the agreement language was clean-up, especially with an eye for termination, including dropping the axe-notice to 10 days.
It's clear to some the party is over.
To those who now consider themselves stuck and those that choose to believe in gzfx at any cost, the real pain may still be coming!
IGNORE ME, SLAM ME, OR POST CUTSEY TO ME TO HEAR YOURSELF SPEAK, VIA SENTINEL, IT WON'T CHANGE A THING.
Yeah, remember it well, make sure you follow the "Top Ten Movie Reviews" link to DVD RENTAL and see what they say about gzfx or better yet, don't say.... http://dvd-rental-review.toptenreviews.com/
Pumpers post a lot of questionable posts, number one on the list is "I bought more today, I'm buying more tomorrow, etc etc etc" If 1/2 of that were true, then no one could even question the O/S, if someone said it was 10 billion, instead of the likely 3 billion.
Now how about gzfx's service to it's few subscribers... anyone can say anything about the their service, LOL, without ever even having subscribed, but hey, why not deal with the verifiable AND CURRENT truth, lets see what consumer reports has to say about gzfx.... http://www.wistv.com/Global/story.asp?S=4351863
There is one fact about gzfx that outshines any other facts and will continue to do so, no matter how good any news is.
This fact has been in place for over 18 months now and will continue on into the future.
gzfx is a FULLY DILUTED STOCK, the shareprice is proof of that, the new existing Convertible Debenture Financing guarantees that DILUTION will own this stock for a long, LONG time to come.
And no matter how cutesy some of you post, IT'S NOT MY FAULT!
That's hilarious..."JF has a knack for pulling things together in supreme style"
Like the the Adsouth ad campaign?, like the Stern show flop?, like the SuperBowl complete embarassment?, like the over 5 million dollars disappearing to unknown consultants for unknown duties?
Pray tell please list these things that JF has pulled together in supreme style? oh & btw, the jury is still out on the CC deal.
By the time any good news comes, shareholders will likely be hoping the shareprice makes it back to a penny, but alas, if it does it won't stay there long, shareholder selling will be competing with company/GGI share dumping for an exit point.
To date gzfx has dumped an extreme amount of shares before, during and after anything that even smelled like good news, or bad as far as that goes. It's likely that the O/S is over 3 billion now.
Remember 20% losses erase 40% gains as does 50% losses 100% gains.
It's obvious that the company and/or GGI continue to dump, probably signaling the coming CC disappointment, but maybe not?, who could tell, gzfx is always dumping shares, better than anything else, that's what they do.
So the dumping by the company and/or GGI signals either the CC deal failure, or a reverse split/authorized increase, either way nothing good can come of it.
And even if any of the above is off base, this is dead money at least, and likely daily/weekly diminishing money for at least two months.
Hope some of you lost only your money and did not get your friends and family to lose their money too.
The gzfx future is not going to get any better, it's time for some to face some facts. gzfx has always 100% disappointed when it comes to shareholders.
No matter how good the news that may be coming, gzfx will dilute it to oblivion, just like they always 100% have.
And I know that you Mig have been singing the same tune, although a lot weaker now, you used to doubt the dilution, now you only post that there is no way of knowing.
Well some of us know that the OS was 1.4 billion just a week after the 9/30 number filed as 1/2 billion, some of us also know what you have always been in denial about the dilution, yet were proven quite wrong, and with pretty darn accurate numbers. We faxed the TA and got the actual O/S, and then the big boy closed that avenue.
Also, if the CD holder has not been dumping, then gzfx shareholders are in a world of hurt, LOL, cuz there is then massive dumping yet to come.
I notice that as usual you ignored the rest of my post and only came in sideways with maybe reasoning, but there are bigger forces at work. I will agree with you, the CC deal Seems Huge, but history may just repeat itself and be just one more round of gzfx disappointment.
Have you ever even stopped to think???, with this so-called huge cc deal, and the almost unprecented interest levels, what explains the shareprice???? Please don't ever post to me again if you are going to say MM manipulation or day traders, evidently some are that ignorant, but let's hope, not you! So what is it???? LOLOL We know what it is, don't we, baggies can't admit, so how about just a knowing wink?
WINK WINK WINK WINK WINK about 3 billion WINKS
That webcast was a paid pump and dump type interview, there was nothing casual about it and nothing slipped out. It was totally rehearsed, with a script.
It was designed to to put positive spin on the stock, so that buyers would buy, while the company and/or the CD holder dumps stock.
It's what penny stocks do, it's also what scams do, is gzfx a scam, who could know for sure?, except JF and the CD holder. who by the way, can short the stock while dumping the stock. Before you flip, calm down a second. Don't freak out on me, go read the filings, it's all there.
Gagged TA, Convertible Debentures, stocks going to what they call consultants to pay for services in lieu of money, paying for interviews, constant dilution, unknown consultants receiving over $5 million dollars for unclear duties, otc.bb stock, NV registered stock, ceo placing the company on the Berlin Exchange where it can be shorted easily, and more, all earmarks of a scam.
Oh and debt free????, that's a laffer. Read the filings, steady increasing debt and the debt was over $20 million last filing over 3 months ago, there is no filing saying anything different.
It would seem that someone is lying, someone keeps posting that JF said that gzfx was debt free??? But the filings say different, someone also said that company said 7000 subs, but the filings say different...3000. SOMEONE IS DEFINITELY LYING, AND WHAT POSTERS SAY, THAT JF SAYS, DOES NOT MATCH WHAT THE FILINGS SAY. SOMEONE IS LYING, THAT IS CLEAR.
So evidently not many believe the filings, except of course when it comes to the Outstanding Share count. gzfx True Longs readily believe the 1.2 billion number, despite a history of constant dumping, right up until the gagged TA of 9/30.
Lose your play money, even lose your life savings if you have to, but don't talk your friends and relatives into a stock, that has a lot of the earmarks of a scam.
Is it true that CC has sent out a memo to store managers to casually inform their employees of the dangers of investing in stocks and penny stocks, that may seem like CC has ties to?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, wonder what that means?
It's funny how you people strictly live by the Outstanding shares numbers of 1.2 billion, reminding everyone that those are the only numbers that should be used as those are in the filings, YADA YADA YADA, even in the face of known company weekly share selling, CONSTANT INCREASING DILUTION, and now a CD holder that has total clearance to dump all the shares he can get his hands on (& short the stock at the same time). Not to even mention the obvious proof of a depressed shareprice as evidence of dilution.
But when come to subs numbers, the sky's the limit, there is no amount posted that can be too high for most on this board, not many object or even try to refute insane numbers like your break-even sub-number posts. Word from the company shows 3000 subs at the end of Sept, new word from the company shows 110% increase over a sub number taken out of the quarter ending in Sept.
When it comes to sub numbers, there is no ceiling around here.
When it comes to share counts, there is no dilution around here.
YOU GUYS ARE REALLY YOUR OWN WORST ENEMIES, SETTING YOURSELVES UP FOR BIG BIG DISAPPOINTMENT, but hey, blame me okay, cuz that's what you do!
Read the filings, see the shareprice.
Do you think the $15 million loan came without dilution?, how about the gagged TA?
Besides you played the same tune last year when you were told that the dilution was ongoing, you kept posting & defending the old numbers. WELL THE DILUTION WAS ONGOING, AND IS STILL ONGOING.
YOU GUYS WANTED TO PRETEND THE NUMBERS WERE 400 MILLION, filing came out....they were 900 million, then you wanted to pretend they were 900 million, filing came out....they were 1.2 billion, IT'S THE SAME OLD BIASED TUNE WITH YOU. BUT IT'S DIFFERENT NOW, convertible debenture financing and a filing spelling out the dilution.
Care to explain the shareprice????, come on now, use that head, think it through, unless it's games you intend to play. With the extreme interest in this stock, with hundreds of investors claiming to own hundreds of millions of share, that they are not selling, THE DILUTION EXACTLY EXPLAINS THE SHAREPRICE.
Spend some time questioning those who claim irrational sub numbers then you can say you perspective is not biased.
How much time did you spend trying to reel those posters in that claimed the roll-out was a done deal or that CC needed to give a 30 day notice or the deal was on???? If none or close to none, then don't post to me, don't ask me to provide you anything & don't ask me questions, cuz you then are tainted and worthless as to honest investing information.
& gzfx MONEY IS DEAD MONEY FOR THE BETTER PART OF TWO MONTHS.
What do you think the O/S is right now? NEVERMIND YOU'LL EITHER NOT ANSWER OR SAY 1.2 BILLION. But some of us who were in on the faxing of the TA, before the ceo gagged that avenue too, know that 1 week after 9/30 the O/S broached 1.4 billion.
200 million a week dilution since 9/30 is not an impossibility.
Any money in gzfx will be dead money for the better part of 2 months, any news/PR's will be met with extreme dilution, just like all the other news/PR's have been to date.
While it's insanity to call oneself a true long with any stock in the otc.bb, or more better said, there is no such thing. The biggest shocker to most so-called true longs and others of that ilk will be the revelation of the true outstanding share count. Which will and does exactly explain the cruddy shareprice.
Hope no one here put money in, that they are not fully prepared to lose, and better yet, hope you didnt' talk your friends and relatives into a penny stock. You may recover from your personal losses, but the fall-out from friends and family can be really painful for a long, long time.
A lot of speculation here as to the why's of the trial extension, all of it based on zero facts and most if not all of it painting rosy pictures about gzfx's future with CC.
But that is easily not necessarily the case, what may have happened is that CC saw that they were not making the money they expected and may have asked for unreasonable money for gzfx to continue and gzfx made a proprosition to buy time, to dump the rest of the authorized giving GGI a chance to get their money.
The new language certainly looks different than the old language of the agreement.
More sanitized and streamlined to affect a termination.
Do the math, 27 stores (according to this board), 3300 new subs, 2 1/2 months of trial. 27 times 75 equals 2025 store days to gather 3300 subs.
That says that each CC store is getting 1.6 subs per day, or 11 a week or 45 a month.
AT WHAT COST TO GZFX?
Is it worth it for CC? I think not, that is why the agreement language was clean-up, especially with an eye for termination, including dropping the axe-notice to 10 days.
It's clear to some the party is over.
To those who now consider themselves stuck and those that choose to believe in gzfx at any cost, the real pain may still be coming!
IGNORE ME, SLAM ME, OR POST CUTSEY TO ME TO HEAR YOURSELF SPEAK, VIA SENTINEL, IT WON'T CHANGE A THING.
First you take umbrage at a suggestion not necessarily directed towards you, then you proceed to attack, not the logic so much, but the poster. why is that?
Re: "That is patently absurd, and made me laugh. Sorry"
which part? that the proven wrong show some class, or the suggestion they not post/spin for awhile?
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Re: "It's only "bad news" if you think it is. Plenty of smart folk, their intellect being previously demonstrated here, unlike some others', think it isn't bad news at all"
Intellect aside, it's just not the point of the markets, and most real investors laugh at the so-called intellect of the penny stock cruisers. Hundreds, maybe thousands of new investors, most if not almost all are down real $ on gzfx. Regardless of the miles of useless posts saying otherwise, so sell intellect sentinel, if it helps hide the truth. That truth, to date, gzfx is big loss for most gzfx investors.
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Re: 110% growth is "minimum"???
Yes 110% growth can certainly be minimum, what a 110% of 600? And better yet, why play word games with percentage games??? If the numbers were good to great, then post the numbers, not the spin percentages based on wording about one quarter over something previous quarter. Look at the wording, devious IMO, much like the "It is the intention of".
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Re: "Careful, "appearances" can be deceiving when you don't have all the facts, which we don't. The smart investor keeps an open mind"
Does that translate to smart investors should continue to hold??? Seems to me the smart investor would be out of gzfx for now, wait for a bottom if the believe in the company and it's willingness to pass the bottomline on to investors. I'm thinking there is a outstanding share count shock straight ahead, (students of volume and shareholder enthusiasm and current shareprice) should at least consider dilution to possibly be crushing.
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Re: " If this made sense, I would address it. You clearly are not experienced with contractual terminology."
Why don't you tell us all about the use of the wording "It is the intention of" looks to me like that is designed as as out, placed there not accidentally, but to cover some a$$ during future eventuallities (sp) while appearing to imply something entirely different. You imply that you yourself have contractual terminology experience, of all wording, why use those?
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Re:"Hmmm you speak of GZFX shareholders being clueless. You must not have owned any shares, which leads any concerned person to wonder just why you are here"
No, you are trying to implicate me via your misguided perceptions, my speech was clear, when it comes to current gzfx outstanding share count, with the TA having been gagged for at least 2 months now, with gzfx having a history of dumping, and with GGI having it's hands on lots of shares with a green light to sell, it's obvious to all except shills and those who spin at all cost, that gzfx shareholders are clueless in that area.
I spoke clear why would choose to take it any other way, then proceed to rant using your perceptions as a guide? As to the rest of what you posted just above, I will not address, as it has nothing to do with facts or argument.
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Re:"Until we see real numbers from the company, you can't possibly say these folks were wrong. In general, your posts just don't hold together well, from a logical standpoint. I'm certain you'll pardon me for not giving you the benefit of the doubt here, nor lend any credibility to your arguments? I am all for learning of opposing viewpoints, but I guess I appreciate a more reasoned stance and debatable position. Call it a flaw in my character. Best to you. Cheers."
Very clever, should hold water with the ignorant quite well, you ego is showing though, or your motives! Bunch of hooey, designed to wander away from intelligent discussion while implying that you hold the cards in that arena. In other words, a bunch of bs that not even you can believe and makes one wonder why you would even bother???. Best you to too, unless of course you are a paid shill in that case, good luck with the bagholders and keep worrying that shareholders like goldleader doesn't ruffle the feathers of your bosses while you control the masses. Cheers back at you.
Anyone who said the CC roll-out was on, or insisted that the CC trial language said that 30 days would have to be given or the deal was on. The said that all systems were go or anything like that, should show some class and not post until March 15th, like the extension.
Instead they are busy pumping bad news saying it's a good thing. & best not to hurry the roll-out to be ready for all the new business.
Why would gzfx enter an agreement to rapidly expand, only to not be able to, with only a minimum of sub growth? It would appear that CC is having severe reservations about this partnership, only CC would change the 30 day notice and straighten-up the sketchy language, gzfx would no doubt prefer the 30 days and the hazy/spin lannguage like "It is the intention".
No matter how you spin-it, and that seems to be the flavor of this board, spin, tomorrow will be another red day and gzfx shareholders will continue to be clueless as to the extent of the dilution, in the recent past, now, and into the future. Lots here lived in denial about the 1.2 billion, then either ignored it and/or preceded to spin it saying "it's a good thing".
With Chips signature being on the extension since Dec 22, it's clear that gzfx has known about the roll-out not preceding for at least 10 days, probably more.
Knowing that and seeing that CC (or GZFX) can completely kill the deal with 10 days notice.
It's possible that the CC deal is now dead and gzfx shareholders will not find out for another 2 weeks.
Two weeks that GGI will certainly use to get rid of more shares, a continued downward shareprice will be a sure sign of REAL BAD NEWS ABOUT CC IS COMING.
Other than daytraders trying to find a bottom, who will buy this stock for the next 6 weeks?
Not talking about who is saying they are buying, talking about real buying to hold. If you own gzfx now, why buy more, unless you are a day trader trying to find a bottom for some quick bucks.