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Sad but very true!!
Here's the situation we have Here
These people are criminals and i will never forget how much money they 've stolen to me,to my brother, and to hundreds of investors.
I wish they will go to jail!
No Design depot in Dubai!It's another big fat lie!
No SLJB trace in dubai and no Wessal in Dubai!
They officially told us that the multiyear 350 millions $ cement deal was false,it was a lie :
http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/news/articles.asp?guid={902155D4-3DD7-4E63-AAA1-BDFA3276999A}&n....
Now,even better,they are telling us about another 420 millions $ mutiyear deal??
Before making such PR,you have to Post the A/F with 26 millions pretax profits,you have to stop diluting(you told us not dilution)now at about 610 M shares O/S at least.
Petar doesn't own shares at all and we should trust??
I don't know but one thing i know for sure,I'm not an idiot!
SLJB fooled us once but not twice!
That's not an appropriate way to regain trust!
Posted by: Saviman
In reply to: ATM who wrote msg# 210814 Date:12/9/2006 9:29:36 PM
Post #of 213588
The sad part is that no matter what they say from now on it will be very hard to believe and the reality is that any increase in price will be short lived. Every one right now is just waiting for the right kind of news to just get out at break even or at least minimum loss.
This experience has taught me one thing...if you don't have integrity (adherence to moral and ethical principles; soundness of moral character; honesty) in business or life in general, sooner or later you will fail. SLJBs integrity will be very hard to earn back. 95% of share holders left are nothing but flippers. Just like buzzers waiting for the left overs after the kill has been eaten by the bigger animals. Sad but true.
One last thing to remember....whatever stick you measure with you also will be measured. (What goes around comes around)
The criminals that did this and destroyed many families in the process will get theirs in the end. Whom ever that may be.
Sorry, just venting a little. This has probably has been one the worst experiences in my life but I know God will open other doors. He never leaves His children forsaken in times of trouble. Got to put my faith in God not SLJB.
The fact that Petar clearly told the boys at the trip in Windsor that he doesn't own any shares tells the story!
No to mention,Wessal sold out(just in case they even exist)according to Petar!Another big Red Flag.
mrdammar,here's what you told us from your TRIP to windsor
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=15320960
Posted by: mrdrammar
In reply to: nickulliana who wrote msg# 205462 Date:12/6/2006 9:05:14 AM
Post #of 205788
Actually the only question i asked peter that day is WHEN ARE WE GOING TO SEE THE AF !! & he said I DON'T KNOW then i asked again is it a matter of days ? weeks ? months ? years ? & he said he really have no idea when they gonna be done ...
& the rest of what he said was unimportant for me .. it was all kind of blah blah blah ..
But i really know whats goin on with this stock & i know what kind of games THEY are playing ...
& by the way i really didn't buy that Airys is your BF & that hes a millionaire hehe but i said to myself whatever its really not my business & i like listening more than talking ...
I agree with you saviman
They officially told us that the multiyear 350 millions $ cement deal was false:
http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/news/articles.asp?guid={902155D4-3DD7-4E63-AAA1-BDFA3276999A}&n...
Now,even better,they are telling us about another 420 millions $ mutiyear deal??
Before making such PR,you have to Post the A/F with 26 millions pretax profits,you have to stop diluting(you told us not dilution)now at about 610 M shares O/S at least.
Petar doesn't own shares at all and we should trust??
I don't know but one thing i know for sure,I'm not an idiot!
SLJB fooled us once but not twice!
That's not an appropriate way to regain trust!
Posted by: Saviman
In reply to: ATM who wrote msg# 210814 Date:12/9/2006 9:29:36 PM
Post #of 213588
The sad part is that no matter what they say from now on it will be very hard to believe and the reality is that any increase in price will be short lived. Every one right now is just waiting for the right kind of news to just get out at break even or at least minimum loss.
This experience has taught me one thing...if you don't have integrity (adherence to moral and ethical principles; soundness of moral character; honesty) in business or life in general, sooner or later you will fail. SLJBs integrity will be very hard to earn back. 95% of share holders left are nothing but flippers. Just like buzzers waiting for the left overs after the kill has been eaten by the bigger animals. Sad but true.
One last thing to remember....whatever stick you measure with you also will be measured. (What goes around comes around)
The criminals that did this and destroyed many families in the process will get theirs in the end. Whom ever that may be.
Sorry, just venting a little. This has probably has been one the worst experiences in my life but I know God will open other doors. He never leaves His children forsaken in times of trouble. Got to put my faith in God not SLJB.
ADMIT OR DENIED!!
By jannie
Admit or deny you falsified not one, but several PRs announcing a change in corporate management.
Admit or deny you falsified a PR claiming an "officially closed" $350 mil cement contract with Ramada General Contractors.
Admit or deny that you drafted and/or typed each and every PR which was attributed to Steve Sulja from June, 2006 through December, 2006.
Admit or deny that you held 150 mil shares of SLJB stock and sold those shares for .10 each just prior to the downfall of the share price on November 16, 2006.
Admit or deny that you short sold 100 mil shares of SLJB stock at .10 per share just prior to the downfall of the share price on November 16, 2006.
Admit or deny that you bought 100 mil shares of SLJB stock to cover your short sale, at a share price of .011-.015 cents.
Admit or deny that you were complicit with Andrew DeVries, et al, to manipulate the price of SLJB stock for the benefit of yourself and others.
Admit or deny you knew that Wessal International did not exist.
Admit or deny you knew that Ahmed Khalil Al-Muslmani did not exist.
Admit or deny that Omar Syed impersonated an attorney for Wessal International in telephone calls with SLJB investors.
Shall I continue? Folks, this is what any lawsuit against the Windsor Star is going to turn into when they bring in Petar Vucicevich as a third party defendant.
well said creede.No trust unless they prove they didn't lied
with the unaudited statement of 26 Millions profits!
Show us the money the big profits you've already made or you'll never be trusted again!
You have to respect investors by posting the A/F WITH the big profits.We don't want to hear future Zillions deals.
We want to see the profits!Tell us about the profits you've made and don't try to distract us with forward looking statements!
" Looks to me they are trying to distract us by saying ~~> "Hey look over here! It's Elvis!" And then we are supposed to go running to see the king. Not a chance. If they really want to become "shareholder friendly" next week, then why don't they ungag the TA, and release the AF's? Does anyone really want to hear about a concrete deal at this present time? We already know what happened to the last one. First things first. Show us that SLJB really has assets so that we will believe that if there is really is a deal, then SLJB will get the revenue".
Here's the Level 2 SLJB collapse
November 16th,2006 first minutes:
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/9297/sljbcollapse161106openvx7.png
Signed by me
I'm very sorry for your losses,Luvtrading just like the vast majority of us!
However,just a couple of days ago,
If i'm right,when SLJB was trading around .019-.020,you said only a fool would sell,selling is ridiculous...
only the criminals want you to sell!
Anyway,i appreciate the fact that you're telling your real thoughts now!
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=15206792
Posted by: luvtradin1
In reply to: None Date:12/1/2006 10:18:48 AM
Post #of 210446
don't forget the criminals want you to sell,
think about it, why would they care? what is in it for them,
don't be fooled, selling now is ridiculous in my opinion,
what we need is the truth from the company, nothing less!!
My thoughts and opinions are not investment advice. Form your own conclusions, do not rely on mine
Airsys,What i want you to say is to respond to the questions i asked you in one of my previous post:
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=15394175
These are very legitimate questions and that's what YOU'VE BEEN TOLD BY PETAR!
You have your opinion but obviously,you don't want to answer...WHY?
With due respect,i really don't think at all it's helping to gain trust by not not responding to these basic questions.
I would like to believe you forgot to respond...
Waiting patiently for a reply from you.Have a nice week end.
Smart
Angela,Stock H.O.G is very honest and i really appreciate his contribution.
Negative or Postive things,he tells the truth(or at least what he has been told).He has nothing to hide.
We are all truth seekers!
i particularly appreciate his opinion:
Why Wessal has sold out their shares(assuming they exist and they had some shares). I don't think they ever bought the full amount they said they were going to. I think they may have lost trust, just as many shareholder have. I would think that buying from institutions now is almost none, it's all retail. They will have to gain that trust back and move to the OTCBB.
Why PETAR doesn't own any shares at all? I think he makes a lot of money and is doing all of this to help his Sulja buddies. I don't think his main focus is Sulja, he has his other businesses.
Why they've bought SAM for just 500 000$ or about 1/12 sales? I heard they orginally wanted 1.2M and he talked them down. The market is slowing over there Maybe SAMs just wanted out. 500k up there probably goes a long way. I'm glad he was able to take out the competition cheaper. I hope they keep doing it too.
This is what i call a great and honest post!
congrats sandbath!
Airys,is it possible to have your point of view
I would like to know your personnal opinion
(not the SLJB explanation)
Why Wessal has sold out their shares(assuming they exist and they had some shares)
Why PETAR doesn't own any shares at all?
Why they've bought SAM for just 500 000$ or about 1/12 sales?
Thanks
Great post Jannie!!
congrats for your post:
By 'janniebgood'
No, not good. I'd love to see the requests for admission propounded to Petar by the formidable cadre of WS attorneys!
Admit or deny you falsified not one, but several PRs announcing a change in corporate management.
Admit or deny you falsified a PR claiming an "officially closed" $350 mil cement contract with Ramada General Contractors.
Admit or deny that you drafted and/or typed each and every PR which was attributed to Steve Sulja from June, 2006 through December, 2006.
Admit or deny that you held 150 mil shares of SLJB stock and sold those shares for .10 each just prior to the downfall of the share price on November 16, 2006.
Admit or deny that you short sold 100 mil shares of SLJB stock at .10 per share just prior to the downfall of the share price on November 16, 2006.
Admit or deny that you bought 100 mil shares of SLJB stock to cover your short sale, at a share price of .011-.015 cents.
Admit or deny that you were complicit with Andrew DeVries, et al, to manipulate the price of SLJB stock for the benefit of yourself and others.
Admit or deny you knew that Wessal International did not exist.
Admit or deny you knew that Ahmed Khalil Al-Muslmani did not exist.
Admit or deny that Omar Syed impersonated an attorney for Wessal International in telephone calls with SLJB investors.
Shall I continue? Folks, this is what any lawsuit against the Windsor Star is going to turn into when they bring in Petar Vucicevich as a third party defendant.
Thanks for the link,Binzur!
Airys, HOG and all. Take a look at this link and the 29 or so posts. A caring friend provided it just now.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/board.asp?board_id=5092
Shareholders filed a class action and got their investments back with interest!
Haven't had time to check out details but wanted this to be looked at.
Our move is to go after every single one involved in a Class action. All the way back to April of 2005. There is so much fraud and we all have determined that many got rich at our expense!
Windsor Star Class Action with all due respect isn't going to do anything. They had little or nothing to do with the crash on November 16th!
JMHO!
You should add these questions!
1-Why Petar,you don't own any shares at all if you think SLJB is doing great?
2-SAM was bought for just 500 000$ or about just 7% of their revenues!! WHY??
3-Wessal International has arranged for private financing of USD 25 million of investment capital, for Sulja Bros.Tell me about that!
4-What is the float,how much Outstanding shares?
5-What is the insiders ownership?
6-Why Wessal has sold out,why we can't find anything about wessal anywhere except The SLJB PR's?
7-Why no trace of Sulja in the M.E?(Dubai and Saudi arabia)?
How much
Posted by: johnnydrama
In reply to: Airys418 who wrote msg# 208044 Date:12/7/2006 10:39:03 PM
Post #of 208704
I am a lawyer and to give you an idea as to what i think of the merits of the case, just reading your post was a waste of my time. Airys, what a joke. This is why I wanted to come the meeting. You guys never asked the follow up questions. Just the first question. Like, (1) so Wessel sold out, when did they sell out? (2) when did you hear they sold out, (3) didnt you tell us on the blog that they were still buying, (4) who did you talk to at Wessal, (5) what is his number, (6) arent they our strategic partner in the region, (7) werent they suppose to play a major role in the future of the company, etc. You guys did a poor job getting answers. Its too bad. All imo.
All imo.
I would like to know your personnal opinion
not the SLJB explanation...
Why Wessal has sold out their shares(assuming they exist and they had some shares)
Why PETAR doesn't own any shares at all?
Why they've bought SAM for just 500 000$ or about 1/12 sales?
Yes,because at least Snips seems to own some shares!
Not the billions deal makers!
Jim,Petar told the guys Sam was bought for only 500 000$!
This is very very bearish !
Just think about it:1/12 sales!!
IF this PR had some credibility the stock would have reacted positively but no,This PR is so unreal,that it's contributing to push the stock lower.
You're writing as if SLJB was GE,but no,it's not the case,it's a small pink stock.
Petar is talking about Billions $ and he doesn't even own a single share!He doesn't even trust himself.
Think just a moment:
If he trusted himself he would have bought about one hundred millions because as Steve SULJA told us,enough profits already booked for a Nasday listing!
Now read this:
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=15334191
Posted by: Stock H.O.G.
In reply to: smartinvestor who wrote msg# 206156 Date:12/6/2006 1:35:16 PM
Post #of 207319
Here's my thoughts on your questions:
Why Wessal has sold out their shares(assuming they exist and they had some shares). I don't think they ever bought the full amount they said they were going to. I think they may have lost trust, just as many shareholder have. I would think that buying from institutions now is almost none, it's all retail. They will have to gain that trust back and move to the OTCBB.
Why PETAR doesn't own any shares at all? I think he makes a lot of money and is doing all of this to help his Sulja buddies. I don't think his main focus is Sulja, he has his other businesses.
Why they've bought SAM for just 500 000$ or about 1/12 sales? I heard they orginally wanted 1.2M and he talked them down. The market is slowing over there Maybe SAMs just wanted out. 500k up there probably goes a long way. I'm glad he was able to take out the competition cheaper. I hope they keep doing it too.
PETAR and the Audited financial
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=15320960
Posted by: mrdrammar
In reply to: nickulliana who wrote msg# 205462 Date:12/6/2006 9:05:14 AM
Post #of 205788
Actually the only question i asked peter that day is WHEN ARE WE GOING TO SEE THE AF !! & he said I DON'T KNOW then i asked again is it a matter of days ? weeks ? months ? years ? & he said he really have no idea when they gonna be done ...
& the rest of what he said was unimportant for me .. it was all kind of blah blah blah ..
But i really know whats goin on with this stock & i know what kind of games THEY are playing ...
& by the way i really didn't buy that Airys is your BF & that hes a millionaire hehe but i said to myself whatever its really not my business & i like listening more than talking ...
5 BILLIONS US $!!
Profits are about 10% or 500 Millions $
This announced and "secured deal" is nearly 15 times bigger than the last deal wich was secured,closed and finalized last August to pump the stock.
Shortly after Petar told us:
"Well,the deal is lost"
from the TRIP to windsor
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=15320960
Posted by: mrdrammar
In reply to: nickulliana who wrote msg# 205462 Date:12/6/2006 9:05:14 AM
Post #of 205788
Actually the only question i asked peter that day is WHEN ARE WE GOING TO SEE THE AF !! & he said I DON'T KNOW then i asked again is it a matter of days ? weeks ? months ? years ? & he said he really have no idea when they gonna be done ...
& the rest of what he said was unimportant for me .. it was all kind of blah blah blah ..
But i really know whats goin on with this stock & i know what kind of games THEY are playing ...
& by the way i really didn't buy that Airys is your BF & that hes a millionaire hehe but i said to myself whatever its really not my business & i like listening more than talking ...
It's absolutely not credible and absurd given the Fact that Petar doesn't own a single share!
He has told this fact to Stock HOG and Airsys
Thanks for your thoughts and for your honesty stock HOG!
These are major questions!
Remember,Petar told us he didn't own any shares,but if as you said,he has sold his shares with major profits and at the same time he was pumping the stock ,this is criminal fraud!
Remember the company told us,they have already made 26 Millions pretax profits(EPS of .031),and that's why we've bought shares and didn't sold at .12 because at this level the stock was trading with a PE of 4.
Man oh man,this is very questionnable!!
I would like to know your personnal opinion
not the SLJB explanation...
Why Wessal has sold out their shares(assuming they exist and they had some shares)
Why PETAR doesn't own any shares at all?
Why they've bought SAM for just 500 000$ or about 1/12 sales?
Stock HOG
I will ask very simple questions:
Why Wessal has sold out their shares(assuming they exist and they had some shares)
Why PETAR doesn't own any shares at all?
Why they've bought SAM for just 500 000$ or about 1/12 sales?
Petar told the guys SAM was bought for 500 000 $.
So stop your nonsense post!
If they've bought for 1/2 millions $ this company,they
should be far from being profitable and should likely have a lot of debt!
Very very questionnable deal.
from the TRIP to windsor
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=15320960
Posted by: mrdrammar
In reply to: nickulliana who wrote msg# 205462 Date:12/6/2006 9:05:14 AM
Post #of 205788
Actually the only question i asked peter that day is WHEN ARE WE GOING TO SEE THE AF !! & he said I DON'T KNOW then i asked again is it a matter of days ? weeks ? months ? years ? & he said he really have no idea when they gonna be done ...
& the rest of what he said was unimportant for me .. it was all kind of blah blah blah ..
But i really know whats goin on with this stock & i know what kind of games THEY are playing ...
& by the way i really didn't buy that Airys is your BF & that hes a millionaire hehe but i said to myself whatever its really not my business & i like listening more than talking ...
Airsys,they've sold like it or not and you you know it,that's what you have been told.
You were with stock HOG right?Stock HOG told us Wessal has sold out!
Stock H.O.G. message proving it:
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=15284402
Posted by: Airys418
In reply to: dc6720 who wrote msg# 204818 Date:12/5/2006 5:58:36 PM
Post #of 205638
Who said they sold 100 million shares? Maybe they didn't buy them all? No one ever confirmed that they were done buying? Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Pop,what a mess!
this is really unbelievable!
I sure hope so too Top!
bets to you friend.
Yes they've sold like it or not but that's what you have been told.
You were with stock HOG who told us Wessal has sold out
Stock H.O.G.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=15284402
if one deal is gone,ok i could believe
BUT IF EACH TIME OVER AND OVER if someone tells you:
"Well the deal is gone"
You have 100 DEALS that are gone and nothing .So it's pretty clear that the So called "DEAL MAKER" has no credibility at all and IS A LIAR.
Let's focus on this sentence from Steve SULJA:
"The company IS MAKING ENOUGH NET PROFITS to easily justify the NASDAQ move".
IMO,This sentence is the one he should never ever have pronounced.
This sentence will cost the company Milions and Milions $ if he lied and IMO 99.9 % CHANCE that it's A BIG FAT LIE!.
In this case this CRIMINAL FRAUD!
TELL ME YOU WON'T AGREE!!!
Press Release Source: Sulja Bros. Building Supplies, Ltd.
Sulja Bros. Building Supplies Receives Initial Coverage From Knobias
Thursday August 24, 12:27 pm ET
WINDSOR, ON--(MARKET WIRE)--Aug 24, 2006 -- Sulja Bros. Building Supplies, Ltd. (Other OTC:SLJB.PK - News) received initial coverage from Knobias, Inc. (OTC BB:KNBS.OB - News) on August 23, 2006. The article was favorable and is available at www.knobias.com.
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CEO Steve Sulja stated: "We received some early coverage from Knobias. The article detailed the undervalued condition of our stock by accepted standards of price and market capitalization. The company believes the condition is temporary and due to being listed on the Pink Sheets. Our takeover of LoftWerks to protect our joint venture interests is the reason we are temporarily on the Pink Sheets. We are clearly not a start-up company, but we are careful about protecting our money invested in a joint venture. The company financial audits will be completed in a couple of weeks. Then a Form 10 will get our company to the OTCBB. Clearly, this is not our final goal. We will seek a NASDAQ listing. The company is making enough net profits to easily justify the NASDAQ move. Our long term investors know we are worth more and within a year, we will give them one of the greatest short term returns in the stock market."
Source: Sulja Bros. Building Supplies, Ltd.
Rookinvestor
I'm amazed that this company is still valued at about 10 Millions given the BIG FAT LIES they told us!
THE MOST IMPORTANT FACT TO REMEMBER
Steve SULJA told us:
"The company IS MAKING ENOUGH NET PROFITS to easily justify the NASDAQ move".
Here's the link:
http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/060824/0157143.html
IF HE DON'T SHOW US THE BIG PROFITS already booked,the CEO will likely be prosecuted for criminal fraud and will likely go to jail.
http://www.whoknowswhatyoullfind.com/picks/sljb/SLJB%20Unaudited%20financials06.pdf
UAE :20.1M
Harow/windsor:26.1M
Miichigan :15.5M
IDC :2.4M
Misc.revenues:1.2M
Pretax profits:26.0M
Steve SULJA told us enough profits already booked for a Nasdaq listing!!!!!
Anyway here's the complete PR:
Press Release Source: Sulja Bros. Building Supplies, Ltd.
Sulja Bros. Building Supplies Receives Initial Coverage From Knobias
Thursday August 24, 12:27 pm ET
WINDSOR, ON--(MARKET WIRE)--Aug 24, 2006 -- Sulja Bros. Building Supplies, Ltd. (Other OTC:SLJB.PK - News) received initial coverage from Knobias, Inc. (OTC BB:KNBS.OB - News) on August 23, 2006. The article was favorable and is available at www.knobias.com.
ADVERTISEMENT
CEO Steve Sulja stated: "We received some early coverage from Knobias. The article detailed the undervalued condition of our stock by accepted standards of price and market capitalization. The company believes the condition is temporary and due to being listed on the Pink Sheets. Our takeover of LoftWerks to protect our joint venture interests is the reason we are temporarily on the Pink Sheets. We are clearly not a start-up company, but we are careful about protecting our money invested in a joint venture. The company financial audits will be completed in a couple of weeks. Then a Form 10 will get our company to the OTCBB. Clearly, this is not our final goal. We will seek a NASDAQ listing. The company is making enough net profits to easily justify the NASDAQ move. Our long term investors know we are worth more and within a year, we will give them one of the greatest short term returns in the stock market."
Source: Sulja Bros. Building Supplies, Ltd.
Jannie
Time for you to change your photo with the right one i've posted!!