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I am somewhat new to Twitter, but it did say that Santo re-tweeted it and I'm not aware of web crawlers able to access someone's account legally to re-tweet under their profile. However, them re-tweeting the Envion promo on their own supports your theory that Santo is probably not feeling threatened by them.
That offers pretty good amount of relief. I'm holding this cheap entry for a decent potential return also. Just thought I throw the questions out and get some other ideas, so thank you for your input.
Government regulators accepting their filings says they are legit.
lack of halts or investigations says they are legit.
Majority of investors see them as very transparent.
Any other claims are just opinionated assumptions.
That's what I was thinking also, but I thought I just propose the query to see if anybody had some different insight I may not have considered or may be missing. I thought it risky to retweet someone in the starting the same business as Santo, so maybe there is no threat being in different locales and comparison of feasibility is all it is. Might just be one of those things I'm reading too much into.
Nobody can manipulate or control me in business or especially on this forum.
I control my own destiny and make my own decisions.
There is nothing more to get, I can think for myself, thank you.
It would be best if people not waste their time with me unless I request input concerning $SANP then.
The name of the company is actually Envion.
Yeah, I saw this company pop up in my feed a few days ago and being a shareholder of Santo, I did not want to publicize it as I saw them as a competitor that could potentially hurt Santo's pps. Then Santo retweets Envion, so now I'm confused and curious about the play here myself.
I've tried to find a connection other than similar businesses, but I haven't been able to yet. However, it seems that Envion does not have a stake in the US market or a ticker that could find and is only a German-Swiss startup at this point, but I could be missing something.
http://www.nasdaq.com/press-release/envion-ag-envion-and-fraunhofer-to-start-research-cooperation-20171109-00299
Except everyone exclaims it should be released through Accesswire and it was, among others. So now that they released where people say it is more official and professional, that is not good enough. Apparently, $SANP can't win with certain people no matter want is the real answer. They could go no R/S, $10 a share, and still be a scam all because of "Frankie" will never do right.
Regardless, I am not concerned about what Mr. Yglesias did, what his plans were, or what he hasn't done; I am only concerned about developments now and adapting to the profit their heading towards.
A final definitive agreement has been reached on October 30, 2017. It's just not the one many wanted.
I just went through some recent posts and I still do not understand why we are still bringing up the November 1st termination of the LOI. That only applied while there was no definitive agreement on the table. A definitive agreement has been announced since October 30, 2017. Also, that agreement has stated that it is the first of a multi-part process to develop Canoe Pool America. I am not going to state with all certainty that means we are still heading for the original merger plan, but it can still reasonably be argued so.
The point is, since their has been a definitive agreement announced, the LOI termination is no longer relevant because it was announced before that termination date and one of the contingencies was meant while the LOI did not define the specific merger everybody wanted. This is not a question of DD, it is a question of reading comprehension. Drop the November 1st termination argument, it is no longer valid.
The only other thing that applies now is the 30 to 45 day develop phase that puts the dates between November 27 to December 12, 2017. Again, that is unspecific time frame to expect completion. Realistically, it could happen a little before or a little after.
Originally planned merger, adjusted merger, exclusive agreement, or other partnership; what should anybody care as long as the company makes them money. I am for one not concern about specific plans being meant because other promising developments are taking place. Business development is extremely fluid and changes occur. You are not going to get exactly what you want. You have to be adaptable to these changes and plan accordingly. If you cannot be adaptable, then maybe you should not be trading.
Good job. I failed some in my own critical thinking and did not even consider call records being posted. Point 1 for your post and I dare say that if it plays out even close to your phone testimony, another point.
Either way, still good for $SANP morale.
Never said that should be a stickied either. However, that could at least have a chance to be verified, although unlikely, by others calling and claiming their results. The claims are based on testimony of what they were told and not opinion.
I agree with people stating we should refrain from such actions and let them do their job. Also, the phone call post wasn't formulated just to attack SANP, the CEO's, or the intelligence of investors to have the ability to make their own decisions like this OP.
In the end, no, neither should be stickied by their own merits alone.
Absolutely not, ridiculous request. Stickies need to be reserved for professional posts back up by facts, not speculative opinions and BS due to hurt emotions.
Sorry, I'm seeing different signs than what you claim...so NO.
Also, this response is completely irrelevant to my post or challenge.
Agree, that is another option people need to consider.
Proof of Photoshop. Analyze it and post your results.
Where is it said that the solar panels are meant to power the panels alone. They are only meant to subsidize energy cost and lower than bottom line to increase profitability wherever they are stationed while they remain as portable as possible.
Green energies are seeing new developments as we go. In the future they will be much more viable than they are now, perhaps even a replacement for current technologies.
Really? Famous people in China Town? Who are they? What are their names?
I'd really like to know, because when I cropped and google searched their faces, I got NOTHING.
Maybe that's because they are just part of management authorized to approve agreements of the companies that are actually located around China who are too low key to show up in Google.
He's not scared, just mad. He already admitted to selling for a big loss several posts back and was claiming that he was already on another ticker that was going to recoup his losses. He was a big supporter until after doing that.
However, I'm new at this but, if one buys in and ends up selling for a loss all the time, isn't that just counter=productive to profit to the point of eventually loosing all your resources?
Current on Tuesday hours before the market even opens. Ahead of the schedule before mid-week. Well played Mr. Yglesias.
Thank you for info I could not find and I also read that portion in the Q2. But, no, I'm not concerned regardless of the situation. Bringing to light that it was just a immigration hold just supports my lengthy summation that Mr. Yglesias is most likely not the criminal that many here are trying to claim. Many, including me, have been subject of a hold. Allegations without proof can put one in a hold during an investigation.
As for past business dealings, could be many things from not working out as plan to making wrong decisions. However, as pointed out, Item 9 In the Q2 states they are not currently under or have been under any litigation for any business practices. So, I guess that should be put to rest. Good find.
Funny, I hate those lengthy, boring docs and I found it in both the Q2 Un-Audited Financial Statement (pg. 12 - 13) and the Q2 OTC Pink Disclosure Statement (pg. 6 - 7), Item 6 between KBM Worldwide Inc. and Hanover Notes sections.
Was he convicted of or even charged with anything concerning those ventures? If not, he is neither a career criminal nor a criminal at all due to any behavior connected to them. Could have been bad business decisions as far as we know.
Again, throwing around labels without factual proof is slander and defamation.
Maybe, I remember seeing that somewhere, but it may have been another charge. I disregarded it because I didn't think it was related and I really didn't think much of it. Bad maneuver? yes. But, so many people get the same charge and some may not even be visibly impaired to themselves or others
Honestly, I drove back to the base many years ago in Grayling, Michigan because everyone else was wasted. I thought I was good, but once I made it back, I realized I noticed how impaired I was. Fortunately, Grayling doesn't have much but dear and trees.
Many, including myself, have made that slip up, hence I consider it a minor stupid decision if no one got hurt.
Where does it say anything other than he was arrested and released. There is nothing concerning court decisions, court dates, or even official charges. Without any proof of that, Mr. Yglesias could have only been booked and released while awaiting for charges to be dropped as far as we know.
Even if he was convicted, I believe America's penial system is designed to rehabilitate criminals, then release them to re-integrate into society as functional citizens with rights re-instated; not punish them for the rest of their lives for whatever mistake they served their time for. Hence, the term EX-con, meaning, no longer a convict and deserving of a another chance. Yes, I do emphasize was
as it would have been 8 years ago with a clean record since then as far as we know.
As for the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Jurisdiction, than could mean many things. Being that he is involved with much international travel and imports and exports, it could have been as simple as procedural slip-up he was not even aware he was making. The point is, with only this mugshot to go off of, we do not have enough to throw baseless accusations when someone could be innocent as much as guilty. We do not have enough to present anything but theories and assumptions.
What are we in...High school...who cares about followers. Nobody can guarantee that non-followers aren't watching them.
As far as anybody knows....0
Hopefully not. I told them we didn't want to hear any BS crypto tweets, only positive proof they are going to fix this and do right by shareholders who invested in them so they could get where they are.
Yes... I know it's not going to work, but one can hope and at least try to make a difference.
The sad thing about what I just said is it is coming from someone who is still holding long. I'm still green, but today was garbage that sent my total portfolio into the red after being green for weeks.
$SANP, but y'all are pushing it
I agree complications could happen. I just wish Mr. Yglesias would express more about said complications. Even though others would use anything he said to spin it in a negative way, it would help with my confidence as a long. Whatever the deal is, may he be working it out for everyone's benefit.
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That is what I was thinking also and I hope we are both correct. Honestly, I am getting irritated by all these delay tweets concerning financials. I'm hope I don't end up regretting holding too long.
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No, I know there is no proof of that and it is only your unsubstantiated opinion as always.
Besides, I was not talking to you because all you bring to the table is text bites and that is one of the many reasons I do not take anything you say seriously when you offer nothing for me to learn from.
Conversation over.
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I'm glad you posted the same thing I was thinking, just for somebody with more credibility than me to point it out. I agree that the LOI expiration date was no longer relevant since the confirmation of exclusive agreement came on Oct 28th.
May I also point out that development of further merger could take 30 to 45 days from that date per all PR's concerning merger agreements and even once from the TA at one point. It has been posted here already several times on both accounts. I currently do not have the aptitude to re-post those, but I'm sure there is somebody here who can.
I am not in the position to settle any debate over if this the merger, if this is the merger in process, or if this is the partnership; but the time frame is something to keep in mind and the dates are being marked on my calendar. Either way, I still see this as an venture worth the risk.
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I was curious also, but could not find a definitive answer. I'm still new, so does that mean that that as a total of 270 mil buys possibly from China and are any buys seen as good?
I hear you. Believe me, I'm not in love or emotional with this or any other, so I completely agree with that outlook. That's is couple of the golden rules of trading, right? I have quite a few others that I'm awaiting trade opportunities on. SANP just happens to be one of them I made the call on that might show some unusual potential. At the moment, it's not performing as expected and hopefully it will either turn around or I learn otherwise before I'm no longer green.
I am picking these skills up quickly and it's a good thing I'm doing it with these cheap lessons, perspectively anyways. It ends up being judgment plays on all the DD we discover and we only find out if we were right or wrong in the end.
Thanks for the input. I'm actually still green myself, I'm just loosing profit with every drop. Of course, I realistically only lose profit if I sell my shares before it goes up. I get nervous also, I just fight the fear and hold. Worse case scenario, I loose my initial $150 investment. I can find any job and make that in 2 or 3 days.
I just hate to lose this golden opportunity to make a life change, even if a small one, to getting out too early or things going south. I'm staying optimistic the only failure will be the result of me caving to my fear.
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I've also been there myself the few years I lived in California. I just ended up preferring the Black Jack table more as I felt I could at least have a little more control playing the odds. I try to incorporate that into this or any stock, yet again, decisions are never guaranteed and so I never gamble with more than I can afford to lose at the time.
Thanks. That was more clarification I was not aware of. I already have that profile as one of my quick links so I can definitely keep an eye out for that. Thanks for staying on topic, that's difficult to get here at times.
Thank you. As represented by your second sentence, that was opinion with his response being exactly the opposite I asked for in my original post and it was not even relevant to my financials question that he responded to.
OK. I was thinking that also and that helps. Now, according to the timing of the tweet, if that meant they uploaded then, the Stop Sign should be gone tomorrow? Otherwise, the financials may have not been uploaded right at that time of submitting their profile?
I agree. There is no crystal ball to make all the right decisions and hind sight is always 20/20 as it goes. Besides, I also look at the option that if I did sell then, I had no guarantee of getting back in at the time.
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OK, but the Stop Sign is still there. Why and how long before it is gone? I am long here, but I was hoping that updating the profile along with what their tweet said meant financials were up-to-date also and it would be reflected on the OTC web site. At the moment, it seems it has been revealed otherwise as I mentioned before.
I'm not trying to sound like I'm flipping, I just have a legitimate concern about my investment and good news seems to drive it down lately.
Where is this sign of light that I can't seem to find? I really would like supporters or longs to point me in the right direction, because I am having a hard time locating it. I do not wish to here any text bites, only something of substance. Otherwise, I will just scour my leads more.
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Even though I am here for an investment, I do appreciate your honesty and transparency in a place there seems to be a lack there of. Although, I am kind of irritated that I didn't sell at .0029 and buy back in now at .0008, I would have had about 3X the shares. Oh well, I'm new at this and at least it is still a cheap lesson at this level.
In the end, we're all here to make money through one method or another, may it work out with all the right choices.
He was referring to Stocklordz? I just dealt with the same guy about the back end server. I tried to be civil the whole time and he came out swinging calling my input irrelevant and calling me an uneducated idiot, even after revealing my credentials, without so much backing up his point on the server or otherwise. Stocklordz is a moron! Hence, he is now blocked.