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"I don't have a clue"
Right, you don't!
Uh, shareholders of record have their NAME on the stock, not a broker's name. In other words, they outright own their shares, while we don't if we use a broker. All insiders are shareholders of record. I have millions of shares but I'm not a shareholder of record.
SPZI is not going to dilute to do business. You can forget that. They have STATED that they have the financing. Quit dreaming and just let it play out. We will know when they post it! This idiotic banter is plain stupid. None of us know how they are going to do the deal, and dreaming up schemes like diluting is just silly.
From what I've read, a private party, or a partner has funds for this purpose. Clearly, they would receive interest on that money, but if there are no banks involved, they must have a method, and as I said, we will see on the Q1 filing. We can't know what they have not told us, so everything else is simply speculation. And of course, there is that Asian bank that they mentioned. They said they don't have to borrow, so we will see how they fund it when they tell us.
They have already stated there is no need to borrow money. Financing is already available.
Q1 is due in 45 days, and that should clear everything up. There should be both revenue and some level of profit, the first of many.
You realize, of course, that idiotic comments like that just earn you an ignore, right?
This message board is for discussing the company and its stock, not bullshit like that.
Day traders take a little profit over and over. They take their 10% whenever they can. They typically have shares in several companies, and set their sells to happen when the share price hits the 10 (or other) percent point. There isn't a reason for it, they are simply doing what day traders do.
The price declines because people sell at market. Period. Or if they sell at a limit, their limit is below the share price. Most inexperienced traders sell at market. That makes buying opportunities for those of us that understand that.
That's what I meant about unrealistic expectations. That was spoken by a true pumper. To prove it, go read their postings. They say the same exact things in every company they post on...GET IT???
Yes, that is correct. But it is much harder to detect, because no one wants someone bashing their stock, but they don't see much of a problem with positive statements, even if they are dreaming. Like posting predicted price points that are ridiculous.
It is ONLY replies to bashers that are counted. I called them votes because it is a COUNT that is important to them. It doesn't matter what anyone writes to a basher, they don't read them anyway, and neither do those that hire them. We are the only ones that actually read those responses. EVERY response elicits a smile from a basher because they have enticed someone to respond.
Remember, what bashers write is demonstrably incorrect, and they know it. That is how they tease you into replying.
People that post negatively but state actual facts are not actually bashers, they are simply stating a fact. These are things you can look up for yourself. If you have questions about who may or may not be a basher, you can click on their profile and go read their posts on all the boards they post on. Their pattern is easily discerned.
It is called 'trading groups'. They pay both bashers and pumpers to elicit responses from stock message boards, in an attempt to influence stock price. It is strictly illegal, and it is next to impossible to identify these groups. Some have been caught and you can find the news about them if you search hard enough.
What is illegal is influencing stock price. It is not the company and it is not MM's. It is groups of traders, generally what we call 'whales'. They have many millions of shares, so making money is a matter of influencing the share price up or down to suit the current need.
The bashers/pumpers are paid by how many responses they receive from their activities. These responses are counted, and they are paid accordingly. No one reads those responses except US. So, any response to a basher is actually a 'vote', and the votes are counted, not read.
Ok, enough! This message board is for discussing the company and its stock! If you feel the need to chat, go private. The rest of us don't want or need to see this off topic stuff.
WOULD YOU JUST STOP POSTING EVERY FUCKING NEWS ARTICLE THAT IS ALREADY AVAILABLE AT OTCMARKETS.COM? JESUS, GET A FUCKING LIFE. ANYONE WITH THE SLIGHTEST INTEREST IN THIS STOCK WILL HAVE ALREADY READ IT. I PUT PUMPERS ON IGNORE, JUST LIKE BASHERS. BUH BYE!
They aren't making claims. They are trying to make you respond. You do it and they smile and get paid. That's what the ignore button is for.
In case you don't recognize what is happening, they aren't even talking about the company. They are merely luring you into responding by saying whatever it takes to get you to respond. They make their money like that. They don't buy or sell shares.
No, snow, market makers are not traders. They don't 'buy when the market comes back'. They buy when someone sells at a price within their spread. That is the law. And no, there is no naked shorting, which means selling shares you don't have and can't get. Every transaction by any MM is logged as to who sold, who bought, which MM(s) were involved, what the prices were, what the spread was at that time, and the time. MM's can short, but they are supposed to cover the same day. You see that at the close, often. If they are not closed, the short report, which is updated every 2 weeks, identifies who has not close out a short. That is only mm's because, regardless of what people say, you cannot short penny stocks, even if you wanted to, and could afford the margin. Why would anyone put up $2.50 to short a share of stock worth less than a penny? The most they could make would be a few percent of that sub penny stock, but they could lose the $2.50 if the stock goes up instead of down. It makes no financial sense, and brokerages simple won't process those orders. Etrade won't permit shorting any stock that is below $5. It is a WASTE of their time to futz with that.
The whole OTC is managed by automatic computer processing. There are no 'live' people handling transactions. If there were, the trading of 10,000+ public OTC companies shares would take forever, and there would have to be an army of MMs. The OTC trades BILLIONS of shares DAILY. There were 265000 OTC trades just yesterday, worth 1.9 BILLION dollars. And every single transaction is recorded automatically for future auditing.
Snow, they are not communicating with us. They are tempting us. If they were communicating, there would be a response from them. They tell lies JUST to get responses. Don't you realize they don't even read what you write in response? All of these companies go up and down. It is called volatility. If two people say the opposite thing about a company, one will almost always be 'right'.
I've made over $120,000 on SPZI so far. That, IN SPITE OF all the bashers, who LOVE this board because there are so many that respond to them. Those that respond are virtually always shareholders, and they care about the company. The bashers are virtually NEVER shareholders and they don't care WHAT happens to the company. You can't use logic on a basher.
Snow, bashers are NEVER wrong. Don't you understand that? Their words are BAIT. They are TRYING to get you to respond. What good is your response if they don't even read it? They DON'T read your responses, they move on to a different board and sometimes simply paste from one board to another. I have proved that right here, where I copied the responses from three separate boards which were all the same. Think of them as whack-a-moles...
Posting nonsense on 10 different boards in one day - why would anyone do that? The answer is that is the game they play, and they would not do it if it didn't pay. And no, they are not trying to get the stock to tank - they care not what the stock does, even if its rising quickly - all they want is a response. Those are counted and they get paid for them. The content does not matter, no one cares what is in the responses. It is the NUMBER of responses that matters to them.
Bashers CAN'T be wrong. Nor can they be right. They are not shareholders, and they are not trying to protect you. WE respond to each other. Bashers do not respond to ANYONE. It is this behavior that is the most telling clue. They make assertions, but they do not debate. It is one-sided. They don't READ your responses either, which is one good reason to never respond to them. You are not talking TO them, you are PAYING them.
The SEC issues tickers. They have many available, and you can request a specific one. You can't pick one that has ever been used. So, it is a process, and it is more complicated than changing your own name. You also have to remember who is doing the actual work of getting the 'business' up and running, and updating OTCM, getting the auditor up and running, and getting hands on the books of the old company while keeping track of what is actually going on with the new company for SEC filing. The annual report due later this month is the Spooz books. JP took over in mid December, and that event must also be filed in the annual report. As a past director in a public company, I KNOW how much work it is to keep track of every event and penny used by the company.
There is no reason anyone would spend hours pounding on a company other than to get paid for it. Does ANYONE, ANYWHERE, think that bashers are actually looking out for you? The very word bash means to lie. Don't be a sheep - wait until the company actually gets in gear and commences filing its fins. I can't believe anyone would take them seriously, especially when a new company has taken over an old one, and has not even begun to perform the duties of a puplic company.
Snow, they had to wait to get their approval before they could file their annual report and update the OTC pages. They also have to gain their new ticker before than can start using it. Give it a rest. It takes time to get things done.
For those considering the postings of the new bashers, just remember one thing: Wait for the fins to post at end of month. Might be a delay on posting that because of the change of ownership and getting the auditor into the loop. Hard to tell anything until we see what is presented.
We know there has been no revenue for 2023, so don't look for that. Q1 is due April 15, and then we'll see if any money has been made in Q1.
JP knew what the OS was when he took it over. I'm sure he'll do some reduction on that, and it has already been stated that an RS is not part of the reduction. The only other way is by buying shares back, and that can only be done with profit.
Lastly, JP and his partners have spoken of what they plan to do. There is nothing to indicate that they will do otherwise. The bashers look at the old company and attempt to use that to badmouth the company. It isn't that they don't have a clue, they KNOW what they are doing - they aren't even trying to make the stock go down. They are simply trying to get people to respond to them. DON'T DO IT! Go to their profile and read their last 50 messages. That will give you a good idea of their motivation.
That was not my point. YOU said to 'study the history' of SPZI. I said WHAT history. There is nothing to study.
What is there to study in a 3 month old company? There haven't even been any financial filings yet.
You don't need to 'protect' new shareholders. If they aren't smart enough to know how to trade, they will lose money. That is none of our business. And you really can't 'protect' anyone from bashers except by putting them on ignore so they will move on. I guarantee that if no one responds, they will go fishing elsewhere. Remember, it is NOT ABOUT THE COMPANY. It is about getting responses.
I don't ever sell at market either. But to prove a point one time with someone that told me that's not how it works, I sold 10,000,000 shares at market. The price dropped 20% before they were all gone. Then, I looked at the tranches that filled my order. The price continually dropped on each tranch, and the quantity went up. The spread is often a reflection of what buyers and sellers are doing.
When one sells at market, one is saying 'I will take whatever you will give me for these shares". Since they always list a quantity in the spread, they must fulfill that one first. Then they can drop the bid with a new spread and repeat doing that until they are gone. It is all done by computer, and each mm is in competition with each other. The fastest computer wins.
If you ever sell at market, you will see that those shares vanish, almost immediately. That is how a market sell works.
The price goes down because people sell at market. That's all it takes. If you sell at a limit, the price doesn't go ABOVE that limit until your shares are sold. If selling at market, the mm's will immediately drop their bids. Immediately. But that's just business as usual. It takes an ignorant shareholder to sell into the market. That hurts all shareholders.
If you think officers of public companies can just dip into the treasury, you are ignorant of how public companies work. They can get money two ways - selling their personally owned shares and by a salary. It's 'public' because the public owns it, and their shares are proof of that.
Why would anyone take a basher seriously? They don't even believe what they write. You are only helping them by replying.
The answer is that you pay NSAV''s attorney $500 to clear your shares. Many have done it. I have not. Still have half a mil div shares from 2017...I will not pay for free shares.
We are not talking about differing opinions, or agreements/disagreements.
We are talking about people that have no interest in the stock AT ALL. They are not shareholders, and never will be.
Their agenda is simply to lie to the members of the message board in order to evoke responses. That's it.
Go to one of their profiles and see how many boards they post the EXACT SAME WORDS over and over.
Opinions are one thing. Blatant lies are quite another. The ignore button works quite well to suppress that urge to 'defend' the company against someone that is ONLY attempting to get you to respond.
As I said, if you want to find out if someone is a basher, just go check their post history.
What you wrote to me:
"Tell you what, cupcake, anytime you want to compare accuracy track records with ANY of the so-called bashers, their calls of scams vs your calls, we're ready."
What you wrote to powerbattles on the EMGE message board today:
"Tell you what, cupcake, anytime you want to compare accuracy track records with ANY of the so-called bashers, their calls of scams vs your calls, we're ready."
What you wrote to Fai 2 on the GNS Message board:
"Tell you what, cupcake, anytime you're ready to compare "accuracy in reporting," meaning your track record of post accuracy vs mine, I'm right here."
BASHER!!! I've had you blocked forever, but this post isn't for you, it is for the others here that don't know about you...
"Those hating and bashing SPZI are going to be looking so stupid as more and more is released. All they have to do is remove their hateful blinders and do some real DD. More and more substance is coming just by reading what has already been released. There are going to be some lessons learned from this one with those that are bashing and hating."
You could not be further from the truth in that statement. They aren't hateful, they are making money. They aren't going to look stupid, it is those that respond to them that look stupid.
If you REALLY think bashers are hateful, you are mistaken. Their JOB is to make false claims to get people to respond to them. That is all. They are not shareholders, and they don't care WHAT the stock does. They ONLY want responses, which are counted and they eventually get paid.
All you have to do is click on their name, look at their last 50 posts, review what boards they post on and, most of all, see how many posts they have.
Some of them have over 100,000 posts. To reach that level, at 10 posts per day, for 365 days a year, it would take 27 YEARS!!! The ONLY way to shut them up is to stop responding to them. If NO ONE would respond to them, they'd go somewhere that they could make some money.
Human nature is to 'correct' incorrect statements. THAT is what they DEPEND ON. You can't correct a statement that is intentionally wrong. They are FISHING and some here are BITING. You ONLY help them when you respond to them.
They need to get the audit done. They have said they 'located' an SEC approved auditor, and the annual report is due at the end of this month. I hope to see that they are SEC filing by that time, or at the end of Q1 at the latest. The ticker change will come in time, it is a relatively simple process. The SEC provides available tickers and the company can choose from them, or can get their own unique ticker assigned if not already in use. JP3E will submit its request to the SEC and the result will eventually be known to us. I'm going to guess that it will be noted in the Q1 filing.
I think they are working on the audit. I don't know how far back they have to go, but spooz has been in existence since 2004.
No, they are paid for responses. That is ALL they want.
Of course it doesn't...It is intended to get you to respond. They are professional posters, not shareholders, and every response from someone is counted towards their pay checks.
Shareholders think them stupid, but they are simply cagey enough to get responses. You HELP them by responding.
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