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Flip, a bit dated, and from Motley Fool, but here is at least one answer:
https://www.fool.com/investing/2017/11/06/can-mutual-funds-own-stocks-under-5.aspx
I like your thinking…if your thinking “someone” may be taking a position. That, or short covering , or news leaked, seems to cover logical possibilities. Some big bites lately. Dunno.
Right.? $800,000 speaking fees to Janet Yellin, previously, hired Ben Bernanke as an advisor, lol. Does it end? Buying influence? But, I think many people will be watching.
Imo, little short hedgies …. that like to tag along (with shortie positions) with the big short HF hedgies… (relying on the big hedgies shark like bite) well, they face an existential threat that the biggies don’t (usually the bigs don’t). Little hedgies may be feeling some heat. Existential? Got some risk management decisions to make, maybe. Imo.
And, (answering myself…and TWIMC):
Once again, thanks for the bike path.
In somewhat relative terms a “small” act, but very wonderful, for many people. Not many could, or would, do that.
Nature. Health. Healthy energy. For the many. Beautiful sunrises. Thanks.
Ponder. Capitalism is not a zero sum game. All can grow together here.
Nature. Health. Healthy energy. New horizons for many people.
Dunno what was in my coffee. Just hoping for a better movie, for all, if.
And, if you are not interested in doing good for the world, but just for yourself(s), I put forward the same message:
The Genie is out of the bottle. You can’t put it back. Ponder. All, imo.
I read that KG does not like how he is portrayed in the new movie Dumb Money.
I wonder how he’ll like being portrayed in this movie, if.
Cancer… Harming innovation? Conscionable? Not. A good look?? No.
The genie is out of the bottle. You guys can’t put it back. You (he/they/them) can (buy) influence many people. You (he/they/them) can (buy) influence many outcomes.
THIS genie is out of the bottle. And you guys can’t put it back.
You can’t buy genie catchers. The Genie is out.
You can try to do (buy) some more harm. Not a good look.
Don’t whine when the movie comes out.
There is still time. Do some good in the world, for the world. All, imo.
Message in a bottle.
Ex, what color was Washington’s white horse?
LC, why this stock?
LC, hmmm…. 12,000 OTC stocks. WHY did you choose, as a non investor, non NWBO shareholder, THIS stock, to spend the better parts of your life, to warn retail from investing in? 24/7? For years? WHY NWBO? Feel free to speak for Ex, as you have referenced him many times (he won’t answer me).
LC, lol. Were your ears burning?
So, I asked chatGPT, ‘What is the difference between misinformation and disinformation?’
And Chat answered:
“Misinformation and disinformation both involve the spread of false or inaccurate information, but they differ in intent:
1. Misinformation: This refers to false or inaccurate information that is shared without the intention to deceive. It can be spread unintentionally or due to misunderstandings. Misinformation doesn't necessarily involve malicious intent.
2. Disinformation: Disinformation, on the other hand, is false or misleading information that is deliberately created and shared with the intent to deceive, manipulate, or influence others. It involves a malicious or deceptive motive.
In summary, the key distinction lies in the intention behind the information: misinformation is often unintentional, while disinformation is intentionally misleading.”
Intent. Which becomes evident after, numerous, clear and unambiguous clarifications are ignored. Intent.
The next question is WHY.
Morning, ex.
Arts and Entertainment. Interesting. Maybe Ben Mezrich is the right person for the NWBO story. Not sure what to call it (book/movie)…. Rapacious Money? Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered money? Smart Algos, Sociopathic Money? I guess we’ll have to see where things go from here. Looking forward to more Exposure.
Wow. Thanks, Bio.
I’m not a lawyer. So correct me. But, i gotta believe there will be a plaintiffs firm, or two, that will take this on for retail that were harmed. Imo. You’ll send in your positions (longs only, lol) and they’ll do the math. Thinking out loud.
Nice post. And what a great word, ‘rapacious’!! As in, as you wrote: “The Emperor will be revealed to have no clothes when the DOJ strips Citadel, et al, of their rapacious trading practices.”
Rapacious.
Funnily enough (or not) I read that as “DOJ STRIPES”, like, well, as in stripes. As in, rapacious, and illegal (if), trading practices. … stripes! Anyway, I think they long ago switched to khaki/beige. Best.
Either or, but their MM status (I say, tongue in cheek, ‘regulatory wiggle room’) enables all kinds of naked shorting possibilities…. Now made possible for the HF. How convenient. HF with MM status. Not to mention “spoofing”. But right. For whom? BP? KGHF? Let’s find out?
I asked ChatGPT whether Citadel is a HF or a MM (see answer below): The problem for us/advantage to them is that they are both! A HF, with MM “status”… which allows for regulatory wiggle room, for them, when they “trade”.
Anyway, from ChatGPT: “Citadel is a financial institution that operates as both a hedge fund and a market maker.
1. **Hedge Fund**: Citadel manages hedge funds, which are investment funds that pool capital from investors and use various strategies to generate returns. Citadel's hedge funds engage in a range of investment activities, including equities, fixed income, commodities, and more.
2. **Market Maker**: Citadel is also known for its market-making operations. As a market maker, it participates in financial markets by facilitating the buying and selling of financial instruments like stocks, options, and other securities. Market makers help provide liquidity to markets and play a crucial role in ensuring that buyers and sellers can transact efficiently.
Citadel's business model includes both of these aspects, and the company is one of the prominent players in the financial industry, with operations in various sectors of finance and investment.”
Hmmm. Not your typical MM, just providing liquidity to the market.
Yes. Today’s PR derailed the apparent short and distort plan of the day.
Yes. Indeed. But not WHY he’s made them. For years. Ex??? Care to answer yet?
LC, IC, et al… “It's simple.” Indeed.
I’ve noticed that “The Naysayers” (you know the ones) were/are all but absent during the run(s) up. No posts.
And, now, on the way down, they’re back posting again (even preceding the downward move). Oddly, coincidental.
So, WHO is actually involved in “pump n dump” and “short and distort”? Retail? The company? I think not.
Because, there is a trail. Trails.
The Donkey, in spite of spending too much time drinking in the Lord Hobo, knows the grass is actually green. The Tiger (especially tiger cubs easily blinded by the light off the savannah) can sometimes get confused by the Donkey. The Lion might want to apply for an iHub position.
Agreed as to this not being the investment thesis. Best, Hoff.
Either/or, Mike. Nobody cares. However, more saliently, as Eagle8 boiled down so eloquently, ….. “they must now buy real shares to cover their short positions”….
Enjoying a coffee, reading your posts, thinking out loud. …
Simple. Eloquent. …. “they must now buy real shares to cover their short positions…”
We shall see.
PQR, again, thanks. Do you expect a proposal for settlement, down the pike? (PFS!). I don’t see any other way, for them, but, what do I know? I’d guess it’d better be substantial, but again…(??). And even then, if there are combo deals in place, who needs the settlement…. Thoughts? Thanks.
Nice post, imo, fwiw. :)
Yup. ….”The fact that you guys waste so much time intentionally trying to confuse and middle discussions is quite interesting. If you have any connection to those who are alleged to be manipulating and spoofing this stock, any connection, at all, this will be very interesting.”
A prolific non investor here (lol, I have the posters name somewhere) recently suggested that he posts simply to ask ‘tough questions’.
Good luck (eye roll?) with that, explanation to peers, if. (Lol?)
PQR, I highly value and appreciate your input on this board. Thank you. “But there certainly could be sympathetic carryover.” Indeed. Best.
The defendant’s actions, as alleged, are so particularly reprehensible…. (a cancer treatment)….that punitive damages alone will be record breaking. All involved, any acts in furtherance, intentional, aware of any legal wrongdoing, by agreement or understanding…. Well…. Hard to see any jury showing any mercy, to anyone so involved, civil or criminal. Your average jury would be aghast, disgusted, and ultimately vengeful to the core, upon learning of (yet alleged) the machinations to destroy this company. For, money? Lol. Good luck, defendants, and those who oblige any criminal acts, if.
LC, really? What do you mean?
LC, thanks in advance. I ask because there is a value your experience! Imo.
LC, why? (I’m hot on the trail, as you say, as to why you spend so much of your time dispensing your personal knowledge and observations , in the stock you do not own and would not buy, and are not short, on the MB, as you say, 24/7? Why? Help me understand your motives?
LC??? NWBO?? Will you be around this weekend to dispense free advice to those who own the stock??
LC! Lol. Will you be researching NWBO, and dispensing investment advice to NWBO shareholders, over the long weekend?
Poor LC. Maybe you’re hearing voices? … Well, I’m sure somebody does, know.
Oh, and speaking (earlier) of Ronin. Right. They went belly up. One of their short positions got out of control. VIX, I guess. It’s like, addictive, shorting….you win, often, until you lose, big. It was ugly. Who took over their failed positions (in a sort of bail out, I guess)? Right. Citadel.
LC, in your opinion, is there anyone big enough to bail out Citadel, if?
LC, no reply to number 9? Oh, btw, that reminds me, why do you “post” here again?
I heart you BB. Best.
Lol. That’s the best you have, EX?
Ah. Sarcasm. I had to look it up. Yes. On the trail.