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So this has been manipulated from 3.50 to 1.05 and maybe lower.
Crazy question here. Do people realize how the market works. When buying is higher than selling it makes the stock go up. So if I were new and read these messages I would think wmih has gone up from 1 to 3.50 with all the so called funds buying. But it's weird it's gone down. Sellin has over powered buying
We don't talk about the funds who sold or who is selling on this board. The fact is that the stock went from 3.50 to 1.05 on no selling. How I have no clue. But let's enjoy all these new posts on all these new funds and old funds adding but yet the stop is near 52 wk low. Can I get a high five
Nice. I see everyone posting all these funds buying and adding. High fives for everyone!!! So no funds sold. Hmm that's weird. So if no funds sold, why is wmih near its 52 wk low and who's selling.
who in there right mind is selling this gold mine, I mean its like walking down the sidewalk and finding yesterdays powerball ticket and just throwing it in the garbage.. we all know were smart, the funds are smart so who is selling, is it mom and pop retail? do people have the ticker in wrong?
I see ONE fund added... a million shares.. guys they are scarfing up us scared retail shares, perhaps even manipulating this lower with 100 share sells... these guys are professionals, why else would they be in charge of large funds, these guys really know what there doing, even though most of us are underwater we are going to be rewarded big, just hold your nose and buy these panic dips.. all aboard the wmih train, if it takes another 5 yrs for a deal and we dip to .40, I dont care im a patient long term investor
its probably manipulation... funds want in..
but did they sell... from what i remember they sold half... you think no funds are selling... lol.. you might have some of the hardcore longs fooled... if HF arent selling, who is, because stocks just magically do not go from 4 to 1 with funds buying and no one selling.. a stock lesson, its about supply and demand, too many shares over supplying the buying
lmao, so this has been going on since 3.50 its always manipulation posts when a stock goes down big... ya think it has to do with 4 yrs of waiting for the so called big deal with massive NOLs that still hasnt happened, when the deal was rumored last yr and fell thru the MMs manipulated the price down to 1.05 lol not the frustrated funds and retail
Anyone who knows stock charts knows this is in a downtrend, I see many 52 wk lows coming... the bid is thinning look for 1.05 today.. than well see the posts that the 147 funds are smart and were all dumb because there funds and know more than us dumb retail
so you consider appaloosa and david tepper a major fund?? Ive got news for ya. a stock doesnt go from 4 to 1 with no selling.. its supply and demand, the supply has overtaken demand, so maybe all the funds in the stock universe are in wmih so no one is left to buy
At the end of 3/31/2017 reporting period, 47 institutional holders increased their position in WMIH Corp. (NASDAQ:WMIH) by some 8,934,736 shares, 45 decreased positions by 4,659,564 and 54 held positions by 69,408,665. That puts total institutional holdings at 83,002,965 shares, according to SEC filings. The stock grabbed 16 new institutional investments totaling 3,047,484 shares while 17 institutional investors sold out their entire positions totaling 1,620,909 shares.
you keep saying no one sold shares in these smart funds... i disagree.. i think you think you know everything or you want people to think no funds sold
im betting these 147 funds you speak of non stop are either furious since most are sitting on 2x loses are not in the know since most bought 2x higher
funny story here....... my friend and I were chatting about the market, he was down in the dumps because he sat out this whole rally since November thinking the trump bump would fade.. I said it could be alot worse, you could be long wmih... he laughed, I didnt because Im long wmih
so your saying if a stock has a high amount of funds in them than regardless if the funds are down 50% there smart and its a no brainer investment.. so were there any funds involved in lehman bros and bear stearns or did they sell out before the big crash because if there involved they have to know something
it was about a 100k hit on da bid so someone sold, obviously not a fund. them guys are too smart to sell
Luckily for us longs 147 smart funds are in this stock. If not we might be at .25. For a stock near its 52 wk low I can't believe how people are saying these so called funds are Lol. Smart
Guys. Funds are buying. A poster said so on yahoo message board. I'm not that worried even though the price should go up on buying. My solution one might ask. It's simple I just avoid looking at my trading acct.
truth is no one on these message boards knows anything about whats going on.. we can speculate and it makes us feel better to find posts that fit our bias and re inforces us to either buy or sell
my only question to management would be.................... when is the reverse split.. on the cc question and answer, the ceo said they didnt pay too much attention to stock price.. ok
everyone on here is shaking their head wondering what is happening... truth is no one here has a clue.. plain and simple.. we can all guess on what is going on and why the price went from 2.50 to 1.00, we can argue many investors are frustrated that the anticipated deal hasn't happened so some bailed...so think everything is going by plan..from what I heard on the webcast yesterday, management wants a deal done, kkr wants a deal done... maybe kkr pushed to have 2 more of their guys on the board to get this thing moving along.. there are some big funds in the preferreds that want a deal done since they are currently out of the money, deal done equals conversion at 1.75 with current share price 1.30.. I think these big funds reached out to wmih and voiced there concerns about the falling share price with nothing heard from management, hence the CC.. there was a question on the call from an investor who asked about the price being low 1.00 and the possibility of possible delisting if pps trades sub 1.00 and being kicked out of a few of the indexes.. the ceo made it seem like management does not even pay attention to the stock price only on getting deal done.. I think management is trying to make a deal that is fair, not to overpay, seems like since the market is really up the companies might be valued a more so its harder to make a deal... I think overall everyone wants a deal but its hard to fathom if frustration is what pushed this price to 1.00 making it a buy of a lifetime or if there is more that the big boys know and most have been selling.
Now we know why the big boys have been selling since 2.50 some posters on here and you know who you are have been saying... funds are buying, dont sweat it... the boys sold their shares to the dumb retail who was drinking wmih kool aid all along... im not happy with management getting free shares when they have accomplished nothing
means nothing... some newbie read the news and thought easy money... look at it today at the open 20k shares traded.. nothing to see and im sure the cc webcast will have nothing and this tanks to .80
lol, doesnt matter if a stock is listed on the dow, naz, amex, otc, pink, blue whatever exchange, when she goes from 2.50 to 1.05 it lost
You spoke to soon... I love how zeke and a handful of posters been saying since 2.50 that funds are heavily invested and buying every dip and here we sit at 1.10... in my stocks 101 class the first lesson was supply and demand, more buyers means higher prices, more sellers lower prices... so if these big funds are buying who is doin the selling to drive the price this low.. thats my question to those on here who keep resorting to the funds.. I looked at the funds involved, some sold out some added and some initiated new postions
Lol. This chart doesn't add up. Lol.
I'm seeing a falling wedge with 2 outcomes. Either it breaks up. As of now 1.60 is the level I would say bottom could be in if cleared. I also see 1.10 /15 next few days. To me a stock doesn't just fall 50% for no reason
What a mess. Seems like no one knows what's going on hence I guess the stock reflects it.
Dry interesting onco. Let's see what kkr does
Please explain?
Oh ok. Thanks. Thought I read on yahoo message board a poster said 12/23. Must be a mid informed investor.
Thanks fwh, I thought I read tax loss selling ended on 12/23 from what someone posted. Hopefully the manipulation and tax loss selling ends soon.
Please explain rebalancing for us new guys. Also what happens if wmih doesn't go up in January. Thank you for answer
Like what. lol. Down 50% since sept. How bout some insider buys or better yet a merger
When the big investors get the yr end report of there holding and see there down 50% plus there not gonna be happy. Let's wait to see next 13 f to see who held and who sold or bought
So explain who is dumping shares. Look at a weekly chart and see for yourself. Some serious selling. Down 50% since sept
Honestly we can bs one another till cows come home and speculate on the whole pot of soup but the truth is the stock lost half of its value and the largest holder from what I seen sold 1/2 of his stake.
Green, simple question. I tend to agree with your post. I als seen Appaloosa sold 1/2 of there position. So my question, if this seems this simple who is selling? Some say tax loss, manipulation which are in my opinion bogus. So why did price of wmih drop 50% since sept.