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I totally agree, there is just no telling some individuals it's like they are living in a dream world, believing in something someone has stated, does not make it true, anyone can make a statement for a PR, and as we have seen on several occasions these amount to absolute garbage, not worth the paper they were written on. Many individuals have been and continue to be sucked into this fraudulent company fraud, there is no money coming, WAKE-UP PEOPLE.
Do you not think this is an ALL to familiar line with this PR, sounds like a bit of deja-vu ask anyone same tune just a different day, month year, oh yes it will all fall over again after the first hurdle, I have the t-shirt to prove it.
LIES LIES LIES, WHAT A LOAD OF MORE BS AND ALL YOU GULLIBLE PEOPLE ARE STILL FALLING FOR THIS, JUST WHEN WILL YOU ALL LEARN THAT ALL OF US HAVE BEEN SWINDLED BY KPAY, THERE IS NO MONEY COMING PERIOD, SO IF YOU ALL WANT TO LIVE IN A FOOLS PARADISE GO AHEAD AND KNOCK YOURSELF OUT, I JUST CANNOT BELIEVE THAT PEOPLE ARE OF THE IMPRESSION THAT AFTER NEARLY ONE YEAR, THAT YOU STILL BELIEVE THAT THE GLASS IS STILL HALF FULL, WELL LET ME TELL YOU, IT WAS NEVER HALF FULL, YOU ALL NEED TO ACCEPT THE FACT THAT THIS COMPANY IS A TOTALLY FRAUDULENT COMPANY AND THAT NG EDWIN IS THE BIGGEST BRAZEN FRAUDSTER OF THEM ALL. WE ARE ALL JUST GOING TO WIPE OUR MOUTH AND MOVE ON, OR YOU CAN JUST CARRY ON KIDDING YOURSELF!!
ALL US INVESTORS HAVE BEEN SWINDLED DUPED & DEFRAUDED BIG TIME, AND NEED TO CONSIDER THAT WE WILL NEVER SEE OUR INVESTMENT AGAIN, AS THERE IS NO MONIES BEING PUT FORWARD TO THIS C0N ARTIST NG EDWIN AND HIS COMPANY KPAY, I THINK THE SOONER INDIVIDUALS REALISE THIS THE BETTER, THIS IS JUST LIES UPON LIES, UPON MORE LIES, THIS GUY IS A REAL CON MERCHANT PERIOD.
People are just hoping for the best, but I believe this company and Edwin are just absolute scammers and that there is no money coming, who in there right mind seeing what property fraud this edwin has bee involved in, would then part with $200,000.000 with the CEO’s track record INVOLVED IN MAJOR FRAUD, would you part with 200,000,000 if you had it, after completing DD, No I did not think so. So yes this company KPAY are just absolutely defrauding company.
Does the SEC even investigate otc companies? Edwin Ng is lying over and over again. I did quite a bit of investigation into kpay and many things didn't add up.
First, it's really strange that Ng is obsessed with getting a $200 million dollar loan. A company of this size would be lucky to get a $5 million dollar loan. Also, I read where Ng bought around 35,000 shares of kpay awhile back for around $1.80. Maybe that's why he wants to sell warrants to buy kpay for $1.85.
It would be interesting to hear from Indonesians who have used kpay, but the few who have posted here had very negative things to say about the company.
Go to Seeking alpha for kpay's recent filings. In the last quarter, their revenue was $167,000 and their losses were $4,273,000. In the last six months, they've lost over $12,000,000.
Do you really think someone's going to loan them money with those numbers? Go check for yourself.
So if the funds have been where are they? Are they cutting down trees to make the pulp for making the paper for the money, because as I seem to remember we have been waiting a considerable amount of time and what we have is NOTHING, only next week, next week, next month, and so on, my view on this is we have ALL BEEN DEFRAUDED by KPAY, Mark my words.
Can anyone on this site point to something CONCLUSIVE which that us investors can feel at ease with, because we all know that KPAY have been getting these funds for the last 7 months, I would be grateful.
You know there is a LOT of truth in what you say, but the fact is investors, when they are loosing a lot of money really do not want to hear things that may well be the truth, it's just human nature, BUT the facts are there if you just want to open your eyes, because at the moment, I am resided to the fact that I may never see my investment ever again. So yes I believe you are RIGHT about your analysis
of KPAY, but people just want to give them more excuses, and do not want to except the inevitability of what is about to transpire. Me I am just and have moved on to the next investment opportunity.
I sympathize with you and a whole lot of other investors who are in the same boat, I have had $27k wiped off the value of KPAY share's and the only thing we can do is sit here and watch them dissipate in front of us because we are to far in deep, and yes we knew what the risks were, but if we were given the correct information, at the time and not feed misleading information and in my eyes, lied to, things may have been different, so now I really do hope that Ng goes to prison for FRAUD.
SAME CRAP JUST A DIFFERENT DAY, AND ON & ON THIS THEATRICS, SICK AND TIRED OF IT, NO GOOD SCAMMERS.
SAME OLD, SAME OLD, JUST THE SAME AS USUAL UP ONE MINUTE THEN DOWN THE NEXT, AND WHEN ITS UP PEOPLE START TO SURMISE AS TO WHAT THEY PERCEIVE IS GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT THIS IS PURE SUPPOSITION, WE NEED FUNDS NOTHING MORE AND NOTHING LESS. AND WHEN IT IS DOWN, IT IS ALL QUITE ON THE WESTERN FRONT, EVERY DAY THIS GOES ON, IT STINKS MORE AND MORE OF A SCAM, FRAUD CALL IT WHAT YOU LIKE, AND WHEN THIS GOES INTO NEEK WEEK WHAT THEN, I SUPPOSE PEOPLE WILL JUST MAKE UP SOME MORE EXCUSES FOR KPAY, THIS HAS FRAUD WRITTEN ALL OVER IT, SERIOUSLY WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE!!!
THERE IS A LOT OF TRUTH IN WHAT SNAKESS HAS WRITTEN BUT IT WOULD APPEAR INDIVIDUALS DO NOT WANT TO HEAR THIS, WHEN IN ACTUAL FACT WHAT YOU SAY IS VERY TRUE, JUST HOW LONG CAN A COMPANY COME OUT WITH THE SAME EXCUSE WEEK AFTER WEEK AFTER WEEK AFTER WEEK AFTER.......YOU GET THE PICTURE, WHICH BANK IS THE MONEY COMING FROM???? SOME TIN POT REPUBLIC IN TIMBUC TWO, EVEN IF IT WAS, I AM VERY SURE THEY WOULD HAVE HAD THE FUNDS BY NOW. THIS IS ACTUALLY BULLSH!T, AND NOTHING MORE, WE HAVE BEEN WELL AND TRULY TURNED OVER, AND WE WILL PROBABLY BE WAITING ANOTHER SIX MONTHS DOWN THE LINE AND THE SAME PEOPLE WILL BE SAYING IT SHOULD BE NEXT WEEK, OR MAYBE THE WEEK AFTER !!!
So this email is supposed to be the Holy Grail, just because he sent it, and we are just over six months down the line and not a Dollar to be seen with all the promises to-boot, but that’s ok because what’s his name has sent out an email, forgive me if I lack the enthusiasm you have, because I now believe this is a SCAM COMPANY and we have all been sucked into this sham company. Oh maybe it MIGHT BE TOMORROW OR MAYBE WE SHOULD KEEP DREAMING, I think it is a better option.
Just because some guy brings out a statement, with no verification only stating that they did receive the $100 million, if you know that shareholders are starting to question, you would SHOW US THE MONEY, this is turning out to be theatrical in ever sense of the word, it’s going to be next week, and the week after and so forth and on & on & on, well to me now this has SCAM ALL OVER IT, you know what if those market makers want to, i am now going to Short this company, because is is definitely not worth buying any more of this stock that’s for sure, nothing but a SCAMING COMPANY.
Yes it looks as sure as pigs CAN fly......NOT!!!
So the last six months, has that funding been close too?
THERE MUST BE A BIT OF DEJA VU HERE, BECAUSE I AM SURE I HAVE HEARD THIS SEVERAL TIMES WITHIN THE LAST SIX MONTHS, RE: YES THE FUNDS WILL BE THIS WEEK, THEY WILL BE NEXT WEEK, OH NO THEY WILL BE THE WEEK AFTER NEXT, THIS IS ALL SUPERSTITION, AS NO ONE HAS CONCRETE PROOF!!!
AFTER ALL THAT HAS GONE ON AFTER SO MUCH BLAR BLAR BLAR HOW DO WE KNOW AS SHARE HOLDERS, THAT WE ARE ALL IN ONE BIG SCAM. EVERYONE ON THIS MESSAGE BOARD IS QUITE ENTITLED TO THEIR ON OPINION, AND MINE ARE THAT I DO NOT INTEND TO PURCHASE ANY MORE KPAY SHARES BECAUSE WHAT IF IT IS JUST A DELAYING TACTIC, WHO CAN REALLY KNOW? ONLY THE PEOPLE AT THE TOP, YES I KNOW PEOPLE HAVE RECEIVED PERSONAL EMAILS, BUT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT WHAT DOES IT ACTUALLY PROVE ? BECAUSE AS INVESTORS AND I CAN IMAGINE THERE A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE ME WHO HAVE A FAIR FEW DOLLARS RIDDING ON KPAY AND WHO REALLY WANT TO BELIEVE, BUT AS EVERYTHING ELSE IN LIFE, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE GOOD AND THE BAD. NO GOOD JUST DISMISSING SOMETHING JUST BECAUSE YOU DO NOT LIKE THE SOUND OR LOOK OF IT!!. SO WHAT HAPPENS IF AFTER ALL THIS TO-ING & FRO-ING IT TURNS OUT THAT WE HAVE BEEN WELL AND TRULY HAD OVER, I WILL HAVE TO JUST WIPE MY MOUTH, BECAUSE WHAT ELSE CAN I DO? I AM JUST SAYING YOU HAVE TO TAKE EVERYTHING WITH A PINCH OF SALT, BELIEVE ME IF I AM PROVEN WRONG AND THIS FUNDING DOES COME THROUGH, OBVIOUSLY I WILL BE THE HAPPIEST INDIVIDUAL AROUND, SO ON THAT NOTE I WILL JUST SAY ONE THING, THAT MAYBE THERE COULD BE SOME TRUTH IN WHAT THE SCEPTICS ARE SAYING ON THIS MESSAGE BOARD, WE SHALL JUST HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE. BUT AS THE SAYING GOES, IF THERE IS ANY DOUBT, THERES NO DOUBT.
I do hope we are ALL not just kept hanging for another three months and to be feed again with empty promises, I hope we are not being just strung along, I mean who knows what is actually happening behind the scenes, it just appears to be one excuse after the other, I mean another day, another statement, Get this sorted already, we can’t keep going on with this month in month ANOTHER STATEMENT & another interview, then another statement.
As much as I truly welcome any positive new, what we are really waiting for is concrete positive funding, because as you know talk is cheap, and as you know, the price will no doubt go up a little then come back down again, what is needed is funding to send this BABY to the moon nonstop, it’s what us Longs have been waiting for !!.
I am afraid to state the obvious, I had 15K when I purchased, now it’s worth about 1.2K and there is no one to buy them, these will soon be at 0.0001, all this bs about needing more paperwork is just utter nonsense, the fact of the matter is, is that we were mislead by the Wahahna group statement, it does now appear to me to be a case of, If there is any doubt, then there is no doubt, worthless stock absolute worthless, I may as well forget about them, just have to move on to the next stock. Somebody somewhere is making money on this fiasco, but it is certainly not us shareholders.
Hi, what do you mean by, 5th January?
That is the million dollar question!! Myself, I do not think there will be any news today, I do think it will be the middle of the week when we investors get some news, but I feel until that news this stock is going to drop to say .12 to .10 cents and maybe that will be the time KPAY makes an announcement that they are going ahead with their share Buyback. ONLY TIME WILL TELL.
The fact that 2+2 does not equal 4, the sums at the moment just do not add up, or is it that u just do not want to fund anything wrong? Look and you will find!.
Have you heard of "ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE" just because there are 70 employees, means it is all above board and legitimate, it may just be part of an elaborate scam, but that is my opinion, &
I am entitled to my opinion, just as you are to your opinion, but one thing is sure, as sure as Black is Black, the truth will come out in the END.
It appears that fabrication of the truth has stared to rear its ugly head on the part of KPAY, As the facts speak for them self.
No one said you should be scared, just have an open mind to information that presents itself, If I were just a schmo who did not have a sizeable investment in KPAY, and was just in this to spread fear so I could short KPAY, but that is not the case, so until I start to see real proof that this is not some drawn -out protracted SCAM, I will for now believe the latter.
What is there to hate about, the guy Is raising some very valid questions and more so in his previous posts, and as I have a considerable amount of $ invested in KPAY, but I am beginning to believe that I may have been sucked in to this well orchestrated SCAM, unless it can be proved wrong by future events actually happening, or is it a case of waving goodbye to my investment, ONLY TIME WILL TELL.
Or you could be just living in denial, what I am pointing out is, keep an open mind!
Very true observation, What did the US Authorities find regarding KPAY & Wahana Group, and now that proceedings are now happening in surroundings quiet different to our own, I am stating that we may have been credulous. And what I am saying is things are starting to stack up.
THIS IS WHAT I CALL FACTS STARING YOU IN THE FACE, BUT I DO HOPE THAT I AM WRONG, BUT THERE ARE TO MANY VARIABLES THAT HAVE SOWN IN THE SEED OF DOUBT.
I could not AGREE with you more, there appears to be so much BS around this stock at the moment and yes there are people who will just dismiss what is right in front of them, but how long can they continue to do this, but as it is I am all-in make or break.
WE SHALL SEE WHAT TRANSPIRES AS ALL WILL BE REVEALED IN DUE COURSE!!
Yes, there is risk in every investment I agree, but with facts to hand and the elements of KPAY as they keep moving the goal posts further back on every occasion since the announcement of the 200 Million, YOU HAVE TO WONDER, you cannot keep dismissing what is staring you in the FACE.
Yes, there is risk in every investment I agree, but with facts to hand and the elements of KPAY as they keep moving the goal posts further back on every occasion since the announcement of the 200 Million, YOU HAVE TO WONDER, you cannot keep dismissing what is staring you in the FACE.
Yes, but not to be overlooked is 236T586 input to this MB, FACT!
As I was wondering “IF THERE IS ANY DOUBT, THERE IS NO DOUBT” And I have $15 K in this!
So what are everyone views on this, are we as investors being scammed? As I am of the opinion that maybe we are just trying to block out that it could be a scam, because I really do want this to succeed, but there could be something not right, any thoughts on this?
So in your opinion, do you think us as investors are being "lead down the garden path" even after all what is supposed to be happening?