was thisnot what you posted in its entirety on allstocks? it is posted there on page 44 for the record. how exactly did i take it out of context if that is your entire post. the shame about this message board bs is that someone cant even ask an honest question of others opinions without being alienated by a bunch of ignorant people. i dont think doc is ignorant judging by some of his other posts, but the majority of others that are on here definitely dont belong in investing, way too moronic. especially at allstocks, even after some of the other posters came on there after me and corroborated the facts from my questions they still were acting like jerks

thanks for the honest reply, it seems that is hard to get around these message boards. do you see frank as capable of marketing and selling a multi billion dollar company, i know he sold the shopping net and the movie channel, but those were smaller deals and required less finesse. just an honest question and would appreciate any enlightenment you can give me

from your posts you seem to have a high opinion of frank. this is an issue i am trying to find out more about for my investment purposes. you mention in one of your posts that frank has called you twice and you have been following him for a while. i have a good amount of money invested in qbid and i see it as a very good investment right now, iam just trying to figure out how far frank can get us as the head honcho and figure out what my exit point should be. i like to know a lot about the management of the companys that i put money into and since a lot of the things that seem to be going on as far as the investment are negative (dillution as one) i would like to hear some things from someone who might know as to what kind of a guy we have that is going to deliver us from the place we are in at the moment with our investment. thanks for any honest response

can anyone tell me how to put these couple of ignorant people on ignore? they cant be much older than twenty if their minds are this small

are you saying that the other people on here that everyone is jocking right now because they went to the meeting are not posting factual information? sounds like it

his is the best i can do, it is from last night on allstocks, i copied and pasted it:




Meeting With Frank, Lobo, Doctoall, and 1 other.

"Q" is being built to sell, not right now but most likely within the next 2-3 years. Frank stated that going price for a full network (which we now are) is in a range of 3-5 Billion and anywhere up to 10 or more Billion. Frank did say as an example "Say Time Warner were to buy us out"

If the "Q" were to be sold Frank stated that you can be sure that he would no longer be there as the new company would usually purge the old management.

Frank said that this would allow him to then start the kind of network that he has been avoiding. You can be sure that he is talking about the hard stuff.

"Q" is one of it's kind as we are a live on the spot network and not just broadcasting gay movies, so we are very much envied at this point.

Carriers: We will be getting news of new carriers over the next 60 days and there is no doubt that we will be in 160 markets come the Gay Games in 2006. They have general contract with RCN, COX and Time Warner, however it is up to the local areas to add or drop programming, he did say that sometimes they can only add twice a year.

He was very strong in his statement of having a Sat company soon although he would not confirm Dish or Direct, it sounded more like Dish to me as Direct has Logo.

NO REVERSE SPLIT. There will be no reverse split as long as he is in control.

Buybacks: No planned buy backs at this point, they are using the money of the private investors to fund the company, he stated that these investors are giving upward to $200,000.00 each per month to the operating of the company. He would not disclose the names of the private investors other tha he is one of them.

read some of his posts earlier today on allstocks, were you inthe meeting where someone tried to film frank and was told not to, or were you in another meeting?

ignorance must be bliss, you must be a rookie to any type of solid investing where you actually take a look at a company's management. i admit to being a rookie on these message boards, am i supposed to only talk about the good side of a stock( which everyone already knows by the way ) and throw out bs estimates of the stock being at 5$ by december? i am not bashing the stock, why dont you verify my posts by doing the only dd you must know how to do and read through some of the other peoples posts instead of verbally assaulting me you creep. id love to meet some of you sometime in person and then we could see who is bs and who isnt. you are very quick to jump on me when all i am doing is asking questions, what is the purpose of these message boards if not to raise some conjecture, everything i am saying is backed in other peoples posts either here or on allstocks.

i am getting that from a post by doctoall on allstocks, take a look for yourself at his posts, one of the earlier ones today referred to frank stating that he would like to sel this network and get into the kind of network that he really wanted, which doc read into as being porn. just looking for more insight into this, thank you

thats a valid point, i just wanted some ideas on why he would have wanted to mix his personal life in with his business, especially since it seemed that his boyfriend did not act in a very proffessional manner as would be expected from someone sitting next to the ceo of a future multi billion dollar meeting that shareholders are attending. thanks for the reply though, i hadnt looked at it from that perspective.

bill h, what was your take on frank now that you have met him? it seems that you were in the last meeting with him where he had tracy in on it, did it seem like he got slightly upset when someone tried to videotape the meeting?

as doctoall said in one of his posts, frank mentioned that he was hoping to sell qbid and have enough money to start the network that he really wants to have, which he insinuated was a hardcore gay porn channel. now half of the confidence that i had in him to run this channel was based on it being his dream channel and his passion. this statement of him doing this so that he can bankroll his his real dream channel is unsettling. i have only seen note of this in one post so it is far from being documented, but this is for the purpose of conjecture so im sure no one will mind me bringing it up, i would just like some thoughts from others on this

If it was no ones business who tracy was then i think maybe he should not have brought his lover into a meeting that was meant for shareholders. His lovers rude behavior could easily have turned off some bigger fish looking to invest a little more than 1 or 2k. it is an indication of proffessionalism. a lot of people base 100% of their investment decisions on the upper level management of companies and do not go wrong doing it. these are the types of character flaws that you look for, a ceo mixing too much of his personal life with business. Like I said, if it was no ones business, why bring him in front of everybody and speak about your private relationships in public?

Were there any questions written that inquired about the buybacks and where we stand on them?

is echostar 9 the dish network?

who met frank in person? he doesnt come off well in his interviews. he stutters and doesnt have his facts together. does he come off better in person and does he seem like he has qualities that redeem his oafishness in public?